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First thing i would check is the output level of the Kemper: are you sending a signal that's way too high into the M20d ? You should send a signal with an average level around -18 dB, and with peaks at -12 dB ....did you do the auto-trim procedure on the M20d channel where you have the Kemper hooked in ? Else, the channer on the mixer may be malfunctioning, try another channel ?

Hi Jochen....there won't be any official answer to your question....i also own a StageSource/StageScape PA and am retty impressed by its capabilities. Sadly, L6 haven't released any new updates for many years, and all facts seem to hint that this product line is not strategic anymore,...and possibly Yamaha is just emptying its warehouses, after which, they will cease the products. Which is very sad, as the product are very advanced and well performing. The good side of this is: if you find them anywhere, they should be pretty depreciated, because those who have some in stock will try to get rid of them. Also, look at the second hand market. The SoundScape/Stage system is wonderful...even if they discontinue it, it still works and does wonders.... Glad to hear other folk's impressions :) Alb

Hello, i have the same behavior with mine. What i do, is to import the stereo mix track into a DAW, and I "Normalize" it up to -6dB, for example. You surely have this functionality in Ableton....i have it in Studio One, and Audacity also has it. After expanding the volume you can then proceed to do the rest of mastering tasks. Cheers, a.

Yes, what you write is accurate and common practice. However, i wonder why so many people opt for this Headrush FRFR speaker...why not staying with Line6, and procuring a PowerCab, or, as in my case, a StageSource L2M (or L2T) ? These are awesome speakers, are fully integrated with the Helix, you can connect to them via the L6 Link digital protocol...with StageSource products, you can hook up two and they self configure for stereo operation, and you can also use them as part of a PA system...I have a full StageScape+ Stagesource PA system and am amazed at the power and flexibility they provide...so i'd consider L2Ms...i did, and haven't repented....cheers!

If i get what you are asking, you can plug the stereo links from the drum module into two channels on the M20d. It senses two links are added at the same time, and it asks you if you would like to "mate" these two inputs into one stereo channel....accept the suggestion, you now have a stereo channel for your drums.

Wow....well, thanks so much for showing me this!!! I wasn't aware of this capability to create groups...i have missed it all this time. At the same time, you can see you can add any channels to a group, and even global effect returns....but you can't put Monitor volumes in... I also went to Monitor mode, and in there double clicking an unused encoder does not bring up any group creation window....i would suspect what you wish you could do, isn't in the mixer code... Cheers, keep it on!

I don't think this possibility really exist, in SW 1.20...but i wasn't aware you can create "groups of input channels"....how do you do that please ?

Hello, normally L6 Link works...in your case, let's hope in a faulty cable, or in a faulty input connector into one of the Stagesource speakers. Have the cables checked, make sure they snap firmly into the sockets, and maybe connect the speakers in a different order, so you are not using the same initial Stagesource in the chain. Else, it may be the M20d being faulty...

Ehm, not sure i get what you are saying in its entirety, but....when you connect your iPad to the private WiFi from the M20d, it is certainly not going to the Internet at the same time. You either surf the Web, or connect to the M20d and manage it... not both at the same time. Happy and GREAT New Year 2019 to everyone here!

Hi, yes, i have the same, the fan kicks in even at relatively low, home volumes...it's normal. However, if you can hear the fan turning, then you're not playing loud enough!:-)

Interesting topic, i also have Helix, M20d and a pair of L3Ms as main speakers (i haven't used them as dedicated speakers for Helix yet, but i appreciate the possibility to do so, in case of need - using a resident PA system at some larger venue). I'd like to question if there is ANY way to use M20d---L6 Link---> Speaker Chain ...and insert the Helix somehow in the chain ? The logical way would be to go Helix---L6 Link---> M20d....but there is no L6 Link input on the M20d...it's suppsoed to the the startof the L6 Link chain... So are you proposing to insert the Helix somewhere on some L6 speakers...but how ? all speakers in the chain will have their L6 Link In taken up...only the last speaker will have the L6 Link Out unused...is there something i am missing in terms of possibilities ? Many thanks! a.

Hi Canuti, For Live use, yes, each channel can be assigned a dedicated chain of various effects, there are several...i mean really many that you can choose from. Each preset has different effects in it, i could go on my M20d and try and take a few examples maybe... I would say, you don't need any external unit at all. On top of the per-channel effect chain, each channel then goes through 4 Global effects (and you can dose how much each channel gets these common effects - Reverb, Delays and other effects like Doubler are in this area. For Home use, NO, don't sell your audio interfaces, the M20d can perform as an Audio-to-USB converter, but it introduces 4-5 seconds of latency, so not its real role. You can probably record into a DAW what you play in realtime, but the DAW writes the signal 5 seconds later. So you can't use the M20d for overdubbing. It is fantastic when you record using the SD card, as it produces all tracks and the main mix as separate files...so you can then import these into the DAW and proceed on the DAW. Overall the M20d is fantastic, lots of functionality that simply doesn't exist on traditional mixers...including the real-time spectrum analyzer in all EQ effects...and the Line6 Link is awesome too. Combined with the M3T/M and L2T/M speakers, you get even more synergies and capabilities... I recommend it, even if there is no more developement, and today you can find super-deals (699GPB from Anderton's UK for example!) Alberto

Lovely spaceatl...to what levels do you get on the M20d main out ? -20dB ? -10dB ? Cheers, a.

