thepler Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I recently purchased a used JTV-59. Of course it came with no battery charger or usb interface. After learning that the XTLive doesn't charge the battery, I googled a replacement charger. A user on one of these forums noted that the battery was similar to a Sony Handycam battery, model # NP-F570 camera. I just picked a charger up at the local batteries plus yesterday for $30. In stock and works great! Link: http://www.batteriesplus.com/product_search/43952-Sony-Digi-Cam-Battery-AC-DC-Charger-CAM10551.aspx Also available much cheaper on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Charger-NP-QM71D-NP-QM91D-Batteries/dp/B000KU5CN0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1397434696&sr=8-2&keywords=sony+np-f570+charger (I didn't wanna wait) Now, does anyone know if a generic Ethernet-to-USB adapter will work as a replacement for the USB interface? Thanks, T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 there is no alternative to the usb interface... sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelForbin Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Line6 JTV battery charger $49.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_Watt Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Now if we could just find a cheaper alternative battery that works in the JTV.... I would like a spare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snhirsch Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Now if we could just find a cheaper alternative battery that works in the JTV.... I would like a spare. If you modify the guitar to connect the + and - battery terminals to ground and ring of the 1/4" jack (instead of the internal PCB) I have to believe that any physically compatible 7V battery will work. The OEM arrangement uses a digital handshake with the battery to ensure you have a gen-u-ine Line 6 battery, but since the guitar will power from 7V DC on the cable it ought to run from battery there as well. Disclaimer: I have not tried this and do not intend to since my Line 6 batteries still hold a charge and I'll be moving to an XPS mini soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glaucofulco Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I recently purchased a used JTV-59. Of course it came with no battery charger or usb interface. After learning that the XTLive doesn't charge the battery, I googled a replacement charger. A user on one of these forums noted that the battery was similar to a Sony Handycam battery, model # NP-F570 camera. I just picked a charger up at the local batteries plus yesterday for $30. In stock and works great! Link: http://www.batteriesplus.com/product_search/43952-Sony-Digi-Cam-Battery-AC-DC-Charger-CAM10551.aspx Also available much cheaper on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Charger-NP-QM71D-NP-QM91D-Batteries/dp/B000KU5CN0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1397434696&sr=8-2&keywords=sony+np-f570+charger (I didn't wanna wait) Now, does anyone know if a generic Ethernet-to-USB adapter will work as a replacement for the USB interface? Thanks, T Thank You very much! Since I bought my JTV-89 I have no problems. But yesterday I left a guitar string touch the terminals and... BURNED something inside... Then I found this post and it "saved my life". The generic charger (and batteries) costs half price from the original. And I can't found here in Brazil the original. Thank You very much!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glaucofulco Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Again: Thank You very much! Since I bought my JTV-89 I have no problems. But yesterday I left a guitar string touch the terminals and... BURNED something inside... Then I found this post and it "saved my life". The generic charger (and batteries) costs half price from the original. And I can't found here in Brazil the original. Thank You very much!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevekc Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 . A user on one of these forums noted that the battery was similar to a Sony Handycam battery, model # NP-F570 camera. That was my suggestion from a few years back But as we know the "official " Tyler Variax Battery uses a unique chip ID in the battery - to verify its a genuine Line 6 Battery. After many fires with other products a decade ago, There are a host of new global UL/CE standards for Li-Ion Batteries in Consumer devices - and the special Line 6 Tyler Battery with chip is more about compliance with UL/CE safety standard - vs just another profit center for selling a $18 Sony Camcorder battery for $49.99 http://www.iec.ch/etech/2011/etech_1011/ca-1.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glaucofulco Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Again: Thank You very much! Since I bought my JTV-89 I have no problems. But yesterday I left a guitar string touch the terminals and... BURNED something inside... Then I found this post and it "saved my life". The generic charger (and batteries) costs half price from the original. And I can't found here in Brazil the original. Thank You very much!