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yes i've used that option in the past. Trouble is you have to set up every patch you use with this extra path and routing option in order to use this method. Which is a bit of a pain. I've had to resort to just using my main computer/s to do this instead and leave iPad for another day - when this has been fixed.

BUG Related to using Ableton on one Mac ( iMac 2011 ) - using HELIX as interface for IO - when operating and controlling this mac and ableton - remotely over Wi-Fi using a laptop ( Macbook Pro ) and Apple Remote Desktop. [ i've raised a support ticket ] I use my HELIX with Ableton on my 2011 iMac ( El Cap ). Often I operate my iMac remotely using Apple Remote Desktop - from my Macbook Pro over wi-fi . I am noticing that when I set Ableton to use HELIX as the USB input and output device - Ableton suddenly uses a lot more CPU - and control over it using Apple Remote Desktop becomes choppy and slow. Soon as I revert back to main headphone outputs on the iMac - and select no input - or my old L6 TonePort GX interface as input - everything is fine - and I can control the mac and Ableton remotely fine. It is as if something about the connection stream ( interprocess-related or IPC or TCPIP related ) is clogging the CPU bandwidth. I can notice the amount of CPU being taken up by Ableton going up, AND the CPU being taken up by Apple Remote Desktop. This is something you guys should be able to repeat. Just to add - there is my JTV plugged into the VDI connector at the time this is happening.

agreed. its perfectly doable technically. i suppose for certain patches it might need a noise gate to detect but current technology can register and record the first transient and what follows very accurately. ( zPlane for example - as used in Ableton/Cubase etc )

You're not wildly off topic.... and what are you also wrong about ? :) Some friends call me "curious Dan"..... i'm just curious from an engineering standpoint. I think simulation - whether in games, physics, VR and especially the realms of sound, be it acoustic instruments or amps..... its all fascinating and amazing stuff. We live in a decade in which Einsteins theory has just been vindicated by a twin-black hole collision about a billion light years away ... AND ..... we get to play with virtual amps which most of us don't and could never own... What a great time to be alive. HELIX and LIGO :)

No that wasn't the point at all. I merely used the Revolver ( which is a respected sim - regardless of which is better ) blurb as an illustration of how sim marketers all seem to end up implying that their current version "actually" simulates down to component level - as if earlier versions didn't. And if one looks back to the early versions of these sims - in the blurb they all say/suggest the same thing... "we emulate/simulate the circuitry"

And heres an Ideascale suggestion for L6 to add the missing functionality I discuss here: http://line6.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Looper-a-way-to-trim-time-from-when-first-loop-was-recorded/805696-23508?submitted=1

On the HELIX Looper: add a way to trim time the beginning of when the first loop started being recorded Idea Action http://line6.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Looper-a-way-to-trim-time-from-when-first-loop-was-recorded/805696-23508?submitted=1 When you're recording your first loop do you always have to start playing the first note of the loop ( beat 1 ) the moment you hit the RECORD stomp pedal. It would be great to have a way to stop go back after having recorded the first "pass-through" and - while the loop is still playing - change the point at which the first loop starts - in other words cutting out- say the first blank second of silence that was recorded ? This would reduce some of the nerves and errors one goes through when having to hit the RECORD stomp pedal at the same time as playing the first note of the first bar of the first loop. there could also be a crude magnitude-normalised-wave-readout waveform-type display of the recorded segment on the display [ like in Ableton or Push 2 or MPC ] by which we could then visually trim off the beginning silent bit etc... Having that colour display ............ might as well use it.

