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There ARE cases when it will do this. I was working in the editor and using the keyboard only the few times it happend, and it wasnt too big o deal in the past, but tonight it was painful, after spending a longish amount of time on a preset. Seems that hitting the UP key and then enter, can latch on to a preset and overwrite the one directly above it, without prompting first. I suggest backing up immediately after achieving your target sound.

Helix will probably sound fine thru your fender if you set it up correctly.

It did work thanks.

Kool man thanks. Why do your files come up with an .l6t file suffix? Wont helix only import .hlx files? Maybe a difference between rack and floor model? I dont know.. sheesh you cant take me anywhere :rolleyes:

Music law says "Read this review on TGP" What do you think is more telling? A single story that may even be fiction for all we know or possibly even a line 6 implant? Or all the posts after? and your own ears. Im just sayin. Also: he didnt use any built in cabs, the very thing im addressing here, and what most people have an issue with This sounds pretty good. If you used a stock cab (my very thing here) would you mind providing the preset for comparison? One thing i HAVE noticed that ive been meaning to mention is that Helix DOES seem to play a little better with down tuned guitars...and that makes perfect sense to me why it would. Yeah, especially for what it it...which is just plugging in and turning up the gain. Went to your sit to download that preset so i could make some comparisons,but all i got was one of these Ha! :o Im sure its something im missing. Yeah I know youve already given all the setting information here.

Thats not an accurate statement. The first thing you ask a player is if he is hearing EXACTLY what he wants to from his amplifier. If there are excessive high end artifacts, you deal with it then and there. You cant record it and hope it doesnt show in the mix or tell the player "oh you'll never hear that". The sound you want to hear on the record, is the one you must have coming from your amp. Excessive high frequency information from the guitars causes frequency masking across the cymbals vocals and whatever else may have importance in that range. It absolutely can not be there if its not adding to the instrument sound or overall track. Your guitar is not bad, but it does sound band limited in the top end...so no there wont be fizz.

Yeah, search fizz in the forum. As others have said, it *can* be somewhat dialed out, but who wants to waste their time trying to dial something out that shouldnt be there in the first place? With IRs, y6ou slap on the right one and you spend your time trying to augment an already great sound instead of trying to dial out an annoyance. Bottom line is you can get better sounds than what Helix cabs have to offer. Just a note about monitors. I have at least 6 sets. My working set is extremely high end. My Helix sounds best to most of us, thru a $500 set of Event TR8s. I wont argue about it. Just trying to give the OP all angles to look at. It aint all roses. some posters act like he should spend his money on it with out even thinking about it. I'll let him make up his own mind, and he can attest or deny whether the advice i gave him was reasonable or not.

Some things you may want to know. The majority of folks do not like the native cabs. Especially myself. They are the least favorite of any i own. Including TH3, Redwirez, BIAS, and others. So unless you have a healthy stock of IRs, plan on spending another $100 there. Of course you could scrimp by on less. The mic modelling isnt very realistic either. They all sound like about the same IR, that have been EQ'd a little differently. They dont impart any of the characteristics that the real mic does....and you cant move them left and right so its always that same kind of static blah. You'll find very few if any, real good Helix tones on the net using the native cabs. Esp not high gain. Updates havent been the smoothest around here. The latest update was the first that all of my essentials were covered problem free, but thats just me. Others were still having problems, and it often seems like its more than just a handful of folks.. Helix has a good many descent sounding fx, and they come in handy, but thats not really how good recordings are done on a consistent basis. Fx in any unit are really more for live uses. Tracking with fx not only takes some power out of your hands at mixdown, but getting it right every time you print a track just isnt realistic,,so while having all the fx is great, its not something that is real beneficial in a recording scenario. Helix is finicky and can be hard to get good sound from. I wish i had a dollar from every poster here that asked how to get rid of the fizz or why "it just doesnt sound right". :) A lot of guys, even after a fairly long spell with helix, still seem to be looking for the right combination/set-up, throwing more money at FRFRs, trying alternative hookups to most of the gear they own. Tone chasing in short. Thje IR section comes up a little short. You will have to rename any IRs you import, and in alphabetical or numerical order, so they retain their order when backing up (you back everything up before you update software) or exporting your lists. Its a bit of a hassle. You dont seem to demand a whole lot in your quest, so maybe Helix and a few IRs will get you through. Just a few things to consider, and things id sure want to know pre-sale. Good luck with everything. I hope you find what you are looking for.

