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Here's a couple of screenshots of the fail messages you'll get: Too many paths: Too may blocks: These were created in HXEdit on a machine with Helix Floor connected, but I'm sure the results importing Native created files will be similar.

When using Helix as an AI and recording by yourself, you'd use the USB and MIDI connectors to record to and playback from the DAW through the speakers connected to the Helix XLR Outs. Then you can get a cheap DI (Direct Injection) Box, take the 1/4" out to the DI and run an XLR from the DI to the Friedman. Sweetwater just did a DI comparison, passive, active, the whole range, with sound clips. I can't tell the difference. I have a $30 Pyle DI I got from Amazon that I use for Bass from my ME-50B, sounds fine.

Attached are sysex files for the stock FCB1010 (native.syx) and FCB1010 with UNO (native.lgp). The native.syx file can be installed on the stock chip using the free editors. The free editors can also be used IF you have an UNO chip version prior to v1.0.2f. UNO versions from v1.0.2f don't work reliably with the free editors, and require UNO_ControlCenter and the native.lgp file. Bank 00 controls Snapshots, Bank 01 controls Bypass. Banks 02-10 call Presets. Be aware that at present, the only DAW that L6 has tested Native MIDI control in with full success is Logic. I've tested it with Reaper, LIVE and Cakewalk. Bypass, Snapshots and Expression Pedals work fine, but Native will not yet change presets in those DAWs. I've got a ticket open on that. Native.lgp Native.syx

Attached are sysex files for the stock FCB1010 (native.syx) and FCB1010 with UNO (native.lgp). The native.syx file can be installed on the stock chip using the free editors. The free editors can also be used IF you have an UNO chip version prior to v1.0.2f. UNO versions from v1.0.2f don't work reliably with the free editors, and require UNO_ControlCenter and the native.lgp file. Bank 00 controls Snapshots, Bank 01 controls Bypass. Banks 02-10 call Presets. Be aware that at present, the only DAW that L6 has tested Native MIDI control in with full success is Logic. I've tested it with Reaper, LIVE and Cakewalk. Bypass, Snapshots and Expression Pedals work fine, but Native will not yet change presets in those DAWs. I've got a ticket open on that. Native.lgp Native.syx

No. Stomp has a 6 block limit regardless of where the patch comes from.

Much of THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Should comprise the Intro in the Helix manual. Not that anybody reads the manual...............................:-)

I would start with LEVEL in the middle (normal). Turn it UP if the signal seems weak, DOWN if it's overpowering. There are similar controls in Helix for it's end of the FX Loop. Not at all. The idea is to get the Helix Send into the amp's Input. That puts the Amp's preamp in the loop, and gives you the option to use any Helix amp or preamp IN PLACE OF the Mesa preamp, just by assigning the same footswitch to the Helix amp/preamp as you've assigned to the Effect Loop Block, and saving the preset with the Helix amp/preamp OFF and the FX Loop Block ON. When you hit the switch to turn the FX Loop OFF it turns the Helix amp/preamp ON. Instant Marshall/Soldano/5150/Bogner/Engl - you get the picture - Helix provides the preamp tone, Mesa provides the power!. Also, most people prefer most modulation effects before the preamp and, of course, that's where WAH and OD/Distortion effects typically go.

I just looked at the Mesa manual. There's a switch that either puts the FX Loop always on or footswitch controlled. Make sure it's in the always on position. There's also a LEVEL control and a MIX control.

The more I think about this, the more I think it's a physical FX Loop problem, not the Helix at all. If you haven't yet done the whole annoying reset thing, first try the suggestions I made in the next post.

The only other thing I can think of is that the cables you're using for the FX Loop connections are defective, causing the amp to think there's nothing in it's FX Loop, and therefore passing the signal directly from it's preamp to it's power amp, bypassing the helix effects that come after the FX Loop block. Or, the amp's FX Loop is broken - is there an on/off switch for the FX Loop in the amp? If not, try putting some De-Oxit on a jack and plugging/unplugging it multiple times in both the amp's send and receive jacks.

In case you hadn't gotten around to it, I went ahead and contacted Friedman support. This is the reply I received: O the jack is nothing more then a parallel connection. I would be sure the cables you are using are good Sent from my iPad On Sep 6, 2019, at 7:37 PM, XXXXXXXXXXXXX wrote: When the XLR Out is connected to another powered (non-friedman) speaker, the ASC-12 cuts out. Is this normal? Isn’t that the purpose of the XLR Out, to allow the use of a second powered speaker (or a take-off to FOH)? Or does it only work with another ASC-12? Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Send me the new preset. Again, makes no sense. All I did was change the FX Loop Block to 1 (the one I use) and it worked fine. BTW - you DON'T need anything before the FX loop. It's nice to have something, just to see that both ends are working. Here's a modified version to try. If this doesn't work, and you're wired correctly: Guitar to Helix Guitar In Helix FX Send 1 to Amp Instrument IN Amp FX Send to Helix FX Return 1 Helix Left (MONO) 1/4" out to Amp FX Return Then back up your setlists (and global settings) and do a full reset (reboot holding 9 and 10). If that doesn't work open a support ticket, something's broke. Clean - Test.hlx

You said you were using FX Loop 1. That preset uses FX Loop 4. Try changing the FX Loop Block to FX Loop 1.

Second request - attach a copy of your preset.None of what you've said so far makes any sense at all to me. Trying the actual preset is the only way I can think of to help you.

What Helix model and firmware? Attach a copy of the preset.

