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Me too! I first purchased the DT50 2X12 (typical me, I gotta have the biggest and the best offered!) Got a DT25 a year or so later and now just love it! It has become my main amp! Plenty loud enough! I'm going to get another one as soon as I see the killer deal so I can do stereo DT25's. I've run stereo with the DT25 and the DT50 but I like the look of continuity on stage so another DT25 is a must!

I can appreciate all of the discussion of how to get Helix to work with your DT amp. But that is not the question presented in this thread. The question at hand: Is The Dream Rig Done? Not "How do I get Helix to work with my DT". Remember the Dream Rig? For those who don't remember..... Remember how simplistic it was?...... That! Right there! Remember that thing!?!? I don't want to know about some midi work around for Helix. I don't care about a new Amplifi. I don't care about IOS/Android integration. I don't want a new Firehawk, Firestone, or Firefly! This is what I want to know....Is there a New DT25X, a new POD HD1000 and a New JTV100 Variax (not a Yamaha with Variax guts) in the works? Seems to me the answer is clearly HELL NO! So sad! 'Cause I would buy it in a heart beat!

no one?

Does anyone use a DT and L series speaker for their gigging rig? If so, what order off of the Pod are they? I'm having a bit of trouble getting my L2 speaker to save its setting. Thanx

Let your Crate flag fly my man and let your skill do the talking! lol

I know! Cracks me up! I Just purchased a 2015 Hyundai Genesis 5.0 Ultimate. 420hp V8. Took it over to a buddies house who just purchased an Audi S6. He paid $65k used! I paid $32K used. You could have purchased 2 of my car for his one! When he got into my ride, it was undeniable! My car is very, VERY nice! for far less $$$! My car has has more tech, and amenities than his and my warrantee is forever! He was scratching his head and his wife was cussing him out! There is nothing I like more than to talk to purists in cars and guitars and listen to them tie themselves into a pretzel explaining why it is that this overpriced vintage amp or guitar is worth the amout of money they paid! And they still suck! Then I pick up my Korean made Variax and tear the house down! While they are scratching their head wondering why their $40k 1957 Stratocaster let them down, I'm loading my Chinese made amp and Korean made guitar into my Korean made car with the pano roof and zooming home! Let the snobs be snobs. Take it to the stage and then lets talk!

What garners respect is having a good tone being a good player! If you knock those two out of the park, purists will want to take a look at what you are playing. And they will be hard pressed to call your stuff cheap line 6 crap cause what they just heard is undeniable! Take that to the bank!

Awesome! Thanx! My 2 cents?….I don't want to pay $1500 and then have to get to work making this thing work. Takes too much time away from playing guitar. I will patiently wait for a new DT(H)elix-25 valve amp that is plug and play before I spend any energy entertaining the thought of Helix. (I know, forever is a long time to be patient!) When and if my current rig (DT50/DT25/L2M/HD500 ) finally craps out and I am unable to get it fixed, I will have to think long and hard before I go down a new Line 6 rabbit hole. I'm just not sure that road of product development they are on is one that works for me. The original Dream Rig struck a great balance of future tech and old school. All of this Amplifi and iOS integration tone matching and studio quality live sound is just not for me! Firehawk 1500? Really? Im sure it the bees knees! Just not for me.

I'd have to disagree Rad! The first time ever!!!!! I don't want Amplifi. I don't want to play guitar through my stereo system, I don't want to grab tones from a cloud, I don't want bluetooth, I don't want Firehawk. I don't want an HD500X, the "X" standing for a few eXtra points of DSP and I don't want Helix with its fancy new HX modeling . As awesome as I am sure it is, Helix has nothing to do with enhancing my 2 DT amps and my 2 L-Series speakers and Variax. Right now, I am able to route acoustics over here and electrics over there, switch topologies/class and make it sound AMAZING per preset. Helix can't do that. So its a bit more than just canceling an order over a single feature. As much as I have spent acquiring all of this gear, I certainly don't want to purchase a flagship processor and then immediately get to work constructing some work-around to make it kind of work with my rig. You can control your garage door opener and sprinkler system, make bank deposits and schedule a root canal through the Helix interface, but I'm supposed to walk across the stage and manually set topology and class with the switches on the face of 2 DT amps? I'm out! What is the Helix retail price? $1500? $1600? Give me a truly upgraded and updated Pod HD1000 that does everything that the HD500(X) does plus all of the cool new stuff (large onboard screen, touch sensitive switches, more FX loops, updated FX, updated and new amps, custom IR's, yada, yada, yada!) and I'll pay $2500 for it today and will get 2 of them!

Ya think a new DT is coming out? What makes you think that? From what's out there on the inter webs, it looks more like a discontinuation than a new release.

Got another one. Don't know if it is my best tone But It is the first time I used the Park amp. All guitar work is 1 patch with me switching on and off fx and rolling the volume on my guitar up and down. Never did understand why one would need 4 different amps in 4 different patches for 1 song when 1 patch with one amp can do quite a bit. https://soundcloud.com/terry-sanders-14/darby

I agree. Helix is going to sound good. How much better than the HD?... to be determined. Ease of use and DT integration is what will get my money.

