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My understanding is the processor in the Stomp is the same as the processor in the Helix. The Helix just has two of them. So theoretically if you can do it in 1 path on the Helix (it has two, one for each processor) it can be done on the Stomp. I do seem to remember some discrepancy in the amount of DSP in each even though it's the same chip. I am updating my post. I found this. According to this the Helix is able to have 16 effects per path if there is enough DSP but the Stomp is only 8 on it's one path. The article does say the Helix can have 32 but that's because there are 2 proccesors. That makes 16 effects per processor. There is a link to a chart that shows this. It's under Simultanious Proccesing Blocks. 1) HX Stomp is based on same tech, code and software as the flagship models, rack and floor. It does just have 1/4 of the DSP power, less footswitches and less routing options. Max 8 blocks instead 32. Then 2 stereo path (serial or parallel) VS 4 stereo path (serial or parallel) for the full Helix. 2) Yes. You can create presets for your HX Stomp in two ways. Using its own editor (HX Edit), with the Stomp connected to the USB port. Or, using Native with an audio interface (which can be the HX Stomp itself), and then just exporting the preset. You just need to set the Native software to emulate HX Stomp hardware. Only limitation (which is valid for all HX devices) is that Native won't give your hardware related blocks, like send/return and looper. But as said before, you should use the HX Edit to just create full presets. The HX Stomp sounds perfect for your needs. Small footprint and plenty of power for "simple" chains. ;) https://line6.com/documents/processor_comparison_chart/Line_6_Processor_Comparison_Chart.pdf

I'm not sure how much you know so I'm sorry if you're already aware of this stuff. DSP is essentially memory. Each path has a DSP/memory limit. Each effect/amp etc uses a certain amount of memory. A volume pedal uses very little. The new reverbs use a lot. So your Path 2 is "full" Try doing the single amp/cab block in Path 2 instead of using two blocks for them. That'll save some DSP. Also try moving your EQ to path 1. I know there's no room in Path 1 but there's a way around this. if there is enough memory left over in Path 1, you can create another path in path 1 by taking, for example, the last mod effect and clicking & draggin it down you will see another path pop up that's been created that will have 8 more slots. I am doing this from HX Edit. I do know how to do this from the Helix directly. Check out the manual. This will create a Path 1A and Path 1B. You need to adjust the split point going out of path A, so that all of your signal is going down to path B and then do the same kind of thing for the split point gong back to path A. It's a little convoluted and I'm not sure how well I explained it. The EQ doesn't use a lot of DSP and combining the amp and cab into 1 block won't save a lot of memory but it may be enough. Honestly I don't think it will but it's worth a shot. Some other things. I've never done this but if you control the level parameter of the compressor with the Expression pedal, I think it will essentially work the same as a volume pedal so it could allow you to delete the volume pedal block. Not a lot of DSP savings but it could help. I do not know what reverbs you are using but if they are not legacy reverbs consider using those, they use less DSP. You may need to just create two patches. If there are two reverbs you know you will never use at the same time, copy the patch and paste it in another slot, get rid of one of them and put the new one in the new patch That's all I've got. I recommend this https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AndertonHX-e--sweetwater-publishing-the-big-book-of-helix-tips-and-tricks He's got some hints about DSP usage and it's just a good thing. Hope this helps.

Since I am not familiar with what that sounds like exactly, I can only say, try them all. Chourus - Line 6 70s Chorus - Boss CE-1 (In case you didn't know, it's essentially the original/classic chorus) Plastichorus - Modded Arion SCH-Z Chorus Ampeg Liqufier - Ampeg Liqufier Trinity Chorus - DyTronics Tri-Stereo Chorus The Trinity Chorus only shows up when you select STEREO for your model I would start with that one but know it is one of the first choruses so it's parameters are limited compared to the TC Chorus. The next one I would try is the Plastichorus One thing I would strongly recommend is the Craig Anderton Big Book of Helix tips & Tricks. It is a PDF only thing but as the Helix get's updated, it gets updated too and you can download the new one from Sweetwater for free. Here's a link. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AndertonHX-e--sweetwater-publishing-the-big-book-of-helix-tips-and-tricks Good Luck. I hope someone has better info for you. This is a good place for basic model info https://helixhelp.com/models

Several names that pop up frequently are Freeman https://fremenpresets.com/line-6-helix/ Glenn Delaune https://www.glenndelaune.com/helix-patches.htm Worship Tutorials. They have some free patches. https://worshiptutorials.com/helix/ Know that generally, they all need IR's that are included, i.e. they don't use the Helix's cabs. They may have alternative patches that use them but generally the former is true. Not alwys though. Some free patches here. I never heard of them before. https://www.musicgateway.com/blog/how-to/best-helix-patches-presets