That was my idea - for some add-on pedal type device that would not only house and support a memory card slot but also some other added value functionality - connected over USB to the Helix. The add-on functionality might for example be just an extra pedal, maybe with a single footstep switch - or a small 4/8 pedal unit with scribble-strips for each - because frankly the more you appreciate the power of those Helix scribble trips - you want MORE pedals-with-scribble-strips ! they're awesome. This extra "pedalboard-thing" would be designed style-wise to look exactly as the HELIX does ( without the colour Display ). Heres the FR: http://line6.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Extend-Looper-capability-with-add-on-unit-w-SDHC-memory-card/802351-23508 For example it would be great just to have all the controls for the looper we currently get by pressing on the looper block - have all those appear instead in this extra add-on unit - thereby leaving the pedals on the HELIX in their normal pedalboard state - so no more having to exit the looper to change tones/effects and then go back into the looper. This add-on unit could also be more than just the memory card interface but also have on board all the looping functionality itself. That way this device could actually be sold JUST as a new looper - but one with SDHC AND.... with those lovely scribble-strips! AND with the ability of being used as an extension pedalboard for the HELIX - that also makes the looper so much more user friendly. Specially on stage.. And if such an add-on had the ability to looping by itself - that would also release some DSP power back to the HELIX to be used by other effects blocks instead ! AND by being a separate external looper one wouldn't have to worry quite so much about switching patches.

yet.... time for an "IdeaScale" ;)

When you're recording your first loop do you always have to start playing the first note of the loop ( beat 1 ) the moment you hit the RECORD stomp pedal - or is there a way you can press the stomp and then start playing the idea, say a second or more later ( after "record panic" has gone ) then having pressed the stomp to stop recording - go back and - while the loop is still playing - change the point at which the first loop starts - in other words cutting out the first blank second that was recorded ?

Many thanks !

I tried to get iPad MIDI controller app "TB MIDI Stuff" working with my Helix. Couldn't figure out how to get the Helix learn function to pick up the controller CC's from the app. Anyone else tried and succeeded - or willing to give it a go ? One can then publish template files for it that can be shared with all. The app details are here http://www.thiburce.com/TBStuff/?page_id=664 a video is here : support forums here: http://www.thiburce.com:8080/TBStuff//forums/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=a56f5dcade3e0f61cb0b928b4c88675b Youtube of Bi directional syses template for a Roland GR-55 here : ( or maybe just show how to use TouchOsc for that matter - another MIDI control app for iOS

In virtually every promo blurb or description of why an amp sim plugin, hardware effect or iOS amp sim is "better than the one before.. or others..." you will hear that in "THIS ONE" its "BETTER BECAUSE" the engineers modelled "in detail" every component in the amp circuitry - from valves to transistor. Then a new version comes along, HD or V2.0 of Amplitude etc - and the manufacturers will say - NOW we model "everything in the amp" ? then a "Helix" will come along and they day - "oh now we model down to the "component level". Clearly compromises were made in earlier versions that could be removed in later versions due to DSP ( or power draw ) performance improvements. So heres the question to L6. Explain how the modelling for - say a Marshall Plexy improved in detail - and where - in which component areas - from the Amp Farm Pro-Tools plugin > Pod > HD > Helix. This is a question from an electronic engineer and programmer. Not to steal ideas - but just to get a sense for just what _was_ accurately modelled as a component - versus some approximation using EQ curves, input-output transfer curves , "tricks" etc.. For example the team behind Revalver IV ( a highly respected amp-sim VST/AU plugin ) say in their promo blurb that in the LATEST version - IV - they moved to using an open-source commonly used electronic circuit emulation-design program called SPICE ( which has been around for a long time - and used to model circuitry - originally not in real-time ) because NOW CPU power allows them to use SPICE to model everything in the circuit.... which means prior to this--- not everything WAS being emulated at component level. Presumably certain circuit groups ( tone-stack for example ) were implemented through some other way.. Just curious !

