spikey

Sometimes I feel like an iPad, sometimes I feel like a Mac. ; ) Options are always great, so yes Id like an iPad app of Native/editor too.

Unless you have a Kemper ; )

I'm good bud- have a great weekend!

I was kinda "prompted" to do that- if you will read above... Relax... ; ) Oh no I got I your meaning. If you don't see my reason's I said what I said that's ok with me. Peace brother and please read on ; ) Of course. I'm glad they did. What other reason would there be for them? FWIW, and so its clear to those who have not read my praises on Helix- I really like Helix. Tones are great, its the center of my guitar studio pretty much. Love the 4 Aux and buffered out. In fact, the only thing that irked me ( besides no tuner in the editor- kidding ; ) ) is I just didn't like how L6-Link was stripped from what it once was without coming out beforehand and stating what was being removed (not the above things that changed in it because that to me is a run-around) because Helix was not the same circuit wise 1st, that's all. It had to change, or they would have left the programming alone for easiness sake if nothing else. I understand that. I just didn't care for the PR work in explaining the changes, like it was somehow "better", which to me is just crazy. If you've not experienced that in the HD series I can understand your confusion as to why that's such a big deal for me. That's my beef, and ya know what, I can live with it. ; ) Its all good- Best way I can explain it, and altho I have a disagreement with D.I. about how this was all done, thats all ok too. No disrespect was intended (even if I can verbally be just as offensive as the next guy). Peace Brother ; )

Ebay is yer friend!

Agreed. It may be a bit over-kill but It's all doable if you set it up right in Helix. Me too- I have an Extreme and needed it badly LOL. The harmonies even for my vocals are awesome!

LOL ok TRUMP 2020!!!! LOL... It's all good- relax guys... Really. D.I. and I are just having a bit of fun ribbing each other about what happened back then- I'm not mad about anything and I don't believe he is the least bit bothered either. The patch will be here soon, and Helix will be even better than before! So don't leave because of us- Come back Shane!!! ; )

Luv this guy- has some very good video tutorials on Helix via YT.

Well for one she can't lie and neither did I. She probably died from the same BS sauce you've been trying to feed us on how L6-Link wasn't broken lol...

But I like cassette decks! ; ) You know what you had with them, and they hardly ever needed fixing. Keep posting D.I. yer on a roll... ; ) You have missed my meaning litesnsirens. The reason I asked for a list that never existed was that I think it should have. Why? First for all those that missed the Dream Rig setup. You see that list that D.I. posted really does exist and was posted online and in the manual as he stated, but what it and he doesn't state in that list and what was left out (that the HD series had and Helix does not have as much midi control via L6-Link), is by and large huge. And the "work-around" that you had to use MIDI (1982 technology BTW) to control bits and pieces of what it did for Helix versus the HD-Series is, well not quite equal (midi Control Wise) to say the least. So no, I've not regressed at all. Now I'm just having fun as I'm just trying to keep D.I. here longer than he has been in months... ; )

LOL- now that was funny!

Thanks for posting this older info D.I. Also nice to see you posting here more- If I had known digging you would have done that Id have done it a long time ago ; ) Now please post the list made public before Helix was released stating what we actually lost in L6-Link, versus specifically what we had with the HD 500 & Dream Rig setup back then. That's the one I can't seem to locate anywhere and think that should have been listed online and in the manual too (like this one was). If it's not available now then a short number of things that were not listed above "midi control wise" thru L6-Link we had and lost between the two will do. Thanks again! I kid, of course, there is no list like that is there... My thoughts (all jokes aside-) are to release it when it's ready. If it's NOT ready just because summer is here then don't cave to timelines and release it when its a done deal. Just be "sure" and post the "REASON" why it's not out. Don't leave us in the dark (not that you have on this issue). Oh, yea- and add MORE midi Control LIGHTNING BOLTS!!! Thanks.

Oh no Kilrahi its always been fine, there was never anything to fix. ; ) Sure they can change the functionality of any port on Helix via software all they want., as long as we are aware of what it will change on our Helix we install it. Parity? The parity is that it looks the same but does not act the same. Its a port with the same name, and same look/size. What would you assume if you were not told otherwise and then found out that the one on Helix you just purchased was nowhere near as capable as what the HD series port was? We all should have been told beforehand. D.I. is trying to blame the consumer (ME) for complaining about something we were not told about until after Helix was 1st shipped, and then we had issues with. In other words, the L6-Linkport for him isn't the problem, it's my complaining that is. Had they (Line-6) acknowledged that difference before Helix was shipped, I wouldn't have had a horse in this rodeo. AFAIK they didn't. I'm still waiting for the link that says otherwise, and then I will apologize for the outburst.

