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Best I can think of is to use a Stereo Looper at the end of the chain with the merge mixer right before it being hard left and hard right. Then your outputs would be Left and Right carrying your guitar on one and vocals on the other. I can't think of any other way to split the signal to discrete channels and have both in the looper (you can only have one looper active). Just tested this. It works, keeps the two inputs separate in Left and Right channels. You could run one out through XLR Right and the other through 1/4" Left and it would work fine too. You would lose any other stereo options with this. You can't have stereo effects that all go into the looper and out a discrete output path though, so you'll be running mono, but that shouldn't be a concern.

My bass was only $400. I have $700 worth of speakers and the Helix.... Of course, when I play my bassoon through this stuff the balance tips considerably into the direction of the instrument itself (almost 20x the cost of the Helix)

What do you find is the difference? Is the Mackie a little "muddy" compared? I sometimes have that concern about them.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Thump12A--mackie-thump12a-1300w-12-inch-powered-speaker I have two of these. Mostly play bass through them and I get plenty of lows and quite a lot of power. Even if I only take one out of the house.

Aside from actually looking like an amp, I can't see it being particularly more special than any other 12" PA solution. I'm happy with my pair of these: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Thump12A--mackie-thump12a-1300w-12-inch-powered-speaker

But there are functions to pressing both the Bank Up and Down buttons at the same time. This would be an order of magnitude more tricky to accomplish in the layout of the Boss products. Especially if you happen to not have wide feet, or are playing barefoot, or whatever. You basically lose that functionality of pressing both at once. It's also not intuitively obvious. Up and Down are buttons respective to each other. Having them side by side means possibly having to guess which one is up and down. When they're laid out vertically you know the top one is up and the bottom one is down. Intuitively I figured it was Up on the left and Down on the right, but I'm wrong with respect to the Boss pedals.

2 out of 3 instruments I use with the Helix have or are used with a preamp. They sound weak through the Aux input. It would make sense if that input had an ability to be more flexible. The Guitar In has a pad function for instruments with too high output already. Maybe some keyboards or something work better with that much of a pad, but even my keyboards don't output that hot.

OK, so what exactly is the point of the Aux input jack then? What specific device would work well in it? I have a bass with active pickups and it sound like garbage (very low volume) through it. Much better through a guitar or return jack. Likewise my other instrument has an active preamp and it doesn't like the Aux in. This is all compared to a strat with standard pickups and no battery, which of course works best through the Guitar In.

Yeah, I guess I'll be using the FX return for now, since it's the right input gain level. It's just weird that the Aux isn't somewhat configurable without taking up a block to boost the gain 12dB.

I thought that was a thing, but I can't find it, either in HX Edit or on the unit itself. There is a parameter for the input GATE, but not an level parameter.

Boo.... Too bad there's not ctrl+click function in HXEdit. Oh well.

Is there a way to copy multiple blocks or an entire path, and then paste them in order into another preset, without overwriting the rest of said preset (by copy and pasting the whole thing)? Using HX Edit, of course.

I'm going to be running two instruments simultaneously through the Helix for a group I'm in, and I figured out I can run the second instrument into one of the Return jacks and it sounds right, but the Aux jack is considerably quieter. About -12dB from the guitar input jack. Is there anywhere in the settings that input jack can be set to be the same as the guitar? I know the guitar in has a pad option in the globals, but I found nothing for the Aux.

Yeah, that Obsidian as a preamp is super critical for this kind of sound I've found. Great sound and great tutorial on the sound. Care to just upload the patch (minus the IR of course).

OK, yes, you should be able to do this. Create a Pitch Shift effect block. Move it to a lower part of the signal chain so the chain is split. Hard pan that to the Right. Hard pan your other signal to the Left. Run the right output to your bass rig, and do whatever else to the guitar chain and send the left output to your guitar chain. Probably easiest to do this in HX Edit on your computer but you should be able to do it pretty easily on the unit itself. Pages 14 and 15 of the manual: https://line6.com/data/6/0a020a4010c935bb66a4c0c44f/application/pdf/HX Stomp Manual - English .pdf

I'm not sure how you'd manage the signal paths in the stomp, but you should be able to run the guitar into the regular input, the bass into the Aux input, and keep those on separate signal chains that send to Left and Right out respectively. This is super easy on the Helix (floor) but not sure about how flexible the stomp is, if it's any different. Edit: I totally misunderstood. Completely disregard this. This is really easy on the Helix though, so you should be able to with the stomp, I just don't know how you edit the signal chain and what the stomps limitations are.