POLYTONE AMPS ! http://line6.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Polytone-Amp-Models/802349-23508

New idea: Allow browsing/selecting from the effect-list, amp-list etc by footswitch http://line6.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Allow-browsing-selecting-an-effect-or-amp-by-footswitch/805424-23508 Foot Edit mode is great for tweaking a block. But theres no way to flip through the selection of amps or effects etc using the foot stomp switches - that has to be done with the joystick alone. Some means of being able to flip between effects by foot to audition them would be useful and save on the back too ! Why Heck ! being able to also set up at the least a "basic" preset from scratch block-order etc ( say just a linear one - no branches ) would be really cool too. Think how impressive it would be to have a YouTube video demonstrating someone at L6 create and set up an entire simple patch - entirely by foot ! As Picard would say..... "Make it so" :)

Rotary Knob GUI display readout of Volume/tone type parameters http://line6.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Rotary-Knob-GUI-display-readout-of-Volume-tone-type-parameters/805218-23508?submitted=1 Currently we get a linear representation of an amps drive, tone, master etc settings. This isn't very clear. Much better would be the typical circle "pie-chart-slice" type of rotary-know style readouts we get with VST type plugins and elsewhere. ( or the Kemper comes to mind ! ), This need only be small - just enough size and colour scheme etc to be able to instantly tell whether a setting is on 90% , 10% or 50 of "full".

Anyone tried Korg NanoKontrol or iPad MIDI control apps (e.g. TB MIDI Stuff) with Helix? As in tweaking amp and effects parameters from knobs and connecting by USB to the HELIX. one problem is i'm not sure how to connect this to the Helix USB. I did play a bit with attempting to send MIDI from NanoKontrol 2 from Ableton - connecting NanoKontrol to my iMac and from there to Ableton - with NanoControl set up in Ableton as a MIDI device. As for iPad MIDI control apps - i've used TB MIDI Stuff in the past. http://www.thiburce.com/TBStuff/?page_id=664 Does anyone have templates or experience yet with using TB MIDI Stuff with the Helix ?

says doesn't support yosemite or higher http://www.orban.com/meter

Yes I waited for this acoustic amp - when all i really wanted was to be able to control 5 EQ points using the big knobs. I find for both arch top jazz guitar and acoustics in my JTV that no amp model at all is best for clarity - just some EQ blocks in there, compressor and reverb. Maybe a speaker model for arch top- but i got interesting results without that too.

Where the Editor ( I hope ) will really become useful to me - is when the Helix is not in the same room - or near me. For example normally my Helix is connected to the music iMac sitting on the baby grand - the normal "production rig". And with the USB from the iMac connected to the Helix all the time its not outside the house. But for many ergonomic reasons I prefer to work from my laptop in other rooms- to maybe the adjoining room and use Apple Remote Desktop to remotely access and control the iMac. So ideally i could be switching patches, changing settings - outs etc and controlling my DAW and Helix remotely. For such situations an Editor - like the one in the Pod HD is indispensable. In other words there are situations potentially where an editor app would be a key part of the production/tracking or just music-making process - when NOT on the road, Just my tuppeneth.

Personally - apart from the Apple touchpad and keyboard i've always found BT to be unreliable. As for Wi Fi in a live situation - yes I kind of get that.

Here is two setlists ( USER1/2 ) that hold a subset of the factory patches ( 1.6 ) ordered by amp model I've place each amp type on clean ABCD boundaries with the title of each amp prefaced with asterisks ( *** ) it doesn't include all the HM High gain models. its my personal subset of amps - and sorry again - no bass models. And another zip file with folders of separate presets - grouped by amp Here are the models included: Bogner Shiva (German Mahdeva) Divided BY 13 Dr Z Route 66 Fender Champ Fender Deluxe Rvb Fender Twin (Double) Fendr Bassman (Tweed Blues) HiWatt Jazz Chorus 120 Mail Order Twin (Silvertone) Marshall JTM 45 ( first amp ever ) Marshall Plexi Matchless (Matchstick) Orange OR80 Park 75 Soldano Stone Age (Gibson) EH185 Supro Vox AC15 Vox AC30 Vox AC30 Fawn (60s) SortedByAmpSetlists.zip Folders of Presets Grouped By Amp.zip