There's these. They are supposed to take any guitar pickups, acoustic or electric, and make it sound like the acoustic guitar the pack is named after. These are NOT IR's of an actual acoustic amp. Just IR's to make you sound like an acoustic guitar. https://www.3sigmaaudio.com/acoustic-impulses/ Then the acoustic essentials here https://www.3sigmaaudio.com/helix-collection/ which says "includes presets for All Acoustic Guitars". I'm not sure what that means since it's only $10 and all 16 Acoustic IR packs are $15 dollars each. Meaning I doubt it has all of the 3 Sigma Acoustic IR"s available so I don't know what "All Acoustic Guitars" means. It even says it requires any 3SA acoustic IR and any 3SA cab IR. At the top of the page it says each collection has 20 IRs so I'm assuming those are the IR's it's talking about but I can find no place to confirm this on their website.e There's also this which it supposed to take your acoustic pickup's direct ouptut and make it so it sounds more natural. They are not made for electric guitars and acutally has different IR"s for different acoustic pickup configurations. There is a free pack to try out. https://worshiptutorials.com/product/acoustic-ir-sample-pack/ These are the two acoustic IR brands that I hear the most about. Hope this helps

The two classic reasons for this from newbies is 1) check to make sure the input is correct and 2) the aforementioned check all the levels in the patch. Something may be turned all the way down. Mostly it's been the vol pedal. Did you pay for the presets? If not, where did you get them so someone could check them out.

More good suggestions

It would help me a lot if you could copy and paste a whole path.

Rumor has it, that change is coming in the next update.

Thank you for your efforts. I will check them out later. I'm not sure how much effort I'm going to put into finding this out since all you say is true. And let's not forget how little Line 6 actually goes to this forum. I'd probably have better luck on Gear Page. Thanks again.

I just youtube that device and liked what I heard. There are a lot of different modes so it's probably hard to model but I hope Line 6 tries. Unfortunately, i have no information that will help you. There is a mic preamp that you may be able to manipulate to get what you want. It's called the Studio Tube Pre and is the only available selection in the mic preamp section

I forgot about Helix not being around at the time. Still, let me know what the chain was then. Especially for the acoustics. I cannot get them to sound as good as they do in the clips. I would like some help and I've already been all over the internet. The 12 string Rikenbacher was nice too. But really, I though all of them sounded great there. I was hoping some one still knew/had the info about how they were processed exactly. Help me Line 6, you're my only hope.

I really like many of the sounds on the Varaix sample page https://line6.com/variax-modeling-guitars/sound/ However, I cannot seem to obtain those sounds on my Helix with my Variax. Is there a way Line 6 could provide the Helix patches that were used for that. Unless, (GASP) the Helix was not used. I especially like the acoustic sounds.

Not sure if this was answered but bypassing an effect does not in anyway eliminate or diminish the amount of DSP it uses.

Well, there were two clues that led me to my conclusion. But at the time, I didn't want to say anything out of respect for their privacy. The first clue was the username pianoguy. Then, a long time ago, on the HD500 forum, they said that they played with Alice Cooper. I remember way back in the late '70's early '80's I saw an Alice Cooper concert on cable. The guitar player he had, started playing Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting and Alice told him to stop, that he wasn't suppose to play that. It turned out the guitar player was Davey Johnstone who was Elton's guitar player in the beginning. So the user name pianoguy combined with playing in Alice's band led me to that conclusion. That's who I thought it was. Given the time frame mentioned in my last post, that would make that impossible. I hesitate to say who I think it is now, again for privacy reasons.

Oooooo. Where exactly do I put that code?

Perhaps he could give it to you? Didn't you say you were looking for one?

Found them thanks to Arsilaf. Includes the Jaguar preset as well https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=34314.msg253755#msg253755

Does anyone have the SG presets?

Here's a link to a thread that mentions what I'm talking about. The post is towards the bottom I think.

I haven't and I don't know much but one thing I believe you need to watch out for are connedtions. I think the original pickguard has a metal film on it that contacts both the swithc/pickup assembly a metal film in the guitar cavity. something like that.

Need to have specifics. And even then.... What are you listening to it through? In which positions do you hear it? All of them? Just the models? Just the magnetics? Does it happen in other banks? Have you tried different guitar models in the Spank bank and does it occur then? Have you recreated the Spank bank in another bank and does it still happen there? Have you reselected a Spank model in the magnetics in the and if/when you do does it go away? Does it sound like the note itself is being distorted or like there is a hiss underneath the notes audio? That's all for now.

Well let's see, 50 - 37 = 13. If that is true, it would mean you've been playing professionally, full time, since you were 12 years old if not earlier. It also means you are not who I thought you were.

Oooops. Nothing to see here.

Just an FYI. The Variax tone knob has an issue with Helix. If you set the Variax tone knob on the Helix on a patch to anything between .1 and 9.9, when you switch to another patch, the previous patches' tone setting will remain. The patches tone setting will reflect the tone setting saved with the patch you are on and not the actual tone setting the Variax has from the previous patch but the tone setting will be from the previous patch. If you press the same patches' button a second time, it will then switch to that patches tone knob settings. It is a known issue. It is a pain and has been this way for way too long.