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I use the SPDIF out of my HD500 into a USB sound card SPDIF. That way I can select dry out if I want to. I prefer adding effects after I record often, using the POD's effects only to hear something going in. I have used USB as well, but for me it works better this way.

Google has more cats to herd. Apple is the gated community after all and until 3 years ago, Appleheads always had Steve Jobs to do their thinking for them. It's a brave new world.

OK, where the lollipop is the "sarcasm" button....what I said was: "Exept 20% more processing power and switches that actually might not break off one day. But other than that, yeah they're twins." So, when I said they were twins, I was being sarcastic because just before that I said they had significant processing power differences and different footswitches. Be more concerned for yourself. I'm fine.

Yeah, I can see that myself although I have rarely hit the DSP limit and don't gig so my buttons survive their daily pressures (see what I did there lol). My main point is that the HD500 and HD500x are most decidedly NOT the same box.

I'm not trying to be beligerant here, but what part of 20% more processing power on the HD500x than is available on the HD500 is so hard to understand? They are most certainly NOT the same unit as the underlying microprocessor is different. That's like saying an i5 and i3 Intel CPU are the same because they are both in a laptop.

Exept 20% more processing power and switches that actually might not break off one day. But other than that, yeah they're twins.

My quote: ".Nothing against you (or anyone) mind you, but my point is chasing the digital dragon will always leave one unsatisfied I believe, unless you like the kool-aid as is." Is English your second language by chance, because it's clear there that I said "I BELIEVE" and "NOTHING AGAINST HIM (OR ANYONE)" which pretty much puts it in the realm of MY OPINION WITH ZERO MALICE. Also, by saying "LIKING THE KOOL-AID AS IS" I am implying that if you like what you buy and expect nothing better then you are NOT chasing the dragon. Sheesh. So other than that, I agree with you on most of the rest. This IS a good forum and BTW, I haven't posted here in months until today. And if you read the whole conversation, you'll see I said the same thing aabout expecting analog gear makers to provide anyone updates. That idea is ridiculous, no doubt. I don't think you're delusional at all. It sounds like you've found exactly what you want and it makes you happy, other than talking about it I guess. Why the angst? It is a discussion, not a witch hunt and as I said -- I still use my Line6 gear practically every day -- I've just adjusted my own expectations of it based on my own personal world view on the matter.

Actually, they did exactly that when they replaced the HD500 with the HD500x that had a better processor which gave more processing power, sturdier footswitches that apparently break less often and substantial visual enhancements like LED lit switches and a more readable font on the unit. For the same money that others paid for, well not all that.

I did OK on sales, but the longer it sits in the pile the harder it is to flip. Yeah, that's why I will keep my JTV59 and HD500 -- the ability to try new things and combinations like a Sitar through a Marshall SL with a Supro 6x9 cab with an Echorec just because lol. THAT part is very cool and can be a hell of a distration when I ought to be practicing. I like getting new stuff too...

What's even funnier is why you would care what I said to someone else. I didn't say he was a victim, you did. And look around my friend, this "dead horse" gets debated hammer and tongs accross the webosphere every single day. Or does my opinion make your enjoyment of your gear less somehow? I am neither audibly challenged nor delusional...I see things for what they are and if you can't deal with that, I am truly sorry. Lastly, I didn't say I was done with my Line 6 gear -- I use it all the time. What I said, or was trying to say is that buying digital gear in an ongoing effort for many people and that if the OP was happy with the "Dream Rig" he wouldn't really care what (if anything) Line 6 did ever again. So lighten up and enjoy the discussion which is all this is, as opposed to the personal afront you seem to think it is.

Unless Yamaha (the huge International conglomerate megacorp) one day does some math and decides that liquidating/absorbing Line6 assets into their own modelling efforts would be a better bet than not doing that. I'm not saying it ever will, but don't for a second think it CAN'T happen either. Your point about "getting as much love as he purchased" is well taken and spot on, and the same could always be said of analog gear for decades. I never expected Fender to provide "continuous product updates" on anything. Ever. Why would they? Line6 themselves are partly to blame for this phenomenae by using the product update as part of the marketing though, IMHO. Don't get me wrong here, I have no axe to grind with Line 6 and the gear I have is exactly what I expected it to be. Their build quality is spotty at times, but since it was never designed to be around in 50 years, that isn't surprising to me.