I just updated my suggestions for an add-on box to Helix that would contain an HDSC SSD card slot to allow for much more powerful looping features ( even like in the new Digitech Trio+ maybe ? ) so that it includes WI-FI too. Here is the link and description of my suggestion in full: http://line6.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Extend-Looper-capability-with-add-on-unit-w-SDHC-memory-card/802351-23508 Manufacture an add-on device - say a second Swell pedal - or a foot-controller-extension WITH a built-in slot for an SDHC card on the side and a USB socket to be connected to the main Helix ( via USB of course ). If necessary some kind of USB-Splitter thing could be built-in so that while this SDHC extender pedal is connected to the main Helix the Helix can still connect over USB to any other device - say a computer or iPad etc.. for audio etc. This "extender" box could ALSO finally incorporate WI-FI built-in in order to finally allow the Helix to be controlled. programmed and managed over Wi-Fi - by for example an iPad. The Helix Looper software could then be modified significantly to support very advanced types of Looper functionality - making use of the storage of the SDHC card - accessed over the USB connection. The current Helix unfortunately does not have an SDHC card slot - which would have allowed Helix to have much more power due to the vastly increased storage capacity of such 1GB+ memory cards - easily available and cheap. The new breed of looper pedals are now supporting such SSD based cards and they allow not only for minutes to hours worth of Looping/recording time - but extend features such as playing backing tracks - multi tracks - and more importantly - allowing SEVERAL SEPARATE LOOPS to be built-up and triggered independently. Having had the Helix for only a short amount of time - the sheer power and user-friendliness of the LCD Scribble-strips above each pedal only makes me want even more pedals-with-LCD-Scribble-Strips. So I think another way to add my "SDHC extender unit" to the Helix product range would be to produce an add-on foot pedal controller unit - similar to say the HELIX CONTROL - but maybe with less switches ( 4, 8, whatever ) and maybe with a swell pedal - AND containing that vital SDHC slot. And then of course - in future Helix models - Helix II - such a SDHC slot ( and functionality ) can simply be built into the main Helix unit itself - to make Helix into the end-all of Loopers as well as multi-fx boxes !

I just updated my suggestions for an add-on box to Helix that would contain an HDSC SSD card slot to allow for much more powerful looping features ( even like in the new Digitech Trio+ maybe ? ) so that it includes WI-FI too. Here is the link and description of my suggestion in full: http://line6.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Extend-Looper-capability-with-add-on-unit-w-SDHC-memory-card/802351-23508 Manufacture an add-on device - say a second Swell pedal - or a foot-controller-extension WITH a built-in slot for an SDHC card on the side and a USB socket to be connected to the main Helix ( via USB of course ). If necessary some kind of USB-Splitter thing could be built-in so that while this SDHC extender pedal is connected to the main Helix the Helix can still connect over USB to any other device - say a computer or iPad etc.. for audio etc. This "extender" box could ALSO finally incorporate WI-FI built-in in order to finally allow the Helix to be controlled. programmed and managed over Wi-Fi - by for example an iPad. The Helix Looper software could then be modified significantly to support very advanced types of Looper functionality - making use of the storage of the SDHC card - accessed over the USB connection. The current Helix unfortunately does not have an SDHC card slot - which would have allowed Helix to have much more power due to the vastly increased storage capacity of such 1GB+ memory cards - easily available and cheap. The new breed of looper pedals are now supporting such SSD based cards and they allow not only for minutes to hours worth of Looping/recording time - but extend features such as playing backing tracks - multi tracks - and more importantly - allowing SEVERAL SEPARATE LOOPS to be built-up and triggered independently. Having had the Helix for only a short amount of time - the sheer power and user-friendliness of the LCD Scribble-strips above each pedal only makes me want even more pedals-with-LCD-Scribble-Strips. So I think another way to add my "SDHC extender unit" to the Helix product range would be to produce an add-on foot pedal controller unit - similar to say the HELIX CONTROL - but maybe with less switches ( 4, 8, whatever ) and maybe with a swell pedal - AND containing that vital SDHC slot. And then of course - in future Helix models - Helix II - such a SDHC slot ( and functionality ) can simply be built into the main Helix unit itself - to make Helix into the end-all of Loopers as well as multi-fx boxes !

But is this REALLY the 1.06.1 update - fixing 1.06.0 or just the same old 1.06.0 ? Confused I Am....