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Over the Holiday weekend, I had the occasion to use two G10 Receiver Base units with one G10 Transmitter, and it worked out great! Each base unit was connected to a different amp. This provided a terrific opportunity to achieve awesome blends and a wide sound field from the differently configured amps. When the G10 Transmitter was inserted into the additional base unit, that base unit automatically selected what turned out to be the same channel as the original base unit the G10 had been using. This was easy to confirm upon removing the G10T and depressing its collar switch as both bases blinked simultaneously. As there were no other G10 transmitters in use this worked great! Ordinarily, with just one G10 Receiver, wiring to the second amp would be required, and I often the XLR out via an XLR to TS cable for this. So for any G10 owners contemplating a backup/spare G10 Transmitter (as I saw suggested on Idea Scale and I believe here on these Forums), an entire additional G10 setup will do the trick! I tried the dual base setup several times over the weekend and each time the units reliably selected the same channel! YMMV.
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For an otherwise exceptionally designed, compact and easy to use, terrific sounding unit, the USB charging jack absent any ruggedized nor reinforced strain relief is certainly a weak point! Unplugging the source end of the USB charging cable can allieviate repeated flexing, leverage and activity at the charger base's USB jack only in situations where the base isn't moved or USB cable is not exposed to flexing, etc. However, leaving the USB cable plugged into the base is a bad idea if the back of the base is exposed! It would be better to use a power strip or other point of contact to control the power.
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G10 Firmware 1.03 fix blinking green after base power off?
MusicLaw replied to MusicLaw's topic in Relay Digital Wireless
Contrary to earlier indications, and even with the updated Firmware 1.03 installed, the G10T has twice again exhibited the Blinkng Green LED symptom. This after reaching a full charge solid green LED, and the G10T remaining in the base, and the power to the base then turned off. The LED remains solid green after power down and begins blinking about 4 minutes later. It continued blinking overnight until the following morning (about 9 hours). [More details are provided in the support ticket for this issue.] -
Where do you see that the XLR is Cable Tone free? Please provide a link to that resource reference. The only manual I know of is the very brief G10 Pilot Guide (rev b) which is very brief and makes no mention of Cable Tone. The G10's product marketing materials do mention Cable Tone, but nothing about the XLR output bypassing Cable Tone.
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The G10's Pilot guide is very brief. It makes no mention of the Cable Tone feature. I do see Cable Tone mentioned in the G10's product marketing materials, but I do not see any manual mentioning the XLR output being free of the feature. Can you provide a link to the G10 Manual you are reading?
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Adiaz7531, My understanding is that the Line 6 Updater program is what must be used to handle updating the firmware. Have you installed the latest Mac version of Line 6 Updater and tried using it to install the updated firmware to your G10?
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The Comparison table of Relay Digital Wireless
MusicLaw replied to c1140's topic in Relay Digital Wireless
Line 6's PDF Comparison of the Relay Family of Products does not yet seem to have been updated to include the G10. Nonetheless, if you look at the bottom of the G10 product info seen on Amazon, there is a comparison table: https://www.amazon.com/Line-Relay-G10-Digital-Wireless/dp/B01BHPZQ1O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469301547&sr=8-1&keywords=line6+g10- 1 reply
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The firmware update solved the blinking problem with my G10 transmitter. See: http://line6.com/support/topic/22341-g10-firmware-103-fix-blinking-green-after-base-power-off/?p=171365 Sorry to hear you are having problems. You may have encountered a corrupted download or bad installation of the Updater or the firmware. Try repeating the entire procedure.
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See: http://line6.com/support/topic/22341-g10-firmware-103-fix-blinking-green-after-base-power-off/?p=171365
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G10 Firmware 1.03 fix blinking green after base power off?
MusicLaw replied to MusicLaw's topic in Relay Digital Wireless
I had Line 6 update my G10 transmitter to the latest firmware last week. It no longer blinks green indefinitely, after reaching full solid green charge status and it is left in the charger base with the power turned off! The updated firmware has apparently fixed that bug! Thank you, Line 6! -
the relay g10 vs a real and good guitar cable: no...
MusicLaw replied to phenix9's topic in Relay Digital Wireless
Yup! Announced here on the Forums by Tony Aug 16. Firmware 1.03, if I recall correctly. Check the Pinned items at the top of the Relay Digital Wireless sub-Forums. Already flashed mine, and it corrected one problem. -
Agreed that a base with a high capacity rechargeable internal lithium battery would have been a great design. A rechargable USB battery pack works great to power the G10 base.
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the relay g10 vs a real and good guitar cable: no...
MusicLaw replied to phenix9's topic in Relay Digital Wireless
My impression is that he is referring to the Line 6 Updater (necessary to flash the G10 product with the updated firmware) is not supported on the Android platform. -
The Right Angle Adapter's 1/4" TS male plug fits snugly in all my guitars. Unless you actually rotate the adapter (to reposition it in the jack) it does not spin freely. This also with the G10T inserted in the Adapter. I have both the HOSA and LiveWire adapter versions. They are identical.
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Adiaz7531, Get a Support Ticket going with Line 6! I have one open as a result of my phoning support to inquire if the recent August 16 firmware 1.03 fixed the issues you, me and others are seeing. Line 6's response, was the release only “{F}ixes an issue on some transmitters that did not indicate solid green when fully charged in the receiver dock.†They claim they were not aware of the erratic symptoms you, me and others are finding. I have a buddy in Florida who just bought a G10 from Sweetwater (later s/n than my G10) and he's getting the same erratic LED symptoms after system power off following full charge/steady Green. I'll be attending Line 6's Open House Event this week, and hope to get a more informed response then.
