CBTL Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Would love one of these on Helix 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideout Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I like that pedal!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Oh. My. Goodness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBTL Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 £149! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erniedenov Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 It obviously does stuff that Helix can't do, but I did stumble on a patch on which I can get most notes to feed back without the gain getting overly muddy. It involves the Achron lead and a Minotaur. Of course this only works live with an amp or powered speaker. Cool that this thing can do that without any amplification! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verne-Bunsen Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I haven't really had pedal GAS since I got Helix, but man that is COOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurston9 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 WANT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanecgriffo Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 there is the little trick with the expression pedal and pitch effect that simulates feedback nicely in some instances. Just gotta remember hiw to do it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnonguitar Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 There must be a way to do this in Helix. Cross patching the loops and using a harmonizer and compression/gain with momentarty switch bypassing everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I've been trying to simulate within Helix (no external speakers), but haven't been able to come close. I can get some great sustain, but no feedback in the digital realm world so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I wonder is Scott got this feedback purely within the digital realm of the Helix... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 About all you can really do, or at least all I've been able to do, is use a pitch wham in combination with a phaser and/or flanger (harmonic is a good one), and tie one or more parameters from each block to the same expression controller. Also, you could use snapshots to get different varieties of feedback. It gives some interesting effects that can be reminiscent of actual feedback, but it's far enough away from the real thing that it's obviously mimicry. On the other hand, the effect can be unique enough to stand on it's own, depending on how it's used. A block in Helix with the capabilities of what's demoed in the video above (1st post) would be absolutely wonderful. Did someone already make an ideascale for this, or something similar? @jbuhajla In the beginning of the video, Scott says the feedback is actual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inveigle Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 They have caught lightning in a bottle with this pedal. It is pure magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specracer986 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I have no problem getting feedback from my Helix at band levels and have been using it as an effect pretty regular. But this pedal takes the feedback control to a new level. This may be the first pedal I've bought since getting the Helix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanecgriffo Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 i'm thinking of someone like hendrix, who could do so much with feedback, morphing it at his whim.. i wonder if you can go anywhere near that with this pedal, it seems it may be a bit more static ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 That guy's fingers are helping that tone too Im thinking. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBTL Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 There is a demo of it being used at NAMM. It alegedly does an ebow thing too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 @jbuhajla In the beginning of the video, Scott says the feedback is actual. Yeah, I saw that after posting. I was hoping he was conjuring some voodoo magic to make that happen, but he is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hefonthefjords Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 ehh, i'll stick with my switch programmed to turn the noise gate off for $0 thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurston9 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 ehh, i'll stick with my switch programmed to turn the noise gate off for $0 thanks. Does that really work? I'd think the gate would be bypassed already once you play a note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hefonthefjords Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 assuming we are playing at gig volume, if your gate is set correctly it's threshold will be set above the level of feedback but below the level of a picked note therefore your sustained note will drop below the threshold of your gate before you achieve useful feedback unless you move closer to your speaker system.to change this interaction i have different gate thresholds set for each of my snapshots depending on how i intend to use that snapshot and then i also have a bypass for the gate programmed for whenever i might want to override it's interference.for example;i play fairly high gain guitar sounds for rhythm parts in a metal band. during the songs i want the tight snappy stops that a gate provides so my snapshot for rhythm parts has a gate with a fairly high threshold on it above the level at which feedback occurs.now say i'm playing rhythm on this snapshot and we get to the end of a song... i want to hit that big chord or last note at the end and have it ring out into feedback while the singer talks some lollipop and introduces the next song. the gate will step in at some point and have that lovely nice musical feedback of that held chord or note will be choked out quite quickly by the gate leaving an embarassing silence.so i just turn the gate off when i want feedback. :)it's worth noting i pretty much exclusively play at gig volume though and this is obviously aimed at those who do not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideout Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Oh yeah we need this thing! Bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaminjimlp Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Check out the Fernandes Sustainer pickup, it is basically an ebow on steroids and has a mode that changes what ever note or chords you are playing to a harmonic.... This kid on YouTube made something that feeds back though the guitar to create a similar effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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