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glaucofulco Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Hey Guys!!! :lol: I bought a "Sony Battery Charger BC-V615" (very cheap) and I had to "strengthen" some contacts of the original battery Variax JTV-89 and it worked !!! It perfectly charged the "battery" and this came on the guitar with a little more pressure but nothing that harms or spoil anything. Soon comes the battery compatible with Sony NP-570 model and I'll test the Variax. The next step will say here soon. :D See you. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hey_Joe Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 ... I had to "strengthen" some contacts of the original battery Variax JTV-89 .. Out of curiosity, what do you mean by - You had to "strengthen" the contacts on the original battery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snhirsch Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Hey Guys!!! :lol: I bought a "Sony Battery Charger BC-V615" (very cheap) and I had to "strengthen" some contacts of the original battery Variax JTV-89 and it worked !!! It perfectly charged the "battery" and this came on the guitar with a little more pressure but nothing that harms or spoil anything. Soon comes the battery compatible with Sony NP-570 model and I'll test the Variax. The next step will say here soon. :D See you. :P Unfortunately, only Line6 batteries will work in a Line6 guitar. Several of us have tried this with no success. It might be possible to rewire the guitar so the battery ties to the same line as the ring of the 1/4" jack (not digital handshake on that AFAIK), but I've never been motivated enough to try it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glaucofulco Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Out of curiosity, what do you mean by - You had to "strengthen" the contacts on the original battery? Sorry about my English. I use the Translator to write. I had to "tighten", "to narrow" the two poles of the original Variax battery so they could be loaded on the Sony charger. I'll try to cut it with a "saw arched" Sony battery connectors if it does not come. The battery is coming and I will not have another use for it, if it does not work. I'll take the test in the original charger that is burned, not to risk the guitar. Once I have results put here for those who are in the same situation I found myself. Thank you friends, see you soon. Glauco Fulco ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hey_Joe Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I see what you mean now. The English translator works well enough with the photos to give us a picture of what you did. Thanks for the reply. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmayfield Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Now, does anyone know if a generic Ethernet-to-USB adapter will work as a replacement for the USB interface? Please don't try this - at best nothing will happen, and at worst you'll damage something. The VDI connector is the same shape as an Ethernet jack, and since an Ethernet cord is just wires, it'll work to use an Ethernet cable to plug a Variax into a Pod. But the actual signal IS NOT Ethernet - instead, DC power, MIDI-like control signals, and AES-like digital audio is being sent along those wires. An Ethernet device will expect entirely different signals to be sent on each of the eight wires in the connector, and certainly will not expect power to be sent along it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms33trm Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Does anyone know a UK supplier with any stock of batteries as I have been trying for weeks without success? Email to Line 6 USA replied they cannot supply to UK and suggested I phone European headquaters, which are in fact, Yamaha in Germany. I know some have issues with using chipped batteries rather than cheaper generic ones. I don't but would ask if you are restricted to chipped batteries then there should be a readily available stock of them at all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevekc Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Available August 2015 here:Andertons UK http://www.andertons.co.uk/guitar-parts/pid22333/cid708/line-6-replacement-jtv-james-tyler-variax-battery.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meekie61 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 GAK in Brighton have the Variax batteries in stock http://www.gak.co.uk/en/line-6-replacement-rechargeable-li-ion-battery-for-james-tyler-variax/83345. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glaucofulco Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Unfortunately, only Line6 batteries will work in a Line6 guitar. Several of us have tried this with no success. It might be possible to rewire the guitar so the battery ties to the same line as the ring of the 1/4" jack (not digital handshake on that AFAIK), but I've never been motivated enough to try it. Thank You Gear Head, after couple years :-). I will try a new solution for the JTV Battery: They have two batteries "ICR18650 3.6V 2200mAh". I'll change the internal batteries for two with same size and voltage BUT with 8800mAh. If the duration in use be double time, will be much better. The price is about US$2,00 for each one. And to open one was easy. At finish I'll tell the result. See You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Stick with the factory spec stuff. Generic charge and drain rate product don't work. That's why there are so many news reports of Li-Ion products blowing up and catching fire. Using cheap mis-matched crap. Mis-matched cheap junk that doesn't work worth a damn. Use the