My first instinct would be for you to use the Aux in instead of one of the effects returns, although those can be routed the same way, but would require an input block. Keep in mind the Aux input is a bit quieter than the Guitar input jack, so you might need to adjust your initial level or your first gain stage (easily fixed with an EQ block first in your signal chain that you leave always on). I think the Effects Loop inputs are also padded in the same way as the Aux jack. Should still work though. But yeah get that input jack fixed up. Probably just some dirty connectors.

Solved here:

Thank you. This is directly related to the question I asked last night as well. How do you set the min/max in the HX edit application? Edit: found it in the "Bypass/Controller Assign section of HX Edit. I usually do the controller assign on the unit because then I know physically where the button is. Can never remember which is footswitch 7, and so on.

I know the "right" answer for this is snapshots, but I don't want to use snapshots for this preset. I'm setting up a distortion block but want to add a clean blend to it, so I'm moving it to path B and using the Split and Mixer blocks that result on path A to blend in my clean sound. The thing is I don't really want it evenly blended, but rather slightly less of the clean sound compared to 0dB as defaults in the merge block. So I thought I could control the parameter for the A level in the merge block to be controlled by the same switch that engages the distortion block. I would think to accomplish this I set the control to the switch and then on the dirt block engage set the lower level and on the dirt block disengage the 0dB level. But assigning the merge block to the footswitch sets the levels to -60dB and +12dB when I click the switch back and forth. Definitely not what I would ever want. Can I set a min/max level on the merge mixer parameter I'm trying to control, since clearly it doesn't remember the levels I had it set at for the on/off states of the switch? This is the first time I've run into a parameter control issue on the Helix, and I know I could solve it with snapshots, but I want this to be a simple pedal on/off scenario. This whole issue could/should be fixed by adding a blend parameter to every effect on the unit (purity to the original effects controls be dammed).

A really loud clean amp would be welcome. Personally the #1 feature I'm missing that would help completely replace the only other piece of gear I'm using now is user customizable scales in the smart harmonizer. Additional polyphony would be perfect but getting 4 voice polypohony in the smart harmonizer is probably never going to happen. My Voicelive products are always probably going to fill that niche.

FWIW, I build my presets for stereo, because in many of my applications the performance space is an actual concert hall, with a stage and an acoustically designed room. I run two PA speakers that are set at far ends of the stage, or run into a house installed stereo PA. Since my audience is usually seated, and the room designed to be acoustically sound, stereo effects can work rather well in my situation. Even for people on sides of the hall. Stereo Flanger and Pan effects can be really cool. Chorus can be super thick sounding. Delays can have a subtle thickness by making one just 3ms longer than the other. But I'm not doing this in bars and restaurants or clubs.

Wondering if anyone has made any Kurt Rosenwinkel like presets with their Helix. He likes some interesting colors, pitch shifting, ethereal reverb but with a really clear and clean base tone that comes through really well.

14.5" x 12" x 2.5" (maybe a little more on that last measurement.) It should fit comfortably. The top of the outer pocket flaps open completely so there shouldn't be any issues getting it in and sipping closed. You won't have any room in it for anything else really though. There is one more tiny pocket on the top but it's not big enough for patch cables. You can usually fit a patch cable or two in the main pocket with the Helix (on top of the switches).

I definitely agree that there is a severe need for more modern bass amp models. However, you can try using the guitar cabs and you might be surprised at them. Since we're not at risk of blowing the speaker, they're perfectly safe to use. Most of the bass cabs are too dark and muddy for my taste, although I can make some of them work. I disagree that most of the effects don't have a blend control. Most do. And you can always set up a parallel path to mix in dry signal. You're totally right about usable filters though. I've never been happy with the filter models on any Line6 unit. The "Legacy" Autofilter is the best one still. I wish for a QTron or an MXR Bass Envelope Filter model.