Ha! Having never owned a 5150, this is a tone i dialed with no reference, just going by what i thought a 5150 should sound like in my head. I wasnt even really that close :) At least not to the OPs. Ive played a 5150 a while back. I remember liking it. Its been a while though. Though, all moving parts here are 5150. Helix panama, cabs ect. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26654830/5150.wav

You are not hearing sustain. You are hearing feedback. And as far as tone goes, it sounds like he is using a metal pic or something pretty hard. It would help to have the same gear.

Hey thanks for all the help. Sorry to leave you hangin. I doubt it. 4.0.2 No fender collection. At least not installed. Just quit working without any changes Yes, if i understand you correctly. Using A4 with Helix. See post #24 this thread. No, and youre right. My first post was here because i was surprised by the circumstances, and i knew you were having similar hang ups. I probably should have reported it to IK straight away. Ive been gone all day, so first chance i get i will report it.

So, Amplitube4 had worked fine for me for a day or two, and now its like the driver got hung up in Studio One or something, and A4 is now the only program not working. Including A3,which works fine. I have the feeling that a restart could fix the problem, but it seems as if communication between helix and A4 drivers, are questionable at the very least. I accidentally started A4 while Studio One was open, and my guess is that the driver is not equipped to be occupied by both programs (or actually all three - meaning S1, A4, and Helix) at once, which makes sense i guess. Edit: No dice. Restart did not solve the issue.

I would ditch the 2i2 for now and plug your Helix in USB style, and run Amplitube that way. It works slick as lollipops as roscat said. Of course A4 should already be seeing helix drivers, IF you have been plugged in with usb all along...and im betting you have for use of the editor. Unplug 2i2 to avoid any hiccups. (no, i know it shouldnt be necessary, but you dont need it) Heres my settings menu. Notice that the input device is grayed and the actual driver is chose in the output settings tab. On a side note, im pretty sure roscoe is mistaken about a "deeper" setting. A4 should give you the opportunity to choose ANY and ALL drivers available. Of course it has to "see" said driver first. The key here is getting A4 to see the helix driver, and as long as helix has been plugged in by usb and turned on, it should pretty well be automatic.

I dont know....It kind of popped up and went away on its own. I have 4 asio drivers installed on this computer. BIAS for whatever reason wanted to load the asio4all driver, instead of helix. When i tried to select the asio helix drivers thats what popped up. FWIW i have never tried to run these two programs together in this manner. Now the drivers for my other two interfaces i can understand, because those interfaces were not plugged into the computer, but the Helix WAS. My guess is that BIAS didnt see the helix right away and loaded asio4all instead, and then still wasnt recognizing helix asio when i tried to switch. Then weird thing is that this happened a couple of more times, after BIAS had had plenty of opportunity to see helix asio, and did so successfully. (because as you can see by the thread, i couldnt get these two programs to function properly, which lead to a lot of opening/closing programs, rerouting ect..) .........so best i can figure is that there is a bit of a usb lag, and when asio4all driver is the currently selected driver, and then i try to select helix asio, the program sees nothing, instead of helix asio as it should....but what do i know? I'll see if its repeatable a little later.

Oh yeah man, but using a DAW seriously over complicates the matter. Very simple using a standalone program. I DID get it to work. For whatever reason. usb 3/4 doesnt want to work in this sense. It just creates a feedback loop. When i inputted amplitube with usb 3/4 and used usb 5/6 on the outputs it worked perfectly. Maybe it has something to do with the reamping "stipulations".

