BLACKBIRDxx Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 I have a rack and was learning rush limelight. When playing along with the song I noticed the guitar was off tuned from the song. I tried a few things and to no avail. So my instructor said to try another tuner. I used a pod hd tuner and it was right on with the song. So its looks like the helix tuner is off a bit. Is there any way to fix this problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbieb61 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 That's been a problem since day one with it. As I understand it, Line 6 is looking to correct that problem in a future firmware update...so hang in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence_Arps Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 while there are debates there is no way the tuner is that bad. You should check that the tuner is not off set from concert. I don't believe that you can hear the sort of differences that some people are commenting on using test gear etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klangmaler Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Latest firmware?! Check your tuner settings (p 31 in the manual) and the string offsets - if your helix has the latest firmware, your tuner settings are not 'chaosed' and your guitar is set up well it will work ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klangmaler Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 To DI: I am - astonished ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regalpierot Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 First Trump, then Brexit, now another fricken tuner thread that will descend into chaotic 'accuracy' versus 'precision'. I have concluded it is a vengeful God we live under. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klangmaler Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 That's why I posted again 9 long hours later - 9 hours without this discussion. So I conclude: There still is hope :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKBIRDxx Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 My intention was not to cause anymore tuners debates, i stated the facts as they pertain to me. Yes i have the latest firmware and there was a difference between the helix tuner and the pod hd tuner. It was minor but one is not right if they sound different. The pod hd did sound like the song to me and the helix sounded off. So I'm not sure where the problem lies. I am a beginner so its not a big deal to me as I don't play live, I can always use the clip on or the pod hd. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 First Trump, then Brexit, now another fricken tuner thread that will descend into chaotic 'accuracy' versus 'precision'. I have concluded it is a vengeful God we live under. Don't forget "granularity". Remember, a tuner is just no good unless it reminds you of Grape Nuts...;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dshow Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I have a rack and was learning rush limelight. When playing along with the song I noticed the guitar was off tuned from the song. I tried a few things and to no avail. So my instructor said to try another tuner. I used a pod hd tuner and it was right on with the song. So its looks like the helix tuner is off a bit. Is there any way to fix this problem? You can set the offsets to match your prefered tuner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regalpierot Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I mean joking aside here's all I know, I've been tuning with the Helix since the day it landed. As a Korg Pitchblack user I really like that the interface is akin to what I'm used to using. - When i tune with Helix I have never once sounded off with my band - When I tune with Helix I never sound off when playing along with artist tracks - When I tune with Helix and record into a DAW, the other tracks I add (typically keys and pads) are in tune with what I record I always thought the main complaints were from luthiers and other folks seeking scientifically exact measurements. @Blackbird, if you are saying that you tune and then sound noticeably off with any of the above three that is in no way my experience so our units are not the same somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestOpinion Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 First Trump, then Brexit, now another fricken tuner thread that will descend into chaotic 'accuracy' versus 'precision'. I have concluded it is a vengeful God we live under. Don't forget "granularity". Remember, a tuner is just no good unless it reminds you of Grape Nuts... ;) LMAO! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 - When i tune with Helix I have never once sounded off with my band - When I tune with Helix I never sound off when playing along with artist tracks - When I tune with Helix and record into a DAW, the other tracks I add (typically keys and pads) are in tune with what I record My experience also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb7170 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Same here, have not had a problem being out of tune with other members of my band or with recordings when learning a song. There are some recordings that are detuned, either on purpose or because they were pitch shifted due to tape speed issues - usually older songs.... I usually drop them in my wave editor on my pc and adjust their pitch rather than trying to detune my tuner... Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 FWIW and my 2 cents, I can tell you that in using the Helix tuner versus the newly designed Kemper tuner, there is no way I can set intonation accurately with Helix. I can however with Kemper's new 4.04 (tuner) software. Yes, they are apples and oranges in functionality and looks to a large degree and Yea, the Helix tuner probably wasn't designed specifically for that purpose but still, the Kemper built in tuner is now a helluva lot more sensitive and accurate and allows you to do this while in my experiences the Helix tuner ATM won't or can't without much shooting in the dark. Id love to see the Kemper tuner approach implemented inside of Helix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 ...there is no way I can set intonation accurately with Helix. I can however with Kemper's new 4.04 (tuner) software. Yes, they are apples and oranges in functionality and looks to a large degree and Yea, the Helix tuner probably wasn't designed specifically for that purpose but still,... No way I'll ever set intonation with anything but a Strobe tuner ever again. It's why I keep my Strobostomp2 around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKBIRDxx Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share Posted July 7, 2016 The firmware update fixed my problem. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpdennis Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 No way I'll ever set intonation with anything but a Strobe tuner ever again. It's why I keep my Strobostomp2 around. Peter, Yes! I am actually going to purchase a Peterson Tuner. I had one many years ago (OK, many many years ago) and it burned up in a house fire. I am looking at the StroboPlus HD. And as a side note to others here, I am not having any problems with the Line 6 Helix tuner. Strobe is only for intonation. Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasdave Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Firmware 2.0 improved the granularity. You old tuner die-hards can ignore the top row of bars ;) If you're considering a peterson for occasional setups, consider their smartphone app and cable. My 2 cents, Texasdave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbieb61 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 The 2.0 firmware update made that tuner into a whole new monster. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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