robbieb61

As I said earlier...after I originally did the first post, Digital Igloo wrote me and told me that they are working on getting the integration with the DT amps via L6 link. So it appears to me that they are working on it and will correct the problem in the near future. :)​

I CAN'T backup any of the patches I've made. The Helix App crashes on my Windows 10 machine...and it's the only method of backing up that I know of.

I took the advice some of you gave...and I went in and created lead sounds on the same patches as the rhythm sounds and assigned them to footswitches to keep the trails of the delay. ​ Seems to work just fine! As for the Dual R​ec not supposed to be cranked to "10" and not having a "Drive"...that may be so. But I'm telling you that on the Helix that is what I am using for lead sound. And it sounds great! I'm not one for sounding like a mosquito with too much distortion. I like having a thick and creamy mid range tone that also requires my picking hand to get things done. That's why I don't like distortion pedals in front of an amp. And I was able to achieve that sound with the Boogie Rectifier model on the Helix. Whether they modeled it "exactly" as a "real" one...I don't know. But I do know that the lead tone I'm getting is perfect for me and behaves exactly like a real hot rod tube amp should. And once I added in my DT50 amp and Bogner 4x12 it got even sweeter. ​

I tried that as well. It crashed. I even tried compatiblity settings on it for Win 8 and Win 7...but it still crashed.​ I need that app! I wa​nt to be able to back up my patches and also to be able to add IR's ​

Is there any word yet on when the Helix App will work with Windows 10?

The only thing I keep wondering is: Why on Earth didn't the HD500 or now The HELIX have delay trails when you switch patches? It sounds so bad to be playing a lead with delay and hit that last note before going back to a crunch sound and the delay gets cut off instantly. It seems like that would have been something that woud have been addressed a long time ago. :(​​​

It's so easy to get my sound with the Helix. :) The HD500 took forever to figure out. But I haven't even looked at the owners manual with the Helix.

Been using DT edit with my amp for a long time brother so I'm familiar with what you're saying. BUT...as I said, the He​lix is sending weird signals as well as routing to the preamp. For instance...the minute you connect Helix to the DT50, the toplogy indicators go dark. There is no I, II, III, or IV It's just not workable at the moment. But as I also said a bit earlier, I have been told via private messaging that this is being addressed in the next major update to Helix. It has now become one of the priorities. So for the moment I'm going to use 1/4" cable to the effects return and have the DT50 set to topology IV. :) And soon, we will have that L6 link working again. Not to change topologies...but at least to get that signal in to the DT50 correctly. ​

I played with my new Helix last night on Fremont Street here in Las Vegas with my band. I used it going straight to the PA and had a separate monitor mix for myself with Helix being fed back to me. I usually use my DT amp and Bogner cab as well and mic them up, but last night there were 3 different bands so I had to break down from the stage quickly. Verdict: The Helix sounded GREAT! The soundman at the venue complimented me on my guitar tone. We play classic rock. I'm using the Boogie Rectifier amp for crunch and leads. My lead tone just has the drive all the way up on 10 as opposed to the crunch tone being on 6 and I also crank up the master volume on the lead patch a bit. Plenty of distortion and​​​​ sustain while still maintaining articulation. Basically...it sounded a lot like the Boogie rectifier amp itself would have. I'm very pleased. Today I've been setting up patches to use with my DT 50 and Bogner 4x12 cab. I'm running straight into the effects return of the DT50 because Helix isn't working properly yet to use the L6 link with the DT amp (but that is coming they have told me). And now that I've got the same amp settings using the "Preamp" instead of "Amp & Cab"...it sounds incredible with the tubes of the DT amps power amp section and the coloration of the Greenbacks in the Bogner cab. It really thumps and has an extra "sweetness" in the distortion. :) ​

@doug316 Yes I'm using an amp patch in the Helix. What is happening is that when I go into the DT amp via the L6 link it is not working the way it does with the HD500 and is instead sending the signal to the preamp of the DT instead of the power amp section. So it is sounding like crap that way because the full amp patch of the Helix is then hitting the preamp section of the DT amp. Also...Digital Igloo is the message board nickname of one of the guys at Line 6 who posts here. And as I said, they are aware of it and are going to improve the situation in an upcoming update. @TheRealZap Yes, my DT50 is up to date. :) @cuch I haven't had time to sort all of that out yet. As I said, I'm going to be onstage on Fremont Street here in Vegas in a few hours. So I mainly concentrated on getting my sounds together in the Helix using my 15" JBL Eon active monitor as my reference to work with. And the Helix sounds freakin' AWESOME through it. And that is the sound I'll have tonight without using my DT50 at all. So I'm just going to use the multi out for it. When Line6 gets the Helix integrated better...I'll be using the L6 link to go to the DT50 and from there to my Bogner 4x12 Greenback loaded cab. I like to mic that cab. It sounded SOOOOO good with the HD 500 that way. And I know it's gonna sound even better with the Helix because the Helix sounds 100% better than the HD500 just going through the JBL Eon speaker. :)

No, I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is that when you plug in the Helix via L6 link to the DT amp...the topography controls do not work at all and you have no way of even knowing what topography you are using. And the only gain that works is the physical amplifier controls because the signal is being passed to the preamp section. Having said that...Digital Igloo has told me just now that they are working on a better integration with the DT amps on the next major update of the Helix. It will never integrate as much as the HD500 did. But it will integrate and be usable! So that is GREAT news! For now though...no, it won't work with the DT amps. But the Helix sounds so good (miles and miles better than the HD500) going straight to the board that I know when they DO get it working with the DT amp it's going to be damn near unbeatable.