correct part number from reliable sources and not those fly-by-night nimrods. If I find a fried battery compartment or charger when one comes in for servicing, I'll know why, have seen this in a host of products at different places I've worked. Generic substitutes and you're looking for problems,... maybe too deep for even me to bail you all out of. (did I just do a dangling participle?) Cheap really is cheap. Stick with specs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyboy Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Thank You Gear Head, after couple years :-). I will try a new solution for the JTV Battery: They have two batteries "ICR18650 3.6V 2200mAh". I'll change the internal batteries for two with same size and voltage BUT with 8800mAh. If the duration in use be double time, will be much better. The price is about US$2,00 for each one. And to open one was easy. At finish I'll tell the result. See You. Obviously, you're unaware of "counterfeit" 18650 Li-ion cells. Chinese print all sorts of specs on dangerously cheap battery cells and pawn them off to the vaping and flashlight crowd. I've opened so called 3200mAh cells only to find a baby 200mAh pouch cell soldered inside along with sand to mimic the weight of a legitimate Panasonic/Sanyo GA 18650 cell. There is NO 8800mAh 18650 Li-ion cell anywhere in the world. It's a total lie and fabrication. Some of the highest energy density 18650 cells reach about 3500mAh. Since the JTV uses 2qty cells wired in series the mAh capacity will not double. It will simply be whatever the single cell happens to be. In most cases JTV uses 2200mAh cells - my guess is LG or maybe Samsung? I haven't dug into one yet. 2200mAh (8Wh) cell wired in series (2S) remains 2200mAh but 16Wh total capacity. The Wh (Watt Hours) will go up in series strings but not the Ah (Amp hour) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Can't wait to see how this one plays out... lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I have way too many horror stories (first and second hand) to be getting into here, relating to way too many bogus and dangerous Chinese fake electronic products. Batteries, IC chips, a host of different components and such, going back to the 1990's. The list is long. And even more articles about this in electronics engineering journals. Cheap price = cheap product. Caveat emptor,... buyer beware. In the meantime, stick with the specified factory components, it's the safe bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glaucofulco Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Obviously, you're unaware of "counterfeit" 18650 Li-ion cells. Chinese print all sorts of specs on dangerously cheap battery cells and pawn them off to the vaping and flashlight crowd. I've opened so called 3200mAh cells only to find a baby 200mAh pouch cell soldered inside along with sand to mimic the weight of a legitimate Panasonic/Sanyo GA 18650 cell. There is NO 8800mAh 18650 Li-ion cell anywhere in the world. It's a total lie and fabrication. Some of the highest energy density 18650 cells reach about 3500mAh. Since the JTV uses 2qty cells wired in series the mAh capacity will not double. It will simply be whatever the single cell happens to be. In most cases JTV uses 2200mAh cells - my guess is LG or maybe Samsung? I haven't dug into one yet. 2200mAh (8Wh) cell wired in series (2S) remains 2200mAh but 16Wh total capacity. The Wh (Watt Hours) will go up in series strings but not the Ah (Amp hour) Thank You for your explanation. You're correct when said "there is no 8800 mAh batteries in world yet". I found two 2600 mAh and I decide to change the batteries of my first Line6 original battery. I have other two years younger that the first one, with 2200 mAh. I'll test both and I hope that it works well. See U all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glaucofulco Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Obviously, you're unaware of "counterfeit" 18650 Li-ion cells. Chinese print all sorts of specs on dangerously cheap battery cells and pawn them off to the vaping and flashlight crowd. I've opened so called 3200mAh cells only to find a baby 200mAh pouch cell soldered inside along with sand to mimic the weight of a legitimate Panasonic/Sanyo GA 18650 cell. There is NO 8800mAh 18650 Li-ion cell anywhere in the world. It's a total lie and fabrication. Some of the highest energy density 18650 cells reach about 3500mAh. Since the JTV uses 2qty cells wired in series the mAh capacity will not double. It will simply be whatever the single cell happens to be. In most cases JTV uses 2200mAh cells - my guess is LG or maybe Samsung? I haven't dug into one yet. 2200mAh (8Wh) cell wired in series (2S) remains 2200mAh but 16Wh total capacity. The Wh (Watt Hours) will go up in series strings but not the Ah (Amp hour) Can't wait to see how this one plays out... lol I found two 2600 mAh and I decide to change the batteries of my first Line6 original battery. I have other two years younger that the first one, with 2200 mAh. I'll test both and I hope that it works well. See U all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 It's not just voltage, it's drain rate. Drain rates need to match. Need to use the specified part. Using a non-specified part can void the warranty. If it's out of warranty, then all I can do is wish you luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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