brue58ski Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 New video if anyone cares. At 12:26 Digital Igloo says this along with a more specific comment on what it will contain. 1 new amp, four new effects and "some pretty cool additional parameters and features....." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datacommando Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I hope your St. Patrick's Day is on March 17th, like the rest of the world! That must be the amp of a special "Colour" and the new "Math" delay thing, beside the optimising to the engine etc, which DI says some people will notice and some will not. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, datacommando said: I hope your St. Patrick's Day is on March 17th, like the rest of the world! ;) Oooooops. I'll fix that. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molul Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Nice! I wonder if the poly engine optimization will allow putting a poly capo, a revv gen red amp+cab and several other effects on the same preset on a Helix LT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigGT Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 5 hours ago, datacommando said: I hope your St. Patrick's Day is on March 17th, like the rest of the world! That must be the amp of a special "Colour" I'm trying to think of a green amp and can only think of Matchless :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molul Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I thought this "colour" amp would be an Orange one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigGT Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, molul said: I thought this "colour" amp would be an Orange one. I was going with the St Patricks Day colour scheme :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molul Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Oh, I think I missed that. Was the St Patrick's date a hint about the amp color, or were you just joking? XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigGT Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I was just joking, Datacommando started it :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molul Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Oh, then I guess I ruined the joke ^_^U 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierM Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 hours ago, molul said: Nice! I wonder if the poly engine optimization will allow putting a poly capo, a revv gen red amp+cab and several other effects on the same preset on a Helix LT. I wouldnt really hold my breath on this... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicLaw Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I'm confident and optimistic that Eric's insights of the anticipated release will be actualized in an impressive version update! Once it is fully baked, we'll all see what it has to offer. If on or about St. Patrick's Day, toast the release with a Green Beer! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mritt Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 My guess is the Rev Gen's GREEN fuzz channel. Green demo at 7:42 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datacommando Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 23 hours ago, mritt said: My guess is the Rev Gen's GREEN fuzz channel. Well, if you check the video (at around 27:00 in ) which I posted in this link (below), you can see that both Eric and Ben seem to indicate that it is the colour of the tolex covering on the amp that is what is being hinted at. I maybe wrong, but, here ya go... https://line6.com/support/topic/59310-hx-stomp-xl-how-many-of-you-were-waiting-for-this/?tab=comments#comment-367535 Possibly Orange? Hope this hasn’t pissed on your chips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datacommando Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Further information from Eric - "Hopefully around St. Patrick's Day." Spoiler alert: Probably won't happen by then; lots of stuff to release this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molul Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 It would be funny if they released 3.1 on april 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappazapper Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 It's not here. I hold you personally responsible. Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestOpinion Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 If I hack my Helix, write my own update, and turn it into a $1500 brick does that void the warranty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappazapper Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 24 minutes ago, HonestOpinion said: If I hack my Helix, write my own update, and turn it into a $1500 brick does that void the warranty? Ha. Listen. You see this all the time, proprietary software being released into the public domain and developed by users and hobbyists. At some point L6 is going to abandon the Helix. Maybe we should start the campaign now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestOpinion Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 19 hours ago, zappazapper said: Ha. Listen. You see this all the time, proprietary software being released into the public domain and developed by users and hobbyists. At some point L6 is going to abandon the Helix. Maybe we should start the campaign now. Although it wouldn't open up the core functionality of a device like open source would, really when you think about it there are so many freeware or even paid VST/AU plugins available. All it would take is one of the current modeling companies enabling them to be run efficiently, relatively crash-free, and agnostically(e.g. any VST/AU from any company or developer that satisfied a general set of requirements or standard) and we would be halfway there. Obsolescence could definitely be delayed if you were able to just add plugins which are improving all the time. You could potentially encourage existing industry leaders like Neural, Fractal, or Line6 to provide the equivalent of a Quad Cortex, Axe-FX, and Native plugin available to you to use simultaneously on your "open" floor or rack hardware. And again, there are mountains of freeware plugins available. Might take an optimized and powerful hardware/firmware platform but the technology seems to be getting there quickly. Some devices appear to be moving in this direction already. It could be interesting to have an open source modeling platform at some point. Simple devices like the Behringer FCB1010 have had their capabilities enhanced by swapping out EPROMs/firmware. Phones, tablets, and video streaming devices have been rooted; the same with operating systems on other devices. I suppose it could be done. That or just develop a modeler with open source from jump. The usual open source challenges would still exist. Security, support, code quality or lack there of, "curated" programming to maintain feature quality, etc.. Not to speak of the level of expertise both technical and musical required to pull this off and the willingness to give it away. Still, I suppose it could happen. No saying how satisfactory the results would be and separating the wheat from the chaff would be a monumental task. I personally am offering for a minimal fee a firmware chip mod that will convert your Helix from an impressive and capable modeler into nothing but an A/B switcher. Ah, simplicity. So far no takers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappazapper Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Ya I've mentioned the idea of a VST Wrapper block on here before. The consensus, like a lot of things around here (ahem), was that it's a great idea and that it doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of ever happening. Reaper evolved from a pet project from the guy that created Winamp after he sold out to AOL. JSFX (short for "Jesussonic") was originally created for the purpose of making a Linux-based guitar FX rig which would enable users to program their own effects modules. They eventually decided that hardware wasn't the business they wanted to be in and that an audio effects programming language was too specific, so they created Reaper essentially as a home for JSFX. And Reaper itself operates on a completely different model than any other DAW, where a lot of the features of the program are actually extensions written by users. Of course, it's a lot easier to do that on software written for general-purpose computers as opposed to a purpose-built unit like the Helix, and also there's a big difference between a system designed for live performance vs for recording. If a recording app has a bug, theoretically there's some time to get online and have the issue addressed (and they are quite responsive to bug reports and feature requests - a few of my suggestions have made it into the changelog) before you have to get the final mix out. If your live rig has a bug, you have to live with it in the moment, which could be in front of thousands of people. So I don't blame L6 for keeping it closed and slow and subject to a boat load of testing. But once it goes EOL, who knows. Would it be in their interests to release it? Do they have enough faith in their customer base's enthusiasm for their next generation product? Does that even matter? It's like a lot of things around here (ahem) - great idea, but probably not gonna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadmans Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Years ago, I used to use Brainspawn Forte with a RigKontrol 3 and laptop live. Could do amazing things with it, ran all sorts of synths and plugins but was hated by sound engineers and venues as I didnt have an amp. Went to Helix floor to appease the ludites and have less stuff to go wrong but do miss it. Great program for those that havent tried it. Shame no 3.1 yet but the year is young ; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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