You know Phil, here's the thing....people state (online and in person to me anyway) many times that they buy digital gear because it is cheaper and easier than simply acquiring the amps and effects they really want...would you agree you've heard that a bazillion times yourself? But I ask, is it cheaper or easier to continually rebuy the latest incarnation of digital wizardry while the last wonderful product you are leaving behind either sits there unused (in a pile) or you sell it for pennies on the dollar? By contrast, I have a 1973 Vibro Champ that is worth FAR more now than when it was brand new. Also, I recently sold my 59 Bassman reissue after having it for 9 years for exactly what I paid for it. The only reason I sold it is because I don't need that kind of volume anymore so I essentially traded it for a brand new Princeton Reverb that I just love that I am sure will be worth plenty in another 10 years. My point is simply this; The OP said he had a pile of old Line 6 gear, including a Dream Rig and he is afraid Line 6 will leave him in the lurch with this "old gear" and not pursue the high end pro user market as vigorously. Now, I haven't done all the math on what he listed just from Line 6 he has invested in already, but "cheap" isn't likely to be part of the answer. Plus, he doesn't sound truly satisfied with what he has because he is feeling "less love" from the mothership at Line 6. Again, nothing against him for this intended, but how many posts like this, and others where people who once "absolutely loved" their new gear now can't wait to get something new have YOU seen?

I fear that this ship has sailed already. I have a lesser pile of products, many from Line6 and it would be larger but I've sold a lot off for pennies on the dollar. Digital gear is great when it's new, but it fades fast once it starts to lose that glow. For example, you say here that you have a whole "dream rig" but if it truly was a dream rig, you wouldn't be looking for an upgrade, right? You'd presumably be living "the dream" and playing it lol...Nothing against you (or anyone) mind you, but my point is chasing the digital dragon will always leave one unsatisfied I believe, unless you like the kool-aid as is. Line 6 for their part are probably wise to this, and what better market to tap into than the younger I-Thingy crowd that hasn't learned this lesson yet? They will (and have) fix minor issues to keep folks happy and for all I know, they are working on "The Next Big Thing", but I doubt it. It will be incremental change at best, perhaps remarketed as Super HD. This is just my opinion, but I arrived at it by staring at the lesser pile of digital gear I had acquired over the years.

I'm not smart enough on the technology or it's implementation to make a call there. One thing I do know is that Line 6 IS a business and there would have to be some financial impetus for them to develop anything even if it were possible. Someone mentioned this Logidy pedal which I need to go look at now just to know what the heck it is lol...

Just coming on board with the concept of IRs which has apparently been around quite a while. If I understand you correctly, the current generation of hardware inside the POD HD series isn't really up to the higher sample rates of some of the IRs? That and the sample rates are at the elast, highly variable anyway? Over at the Gear Page, IRs are discussed a lot and I am really just coming to understand the technical aspects of it. More research is needed by me, but it's fun stuff so I dig it a lot anyway. One thing I do know is that for $500, the POD HD500x is a pretty powerful option sans IRs, and in order to step into the world of IRs and Axe-FX and Kemper Profiling Amps, your going to need a LOT more cake than $500 so I can't imagine that even if Line 6 does go there, it would be inexpensive to the end user.

Are you suing the HD Edit program for your computer or doing this on the POD itself?

I guess I don't see the point of this post. I'm glad you're happy with your Kemper and yeah, they look cool and all but then too they are $2130 whereas the HD500x is $499 so I would expect it to be better. So the choices for posting this I have in my thinking are: 1. You're pissed you wasted your money on the POD to begin with and wish you'd just gotten the Kemper to begin with? 2. You want to brag that you can afford a "better" system to all the "Great Unwashed" at Line6 land? 3. You have little better to do than to come to a forum and push people's buttons who actually have A Line6 Dream rig? 4. You're outhouse rat crazy and you actually have no Kemper, but randomly post to various forums for the trolling effect and the thrill of that? I can see no other reason for it, but I am an apt learner so if I've missed one, let me know OK? Waiting on pins and needles....

So I hear your new dream rig is a Kemper rack with a QSC FRFR speaker? Cool story bro. Does Kemper know you're slumming in the Line 6 forums?

Gonna prolly sound strange in this crowd, but The Youngbloods "Get Together" has long been my favorite guitar tone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbrn9eXEKWk

This is my Dream Rig at present.... Guitar wise, I got a JTV59 running into a POD HD500 via VDI cable, then out to a Boss RC30 and on to a pair of Tech21 Power Engines. But J-Law here is MUCH better in my opinion.

Hey, I don't know if this is actually true or not but you've got me convinced. Makes perfect sense.

See, I thought this was just me. Now at least I understand why.

See, now this might cost me more money....An M13 in ythe effects loop of my HD500 and into a pair of L2Ts....dang you ColonelForbin!

So here's a wild, random thought for you Colonel -- why not run the M13 in the outboard effects of the POD and have like 12 effects possible at once -- never run into DSP overload. Lol...nevermind, you already figured that out.

Good observation! When learning is kicking my butt I generally clean/restring or go through a setup on my guitars or adjust the bias on my tube amps. Keeps my head in things but shifts focus away from whatever I am having trouble with. Then generally when i get back to that thing, it is a whole fresh take and often clicks in place.