PeterHamm

After he openly admitted he wasn't trying to get either unit to sound its best I realized it was a fool's errand to pay much attention. If you dial in the same amp model (say, the Twin) on each unit with the same settings, they'll sound different. Different modeling. Look, here's what I've learned, having the HD 500 from day 1 and Helix Rack since Dec 2015. Your audience can't tell the difference if you really know what you're doing when you dial it in. You can. Are you willing to pay for that? Only you can decide. If not, and all the features of HD 500 are enough, imho, it's going to be a viable unit for years and years. Also, he is right in the fat that features and flexibility and workflow are also really important.

To piggy back on that. Control is merely a remote control. Do not expect that it will ever connect to LT. There's no provision in the hardware of either. It may however be possible to make it work with Native.

But I use it live... with NO problems whatsoever... and I'm kinda picky when it comes to tuning. 30 seconds? I'm picky enough that I can only tweak my tuning in 30 seconds. No matter what tuner I use, I allow myself a good solid 2 minutes before I start.

I'm virtually always using it in a verb-ey pad underneath or with other things, so the constant vibrato is always a help to the way I do things. But yes, if I was using it straight, it would probably get kinda old fast.

B) very cool indeed.

Funny, I was recording today, and when I used a clip on tuner that works GREAT for me when I use it live with my acoustic, something sounded "off". I retuned with the Helix tuner and everything sounded better together. Ya can't win for losing'...

I use return 1 for my acoustic signal and FX 3 and 4 for mel9 and POG 2

Roland guitar synth would be ideal for u

I am reasonably sure this will not solve the "problem". Only using Snapshots will.

Same for me...

This fact might be key. The tuner is more accurate, perhaps, than the string... Seriously... I think it is the granularity and accuracy of the tuner which makes it a GOOD tuner that is throwing some of you. Either that or you're all tuning DOWN to the note... or something'... btw, are we talking new strings? Because old dead strings are really tough to tune anyway.

Don't sweat it. The only dumb question is the one that isn't asked. Did you get it sorted/=? Hint: 1024 IR probably sound just fine in the mix if you find yourself hitting the CPU wall.

Bundle exports are entirely worthless.

It can do it in snapshot mode. It will never do it in patch mode. Just like Axe never will. Nobody would pay an extra grand to have this feature and latency issues that come with it. They know this.

Most of the amps I use, I need to mess with the bias a bit to get them just right. Turn Hum all the way down while I'm at it, and I sometimes mess with Sag.

I never thought I'd say this. "I miss Monkey"...

Is this in the editor? It sounds like what happens when you upgrade the firmware but you're using an old editor.

Just use a different bank for your presets and you won't easily accidentally over-write them.

Learn to get the most out of snapshots and you won't need this impossible feature.

I most certainly don't want to insult anyone... but are some of ya just doing it wrong? I find it weird that I have zero problems with 5 different instruments and some of y'all can't get your guitars in tune at all with it...

Well, the tuner IS stable... (runs and hides...) B)

Reading between the lines... I'd like to offer this: if you are asking a tuner in a multi-function box like Helix to be preferable to standalone devices that were made solely to tune and with no other function, you are asking too much. So if the real question is "Will the Helix tuner ever be as good as or better than a Turbo Tuner or StroboStomp" not only is the answer yes, but the answer is "Yes, and PLEASE Line 6 don't sink a bunch of development time into this... model new amps and FX instead..."

I guarantee you that a LOT of the pros who use this live would NOT EVEN CONSIDER it if it had such a feature, though. That is anathema to live use. Always want an ALWAYS ON box for that.

Nope. you DO NOT want that in a piece of gear designed to be used for live performance on stage... not imho anyhow.

At a reasonable price, my Sennheiser HD 380s sound GREAT with Helix. But even better, most of the time, is my Share 215 IEMs. IEMs work differently than standard headphones, and with my Shures I can actually tweak for stage use and it works. I can't do that with any conventional headphones.