bvaladez74

Ya, even though I haven't seen it happen to mine in a little while, I'm gonna continue gigging with my full Helix vs my Stomp pedalboard. I just can't risk the outputs going silent during a gig. Or on boot up before a gig.

This is a real known issue by customers/users, but unless I'm missing something, I haven't ever seen Line 6 recognize this as a known issue. This has existed for a very long time, reported all over forums, groups. It happened to both of my stomps, but on earlier firmware versions. I've also heard that it happens randomly on current firmware versions. Update yours though. It may stabilize. I've only done 2 legit gigs with my Stomp board, and because of this bug (even though I haven't seen it in a while), I gig with my Helix Floor.

I know you have 3 years experience with 4CM, but it does sound like you've accidentally swapped like one of the FX cables and the amp in or something similar. Or is sounds like somehow the FX loop on the Marshall is disengaged. Sounds simple, but obviously that's where the troubleshooting starts....simplest to complicated. Also, you've tested with another amp right?

@rd2rkI wish people would stop steering others in the wrong direction on this. The stomp currently can change amp channels on an amp via MIDI if that amp has a MIDI learn function. Many people successfully have this in place. My EVH's amp channel switching is done by my Stomp. The stomp will respond to simple fixed PC messaging. Command Center will provide us with advanced MIDI functionality.

Never ask this question again. :)

Multiple users have experienced this. 1/4 outputs are dead. 1, 2, 3 reboots fixes it sometimes. Resetting sometimes works. Upgrading to the latest firmware (if not already) sometimes works. I've experienced this on 2 different Stomps, current firmware and 2.8. However, I haven't experienced this in a while. I haven't seen an official Line 6 person recognize this as an issue. It may be because nobody's properly reported it? Not sure. It's definitely a thing. Especially if you troll the FB groups.

My guess is, because it's a high gain distortion (amp in a box) pedal on top of a high gain amp?

Like already mentioned, there's no way of knowing 100% what's gonna be announced at NAMM, however...there's no way they're gonna release a new Stomp this soon. No way. Get a Stomp and enjoy.

90% of a really great convincing gain'd up rock tone is about the IR you're using. Some believe the built in cabs are good enough, but most know that a great IR makes ALL the difference. Same exact philosophy of running your real tube amp into a lollipop cabinet. No amount of tweaking will really give you a satisfying tone. Getting a couple good IR packs from like Ownhammer or Celestion will be the difference of almost wanting to return your Helix and using it as your main rig and loving it.

Everyone will have an opinion on this and not necessarily in line with each other. Mine: - When dialing in tones (especially gainier/medium to high gain tones), you have to do this at close or right at stage/gig volume. - I typically run my big volume knob all the way up, or close to it, and back down the main L/R output volume. I just make sure to tell the sound guy "Start with the channel gain a 0 and EQ flat". It sort of emulates a cranked amp better and really gives you the best of all frequencies, as well as, dynamics and punch. - When going full direct to FOH, keep in mind...PA speakers do not have that same mid range, low mid range guitar friendly punch and "body" that a speaker cab in the room has. Same as when you physically mic a cab and what comes out of the PA half the time is underwhelming. So the biggest headache for me, is really a lot of tweaking and trial and error and really experimenting with EQ, mid range. I find that tones may sound great at home, then turned up at a gig....it may sound buried in the mix and not a lot of that mid range, tube amp girth. So if you're dialing in tones at home and it sounds mid range heavy, chances are in the context of a loud PA or a band mix, it's just right. - Another trick on gain tones, is adding the minotaur in front...gain all the way down, tone higher up (then pulling highs down on the amp)..and the level up to taste. That adds so much clarity and dynamic to the tone. - Another trick you can try is turning the sag down a bit. Tightens the amp up.

From what I understand this isn't poly yet.

Thanks in advance. I just got a Stomp this week. Background, I'm very high level proficient on a full Helix Floor. It shipped with firmware 2.65. Been working on building presets for about a week. I went to update to 2.82 tonight. The update ran successfully. Yes, I did run a full backup first. After the first reboot following update, NO OUTPUT. It sees an input (tested by engaging the tuner. Left and right 1/4 jacks are not live. Neither alone or together. I've done everything. I've run the buttons 1 and 2, buttons 2 and 3, and buttons 1, 2, 3 resets. I've rolled back as far as 2.70 and re-updated to 2.82. NO OUTPUT. To save the initial low hanging fruit troubleshooting, yes tried different cables. It's an issue with the unit itself...sees input, but no output. Is there another reset anyone knows of? Before I return the unit, looking for help.. Any ideas? Thanks, Brian

Dude. "In a few years"? Why are you even thinking about what Line 6 will release in a few years? All things change in a few years. Do you not purchase a cell phone because Apple will release a new model in "a year"? Do you avoid purchasing a vehicle in 2019 because they'll release a new one in 2020? Would you not buy a laptop because it's obsolete in 3 years?

Hi guys, Thanks for the responses. Just to reiterate. I wasn't looking for answers to troubleshooting. It's a fact, that going from gig to gig, sound company to sound company, you're going to get a different default EQ curve depending on systems, speakers, the mixer itself, etc. You're getting a different starting point tonally depending on the sound system you're relying on. I'm fully aware of letting a sound man know to set things flat and the tricks to cutting through more. I was just stating my experience and my end result. I've noticed most take minimal gear hauling and convenience over getting the best tone possible. My goal is tone first, authentic tube amp feel/tone in FOH and on stage...THEN convenience. Thanks all.

+1 on the PPC212. I have all the Orange Cab sizes. They are far superior tonally than most other options.