Not quite sure the tecchnical term would be "crash", but sometimes upon booting, the line 6 logo will blink instead of going to the patch. Requiring a reboot. I've had it stop all together in the middle of a set, requiring a reboot. The HD edit software will stop working if I use the HD expression pedal while editing via the software; requiring a reboot. I call these incidents "crashing". It doesn't happen often, just at the most inconvenient of times! If Helix does this 50% less, then It's a win! Point being, does anyone really think that Helix isn't going to sound good? I doubt it. (unless you are a Kemper/Fractal fan waiting for the right moment to upload the ubiquitous "I'm leaving Line 6 and going to Kemper/Fractal cause Line 6 sucks" post.) The real meat and potatoes is; can we get what we need out of this thing quickly in an intuitive and musical way. Again...we'll see.

Entertaining thread! I made this point earlier in this thread and I think it may very well be worth restating. I have no doubt that Helix is going to sound good. Line 6 has the sounding good thing pretty much worked out. Assigning percentages to something that is as subjective as tone is a waste of time. Some swear by Variax spank 1.0 while others only swear by 2.0. To each his own. Go with your ears and make it happen. You have a great tool with the HD500, 500X FireHawk, and Helix. For me the only percentage thing that is worth spending time figuring out is whether Helix is going to be 50% easier to dial up a good tone. Are the menus 50% easier to navigate. Is it 50% more intuitive. Does it crash 50% less, is the DSP limit 50% higher (if that applies) 50% more perameter control etc. I don't think that tone or sound quality is the question. To me the question is, will this new thing make it 50% easier for me to stay in the creative flow, 50% more inspiration because it's so damn easy to use. We'll see.

Celebration of the electric Guitar

so in 1 song you would use a chorus, an auto wah, a tremolo, different delays, etc? Seems like a lot. I mean a 600hp car is cool. Do you really need a 600hp car or is it just fun knowing you have a 600hp car? In other words, do you need 6 different DSP heavy fx get your point across musically, or do you want them because more means better? For me, my rig started sounding really good when I simplified my patches by getting rid of stuff in my patches. With that said, 600hp car is pretty badassed!

Curious to know, what kind of patches are you constructing that bump up against your DSP limit? Can you give an example of one?

I really don't think sound quality is going to be an issue. Helix is going to sound good. Despite the people who swear we are all suckers for liking it, the POD HD 500(x) sounds great! Line 6 has the sounding good thing pretty much figured out. The key is and Line 6 sometimes struggles with: Out of the box, will Helix give you what you need so you can record with ease, gig with ease; does it have a work flow that keeps you in the creative zone or are you going to be lost in windows and the world of tweaking. Is it glitch and bug free? Are the volumes going to be all over the place? Sure its going to sound fantastic in the studio, but what about through an amp? As much as I love my Dream Rig set-up now, I know for a while there, I was ready to throw it out the window on more than one occasion. The learning curve was steep with my stuff. Now that I know how to work my rig, it's not a problem. How about for Helix? Can I plug it in and go? Cause if it's anything like the Dream Rig in terms of ease of dialing up a tone, out of the box, when you aren't familiar with the unit then the answer is gong to be no. Won't discourage me from getting one. The only thing that will discourage me from getting Helix is the lack of DT compatibility. Can a brotha' get an AMEN!

I think I finally figured this amp order thing out. If you want to save different settings on your L -series speaker per patch, the L-series must come first out of the POD. Now I have to go and reconfigure all of my patches cause I assumed the DT was the logical choice for first in line. Line 6, it sure would be helpful to many if you would put that nugget in the manual. It sure would have saved me some grief. But hey....yet another really good reason to go play with my gear!

Running them both is awesome! My go to amp model is the Dr. Z for the 50 and the Blackface for the 25. I pinch the signal at each amp. Run my fx before each amp with volume pedals that control each amp. Fx loop has a Zoom Multistomp, a Eventide H9 Max, Boss Feedback/Sustainer and a EH Super Ego. That keeps my DSP limit in check. To keep this a bit more on topic, I would love to have Helix just for the multiple fx loops! Say good-bye to DSP issues FOREVER! Please make it work with my DT's! PLEEEEAAASSE!

You and me have the same amp setup. I know this is a bit off topic but do you run the DT50 first or the DT25 first? What models do you primarily use for each amp?

As soon as Helix is able to switch the topologies of my DT50's, bug and glitch free, then I am in.

Thanx. Yes I have read it and re-read it. It shows you how to hook up to 4 DT's but says nothing about a DT/L-series configuration. It's a bit odd that no one has a real answer. to this one.

...or they are putting the finishing touches on the brand new DT50HX! Now that's what I'm talkin' 'bout!

Thanx. I kinda figured that the DT would come first. But what about the second DT and the L2M? Should it be DT-->L2M-->DT or DT-->DT-->L2M? I also wonder if a particular configuration will finally allow me the ability to save my L2M settings. For the life of me, I can't get that damn speaker to save its settings.