You'll never get a modeler to sound exactly like the real world amp-in-the-room sound you love. You might get close. If your primary goal is ease of recording, dump the Helix and Powercab and get a reactive load box. That way you'll have the sound of YOUR preamp and YOUR amp. Some have built in cab IRs, or you can use anything once you've got the sound in your computer. But therein lies the rub. It won't sound exactly like the real world amp-in-the-room sound you love. You might get close, but for recording you can either mic your real world rig (the recorded sound will be colored by the mic, preamps, etc) or use a reactive load with cab sims which, no matter how good they are, will always be digital approximations of mics and cabs. Good luck in your search for the ever elusive "perfect sound"!

If you're going to ask hardware questions, details about the hardware are helpful. AFAIK, you can't connect to the Friedman cabs with digital connections. As to the question of "why buy a second interface", Helix is good enough if all you're doing is recording or performing. A second interface would allow you to use the Helix to record digitally (both effected and clean signal for re-amping with Native, method dependent on WHICH Helix you have), and connect to the Friedman by XLR while connecting your Studio Monitors through the Interface. If you get an interface with digital inputs you can cut a DAC conversion too. Also, if it's got a digital connector it's also got multiple inputs for recording with your buds, or even the whole band! Of course, I don't know WHICH Helix you have, what sort of computer you're using, what DAW you're planning on using, what sort of music you're doing..........

If this: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EnsembleTB--apogee-ensemble-thunderbolt-30x34-thunderbolt-audio-interface Is what you're using, then you've got LOTS of I/O! Use the digital (S/PDIF) connections live and if you can get Aggregate Devices to work, Helix USB for recording clean and effected signals. Assuming that your MAC has a USB port to go with it's Thunderbolt, connecting any of the Helixes will allow you to use the HXEdit program. If you can also get the Aggregate ASIO device thing to work your only limitation will be the MAC itself. Dude, if you can afford the Apogee ensemble, get the best MAC they have! When I win the lottery........ I just looked up the Helix Rack features. It has a GUITAR THRU jack on the back panel (not so on my Helix Floor :-(!), so just hook that up to your Apogee and no worries about Aggregate Devices. Here's the manual for the Rack and Controller: https://line6.com/data/6/0a06439c4dfc577d5a2aea898/application/pdf/Helix Rack and Control - Rev B - English .pdf

The XLR Outs are balanced. What's an Ensemble? Like I said, you can take a split off the main path before effects and send that to one of the Helix Sends, and then on to the Apogee. It's a waste of resources in that you only get one split per path. It only takes half the DSP if you're NOT using the Helix as AI, and dedicate an entire path. Did you look into using multiple ASIO devices? As I mentioned, that could allow you to use USB 7/8 for the clean signal, no wasted resources of any kind. Any quality ABY splitter will work to split your clean guitar signal before Helix. I use a G10 wireless which has an XLR that I send to the Scarlett and a 1/4" that goes to the Helix. Of course, that's another DAC conversion/added latency, but you could recover it if you use the Digital out on the Helix to send the effected signal to the Apogee.

If you're using the Apogee as AI, you're dealing with the latency of that unit. You didn't mention which Apogee you're using, so I don't know how many Inputs you have available. If you're using the Helix (any model) as AI, you'd probably get lower latency from the Apogee. Hardware routing is also more difficult with Helix, vs an Apogee with lots of I/O. You'd have to try both and compare. I use a Scarlett 18i20. Better latency than the Helix and LOTS of I/O. If you're using the Helix as AI, then USB 7/8 will send a clean signal to your DAW. If you're using the Apogee you'll need to split the signal before the Helix, or dedicate a Helix path (a whole processor!) to the clean signal, and pan the paths hard R/L, sending them to separate tracks through the Apogee. EDIT: You could also take a separate sub-path just after the Input block and send the signal to one of the Helix FX Sends. Stil a waste of resources though, and needs to be configured in each preset, can't be done Globally. FURTHER EDIT: I've heard there's a way with MAC to use multiple ASIO devices. I'v also heard it's Iffy. If you can get it to work, that could allow you to use USB 7/8 for the clean signal. Maybe a MAC person will chime in on this. Of course, the Helix can be used purely as an FX processor for your synths, again using separate paths for synths and guitar (for live use), but unless you really don't like the Lexicon, or need something that Helix has but the Lexicon lacks, I'd stick with the Lex. Latency with large track counts is ALL about your computer's processing power. Just because you've got a Mac Pro doesn't mean you've got enough power. The rule here is ALWAYS "More is Better!" Your reality with latency and large track counts is determined by how much you have to spend your computer. How powerful your computer is when you're tied to the Apple ecosystem is limited by Apple. You might need to consider something else. The other solution is freezing tracks.

Yes to front of amp, but you'll want to set the 1/4" outputs to Instrument level in Globals.

If you don't want your time based effects (like delays) between your mesa preamp and poweramp, you're good. If it's just the messy cables, see the other thread "4cm too messy" for suggestions on taming the snakes.

Attach a copy of your preset. I'll try it with my amp and see what's up.

There is no way to make amp switching a GLOBAL (universal - automatically applied in every preset). You must configure amp switching in EACH preset. You can set it up to switch the channel when the preset loads by using "Instant Commands" (the lightening bolts in Command Center). You can set it to change on demand with a footswitch. You can do both. The workaround I'd use would be to create a Template with the Command Center settings desired. Then create your presets starting with the Template.

It was definitely a Cb, which comes after E# in the K Locrian Major scale. Line6 is so messed up!