The way that Line 6 experts put it on the forum was that the audio would still transmit from the Helix through the L6 link but you wouldn't be able to change the topology. I was fine with that understanding. But what it's doing is completely different. The very second you plug the L6 link in to the DT50 from the Helix...the topology indicator on the amp disappears, none of them are lit up. And I was only getting a faint sound no matter how much I turned up the amp master. I always keep the controls on the amp all the way off when using the L6 link (no real reason, I just do). So I reached over and turned up channel A on the front of the amp and there it was. Every control on the front panel of the amp is working. :( Which must mean that L6 with Helix is hitting the preamp section first. I have a gig to play tonight using the Helix direct to the front mixing board. So I won't have time to mess around with my "Dream Rig" setup today. But I wanted to make this known to the Line 6 folks. Having no control over topology wasn't a big deal to me. Having the L6 link totally useless IS a big deal. :( EDIT: I'd like to add this: The Helix is WAY superior to the HD500. The sound I'm getting coming out of the XLR to the JBL eon powered monitor is fantastic. And I know that if I could get it running with my DT amp and Bogner cab it's gonna be even better. Just wanted to put that in so people don't think I'm not happy with the Helix. I am VERY happy about the Helix. Just want to get it working correctly with my DT amp.

Got my Helix today. I'm using it tomorrow at a gig on Fremont Street here in Las Vegas. For that gig I'm going straight to the board and the P.A. So I sat down with one of my JBL Eon active monitors and got my sounds together for the gig. Sounds GREAT!!! But then I went to make a separate set of patches to use with my DT 50 into my Bogner 4x12 cab. I had already saw that the Helix wasn't fully working with the DT amps YET. And what I read was that it would pass the signal but not the topography. I didn't really care, I was going to set the topography on IV and work with the patches. Imagine my surprise when I found that plugging the L6 link in to the DT 50 turns off the topography on the front panel of the amp. And then I discovered that instead of the L6 link passing the Helix to the power amp section of the DT50, it is instead sending the signal to the PREAMP section of the DT50!!! Totally useless. :( I never read any of the threads where it was said that it wouldn't pass the signal straight to the power amp like the HD500 did. I only read that it would still pass the signal but you wouldn't have control over the topography. Now I'm freaking out!!! I've got an expensive DT50 amp and Bogner 4x12 cab that I can't use at all with the Helix. Were you guys at Line 6 aware that the L6 link doesn't pass the signal to the power amp but to the preamp of the DT amps when used with the Helix? That really sucks. I can still run a 1/4" out to the return send of the DT50, but it isn't sounding so hot when I do that.

I also voted for it. The DT amp and it's tubes are ESSENTIAL!​

It's amazing what technology has done! I remember back in the 1980's playing with my own cobbled version of a "Bradshaw" rig. I had a mesa boogie studio preamp that ran one side into one of the channels of a SimulClass 295 Mesa Boogie ​tube power amp and then to a 4x12 cab for dry sound. The other side went to my rack of effects and then to a rack mixer and then to the other channel of the Simulclass 295 and into another 4x12 cab for "wet" sound. Just in the rack of effects I had serious money invested. No "multi-effects" back then. Dedicated delay units, reverb, chorus, and of course a HUSH noise reduction unit.​ That rig sounded GREAT of course. And now? I bought a Helix for $1499 That's less than a Lexicon digital delay unit back in the day! lol! ​​​​

Mine just shipped from SW as well and I'll have it on Thursday. :)

I also noticed that there is no cocaine snifting tray either! This is rock-n-roll damn it!​

I have an old soft case that I used for my old Vetta 2 long footboard pedal/controller. I kept it and later used if for my HD500 It's actually a bit big for the HD500 and I'm hoping it will fit the Helix as well. :) ​​ -Robbie

Doh! Never mind! lol http://usa.matrixamplification.com/speakers.html

How much are they?

Damn, we haven't even got it yet and y'all already have an update!

That's the best demonstration of The Helix I've seen. FINALLY some amp tones as well as effects.

It will be great to finally have these units so everybody can start bitching about them next week. lol

Matt from Sweetwater wrote me this morning. He said they got their tracking info and should have them by Monday and start shipping them out. He said I should have mine by the end of next week. :)​

http://www.floydrose.com/catalog/parts/pro-series/locking-nut That's the one ​