Cool! In my hime studio (which is 100 square meters) i keep the L3Ms in the notched mid-position, and on the mixer i can't go above -24 dB, it gets too loud already :-)

Hello Community: to those of you who do gigs with the Line6 PA system: what levels do you set on the Master out on the M20d, and where do you set the Level pot on the M3M/Ts facing the audience ? In medium/small venues i mean...bars, small stages... Is it better to keep it high on the mixer ( -10dB ?) and low on the speakers...or keep the speaker level knob on the middle notch position, and then adjust on the mixer...sorry for the maybe mundane question but i got no experience live with this PA and will have some in the near future possibly... And no, i can't try this at home!:-) Cheers, Alberto

Nah....it's been put into the Refrigerator...i think, but no official statement, it conflicts with the wider PA product range from the Big Y...but i bought less than a year ago nontheless...and haven't repented a bit...for the use i need it for, it's wonderful.

Hey! Hit the Button! I do the same, and since i bought the M20d, it's been marvelous... there are SO many effects already programmed and modifiable, to be assigned to each channel and instrument, you'll have a blast! And then to the overall sound yuo can also apply up to 4 Global effects, that you can choose and modify in the params...(or better, there are four Global effects, and you can send each channel, after the individual channel effect chain, into the Global ones, with different dosing... I play with the L3M speakers when possible, and in the evening, i just plug the heaphone in... Also consider you can send a base into the AUX input from a PC or iPhone, and record everything in the mixer to a SD card. Or, play the base music form the SD card... if you need any advice, please ask...the worst piece is...this wonderful product has been capped by Line6, and no moreSW updates, but...it's splendid! Alberto ps: you probably have explored all videos on youtube on this already...if you haven't...you should...they're also great as tutorials!

Thanks to both of you for your suggestions!

Hello, i find great that the M20d can record the full band while playing...the sound quality is excellent too. I noticed though, that the level of the recorded file is extremely low...it sounds loud when played back on the M20d itself ...but when imported into a computer, for example into Audacity, you can see the waveform is a very thin line....and playes back extremely soft. You need to normalize the audio to get to a "normal" volume. Is there anything to do on the M20d to set the recording level higher than this ? Many thanks if anyone has noticed this before...

Sadly, i can't say i ever experienced this...i assume you have tried various sources, to exclude the problem comes from the source you are using... ?

Haha! the M20d is stupendous...obviously, using a song repository right off the mixer is lean, but won't let you do crossfades and other DJ tricks...if you have a DJ-ing program on the computer, then use that one... Or, hookup both (computer AND embedded file player on the M20d), so you can fade between the two on the mixer....that's what it's made for!:-D Please rehearse in advance!.-)

Woha! You'll have a BLAST! Put the MAC through the M20d, along with the mics...so you have a single control point. With the mixer you can also control the M3x-M2y chain as a single entity, and you can also set the Equalization easily. And various effects if you wish. Actually, if you put yout music on a flash drive, and plug that into the mixer, then you don't need the MAC at all ...with the integrated Media Player in the M20d! Do rehearse in advance, do not improvise on The Day! Improvisation leads to disaster...(unless you're Miles Davies!!!:-D )

I was facing with the same doubt 6 months ago...it's true that the M20d appears to be an abandoned product, though it is still selling, and this makes you wonder if it's worth to adopt it at this late stage. On the other hand, i compared its features and advanced capabilities with "similar" mixers...and....there is nothing similar in the market. All other digital mixers are just plain simple mixers...the M20d has an incredible amount of DSP power in it, and so flexible and easy to operate, setup and finally, use, that nothing comes close (i think:). The effect chains you can attach to each channels do include some very advanced effects that i still can't use properly :-) The other factor that made me opt for the M20d is the synergy with StageSource powered speakers....it's really magical how everything self-recognizes and self-reconfigures automatically...and then you can control all speakers - front-facing and monitors - from the mixer, including effects and equalization. So i went for the M20d and a pair of L3Ms...and can't regret it at all. Up to you...it's a risk, and there hasn't been any updates for years, but...it's a mixer that sold for 1500$...and now you can find it for as low as 699 GPB at Anderton's...i would say, for the amount of features it brings to you, it's worth taking it. I certainly am extremely happy with my choice so far :) My 1.5 cents!:-)

In my case, since i also have Helix, i simply reverted to using Helix as the soundcard into Studio Pro...i am just starting up with home recording, and have to find the proper approach touse my gear... Somwe'll play live into the M20d, then we'll port the audio file into the DAW, and from there we'll use the Helix for further tracking... Thanks formyour assistance! Alb.

An update on the last item: i discovered the M20d works fine (passes audio into the PC, accets audio out of the PC) if i plug the USB cable into a different USB port on the Computer....so if anyone has a similar problem, just try out all USB ports you have...they are not all the same type...i did not enquire more on the PC itself. Latency is above 1 second though...i also realized the M20d cannot be used as a normal Audio interface...it is only good for realtime recording of all track in a single shot; in this case it is usable. Cheers,