Man im having a hard time wrapping my brain around this. I didnt try it in A4 yet but I did use BIAS and the same should be possible. I get setting the INPUTS on BIAS to 3/4 and then setting Helix output block to 3/4 so only BIAS can be heard, but what you are doing... im bewildered :) Seems to me that you can set A4 anywhere in the signal path you please, so for instance stupor OD>A4>simple delay>monitors How do you get to the input of A4 after stupor OD? EDIT: You know what? I think i just figured it out :) You would go out to BIAS at the output block of path 1 and back in at path 2? Im a dummy :) EDIT 2: Mehhh maybe not :( I wonder if this is similar?

Marshall JCM800 100 watt heads, and Marshall 4x12 bottoms with Celestion Vintage 30s, also some soldano stuff. ADA pre yes and a Soldano pre yes.

You need to worry more about abandoning the cabs, than the preset. Presets are bad 90% because they have a helix cab attached to them. Load up a preset, switch the cab out with an IR that sounds good to you, tweak a bit, and THEN decide. Try some free IRs from Ownhammer, then maybe some smaller IR packs, of cabs you KNOW you like. Knowing what speaker you like is also a HUGE help. Nobody can tell you which IRs to get. It would be like me telling you what kind of cabinet to buy ala hardware.

Could really use more information on how you are using Helix. I will give you my opinions based on plugging it directly into a soundcard. From an amp tone perspective, it really has not been a great sounding unit. The cabs and mic modelling are VERY poor IMO and without going out and spending more money on products from other companies, such as cab impulses from redwirez, i have seen few happy users and have heard none good guitar sounds. ( im listening for sounds similar to Cantrell, STP, Pornograffitti, Pyromania, or heavier) Buying redwirez cab IR library (or whichever one you prefer) will get you A LOT more from Helix, but then you are mostly using Helix as a distortion device at that point, and thats not really a tough job for a preamp, a pedal, or a computer for that matter. I agree that the presets should do a better job. There is no point in filling up 2 entire banks worth otherwise, but still then, making your own presets, your best amp/cab combinations fully EQ'd, are hardly a faithful recreation of the amps they were modeled after. If you are dead set on not spending any money and continuing to use the native helix cabs, your best is to low pass the highs, try some of the cabs you would never expect, (i think i have an OK heavy tone from one of the 1x12 cabs) use the sum of two cabs, to achieve a sound, instead of just one. Good luck. Looking forward to hearing where this goes for you.

All good here. Got all my missing presets back. (all the ones i checked anyway)

Yeah thanks. I didnt have time to roll back to 2.01 so im not sure how much help i was, but im glad its getting sorted.

Respectfully, im not sure how there could be any confusion at all about what im asking. The thing is, if i thought i could obtain a better quality of sonics, or achieve something my DAW plugins couldnt give me - which is entirely possible - then i would use the helix to mix that track. For me, its all about the sound, and convenience rarely factors in to my decision making. Though, if one were to commit the fx as they track, using Helix very well may simplify the recording process comparative to a DAW ...........and then i also ask myself - could a person that may not want to spend money on plugins, suitably compensate, by processing with the fx on board the Helix.

Im hoping that i have a chance to give this a go over christmas break. I most curious about how the compression sits, and whether or not the verbs can be used to clearly define the appropriate space for the moment. Not to mention the effectiveness of the EQ for both critical correction and light enhancement. Im optimistic. What say yee?

All good here brother. Much love!!

Watched the video. Thanks Mitch. Heres what i know, My two best tones on my POD 2.0 bean are better than my two best tones on my Helix. Something you (or someone else, whatever) mentioned in the video was - "was the Helix worth the upgrade price" . Comparatively speaking for me, it was not. When solely factoring in helix native cabs, i would consider it a downgrade.