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What is the proximity of your Wi-Fi Router to the G10?
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The Software Downloads area reports: "At this time, there is no software available that matches your selection." this when the selection of Relay G10 Receiver, G10 Transmitter or Line 6 Updater are chosen for a (legacy) PC running Win XP. Just learned from Line 6 Tech Support.that there is no WinXP supported method to flash/update the device. Fortunately, I'm nearby and can have them do it at HQ if necessary. Awaiting word back from Line 6 Tech Support rep, if 1.03 resolved the issue I encountered with the blinking after power-off. Hope to hear back from him in a couple of days....
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G10 Firmware 1.03 fix blinking green after base power off?
MusicLaw replied to MusicLaw's topic in Relay Digital Wireless
The Software Downloads area reports: "At this time, there is no software available that matches your selection." this when the selection of Relay G10 Receiver, G10 Transmitter or Line 6 Updater are chosen for a (legacy) PC running Win XP. Just learned from Line 6 Tech Support.that there is no WinXP supported method to flash/update the device. Fortunately, I'm nearby and can have them do it at HQ if necessary. Awaiting word back from Line 6 Tech Support rep, if 1.03 resolved the issue I encountered with the blinking after power-off. Hope to hear back from him in a couple of days.... -
As the firmware 1.03 update announcement thread is locked, I'm posting this here.... Does the mid-Aug G10 firmware release 1.03 ( http://line6.com/support/topic/22340-firmware-v103-for-relay-g10-resolves-blinking-green-led-after-full-charge/) fix the problem of the transmitter (when fully seated in the base unit) starting to blink green after power to the charger base unit is turned off (with a transmitter that had already reached steady green/full charge before the power to the base unit was turned off)? My daily use system is now Android; Windows is used infrequently. Will this update release correct the situation with my Transmitter (as depicted in my Day 1 thread post)? If not, there's little reason to install the Line 6 Windows version updater at this time. Is there an Android version updater in the works?
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As the firmware 1.03 update announcement thread is locked, I'm posting this here.... Does the mid-Aug G10 firmware release 1.03 ( http://line6.com/support/topic/22340-firmware-v103-for-relay-g10-resolves-blinking-green-led-after-full-charge/) fix the problem of the transmitter (when fully seated in the base unit) starting to blink green after power to the charger base unit is turned off (with a transmitter that had already reached steady green/full charge before the power to the base unit was turned off)? My daily use system is now Android; Windows is used infrequently. Will this update release correct the situation with my Transmitter (as depicted in my Day 1 post earlier in this thread)? If not, there's no need installing the Line 6 Windows version updater at this time.
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I use Line 6's provided transformer when using the G10 with either of my main Fender Mustang v.2 III and IV amps. With my Yamaha THR10C (which I run on battery power), to keep everything portable, I power the G10 from a LimeFuel high capacity (15,600 mah) USB Battery Pack.
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After another day and a half using the G10T on a Sheraton-II Pro (ES-335 style body with jack on top), it became quite evident that the towering G10T interfered with quick clear access to the bridge pup tone knob. Using a 90° angled 1/4" female to male 1/4" TS adapter effectively reorients the G10T to a horizontal position. It now lays down close to the body. A much better position on this style guitar! If you rarely adjust your bridge tone you may not have any problem. Otherwise, spring for an adapter. They are available from LiveWire, Hosa and others. BTW, this scenario did not involve any pickup noise, nor ring sleeve battery ground rewiring wiring issues.
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Lee7uk, do your guitars have high gain or active pickups? If so they may be picking up and emitting any signal. Also possible is that the guitar, may be passively resonating from a nearby speaker or sound source. These could prevent the G10T from going in the 4 minute signal power save mode. Finally, have you tried turning your guitar's volume pots all the way down?
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If you're technically competent try temporarily jumpering (using some small alligator test leads) the G10T's Ring and Sleeve to the reverse on the jack, to see if that works. If so, you can then proceed to do the jack's physical ring/sleeve rewiring.
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So long as your Guitar's pickup wiring does not use the pull-up resistor connected to the ring wiring method, you should be okay. From Line 6's pdf: [begin Quote] There are two remedies to this situation. The first would be to rewire the guitar jack, reversing the connections to the sleeve and the ring. This should only be attempted by a qualified service technician to ensure that no damage to the guitar occurs. If this wiring is reversed, there will be no change in the guitar’s operation, and the G10T will function with it normally. The second solution would be to use a mono plug adapter or cable, as described later in this document. Some acoustic guitars with active electronics also include processors, and in some cases, they use a more sophisticated method for turning its power on and off with a TRS jack. For example, some have a pull-up resistor attached to the ring of the jack, and turn on the power when it senses that the ring is connected to ground (as would occur if a TS plug was inserted). This configuration will not work with the G10T, since it will sense the voltage on the ring and assume that it is connected to the receiver for charging, and the guitar would not turn on since the ring is not connected to ground. The solution in this situation is to use a mono plug adapter or cable. Lastly, some guitars have two signals, such as a piezo pickup and magnetic pickups, and will connect one of the pickups to the ring and the other to the tip. Although only the pickup connected to the tip will be heard, the G10T will normally work with this type of guitar, but if not, the solution once again would be a mono plug adapter or cable. [End Quote]