Lol Nice Try D.I., give u an R for redirection. It's not about what you wrote 3 years ago that is the issue, my friend. Its what you didn't before all those Helix's flew off the shelves in the warehouses... Hey, mistakes happen and its an honest mistake as long as you come clean. ; ) It is also nice to read that Helix has tons more that "could" be done to it. We just remember timeframes on what was said differently I guess. I remember you writing that it just wasn't possible for L6-Link to work the same as in the HD, because of the architecture in Helix versus the HD series, but I remember that being after we asked here what was wrong with Helix and L6-Link, and not beforehand. OTOH it's all good, we both know that 8.2 is gonna be really nice and today for many that is all that matters. Water under the bridge, right? . ; ) Hey tellum to fix the forums too D.I., Id love this as my Sig... ; )

I Yes you did, after Helix was released and we starting asking questions here as to why it was not working like it did on the HD series. I know this because I was one of those asking. And none of the "differences" on L6-Link between the two platforms was here IIRC when Helix was 1st released, or in "any" Sweetwater or Musicians Friend advertizement when Helix 1st went on sale. I agree with you that they are different and that's not my point. My point is why this wasn't stated before Helix hit my doorstep? And I was right here then D.I. and still am here now. You don't have to chase me very far to find me. I'm on reading here almost every afternoon/ evening. If you care to look at numbers I have more posts here than you do. You, however, spend much of your time posting these days on TGP, so whos chasing who around ? ; ) I'm Glad I might have got you to say a few things about the patch HERE for a change, for what its worth. Thanks again for the 2.8 info no matter what we might disagree on that happened in the past. Really, I mean that.

Who is "they" specifically? Id like to know who to praise "specifically" if they release by the end of spring, and who to bad-mouth specifically if they dont... '; )

1st, thanks for the info and update. I appreciate the info as I'm sure others as well do. Back to L6-Link being different in Helix versus the HD series... I don't understand this- that if there is hardly any need for support for the HD series Amps and Helix using L6-Link due to the stated lack of need, why the wasted time in added programming for it then? Page 4—DT25/50 Remote (Off, Per Preset, Global), DT Select (DT 1, DT2, 1+2 Link), DT Channel (A [Helix], B [DT Pre]), DT Topology, DT Power Amp, DT Tube Config Page 5—DT Reverb (Off, On), DT Reverb Mix, DT 12AX7 Boost, DT Feedback Cab, DT B+ Voltage ??? Was it because this was an under-estimated want from the larger than expected DT-Amp user base? That user base would have been even LARGER had we been told earlier it was to be fixed (because like me many people unloaded theirs from seemingly no Helix / DT future support). And, furthermore..., L6-Link has "never" worked fine (come on D.I. you know this is true) compared to the HD-series. And naming it "at release" the same as the HD series L6-Link was without stating it was really different beforehand was "in a nice way of saying this", a mistake in my opinion. They don't "work" the same (and never have without jumping thru some hoops 1st and then it's still limited compared to what's in the HD series), no matter what you say isn't broken. If So then I can just call anything with a "Trademarked" name of something the same thing as the real thing? Kewl- I have 16 Les-Pauls to sell you (their really cheaper Epiphone knock-offs but whos looking at names now eh?). And to the new Helix customer (and esp one like I was that had a Dream-Rig 1st) that's one confusing mind-bender (for some of us anyway) to decide to use the same Trade-marked Line-6 name on the same looking port and have them react in a very different manner! Now here in the south when this kinda stuff happens we call that Bamboozling used car salesman talk, but I didn't say that to be mean. It's just too point out that's how it looks, especially when you say there was nothing wrong with it, to begin with. BTW- I really can't wait to get the patch no matter if or why we disagree on what defines "broken".

Yes thanks, data, that was what I couldn't find. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but this part (to my understanding) suggested to me that L6-Link was repaired and working now as it should be.

We are supposed to be seeing it soon, but as I was told earlier no one "promised" us it would be out this spring, they just stated that was when its supposed to be here. ; )

I assumed and could be wrong in the fact that the 2.8 patch will fix L6-Link. I'd suggested that someone stated that it would be fixed, and can not find where I thought I read that now. I was wishing for this as were others I'm betting. That said, Talk about a play on wording, no- no one ever directly promised it would work the same back then either Phil , yet when Helix was 1st released "no one" (not you, or anyone else stated the differences and yes I was here then too) or said a thing about L6-Link with its SAME "Trademarked" L6-Link name not working like for like, as the HD series DID with the same "Trademarked" name, until we noticed this after purchase, and said so here. Ya know, You also never promised that the Sun would rise the next day either, but it did. One would expect the port to be the same and work the same with the same "Trademarked" name used, wouldn't you Phil? You don't need to answer this with another "it was never promised". I'm not buying the "we never said" argument, and yea I know you don't care lol... ; ) No I'm not bored, I just want 2.8 to fix L6-Link so it will work with my two PowerCab +s correctly without an error in judgment in assuming that the same "Trademarked" names on the same identical ports mean they function the same way dependant on who said what when, when they really don't. Thank GOD Midi wasn't done this way, or a wall plug (or even the washing machine). Tell ya what Phil, maybe I just missed the disclaimer laying In my Helix box stating the differences in the "identical" looking and named L6-Link port between the two units. I'll let you know if I find it and Please forgive if it's in there. ; )

All I know is that it went from " this was done a different way software wise and so we cant make L6-Link work like it used to", to a suggested, "we have 2.8 coming and L6-Link will work like it used to". Altho I appreciate all the hard work (and no disrespect intended) I'll not hold my breath just yet and wait to see what's in this new box of chocolates once its released.

So then it's safe to say that the A to D and D to A conversion/processing is faster in these chips, versus say what a fast "gaming" computer might have in it?

Thanks for clarifying about the chips (in Helix).

I'm thinking that smile on yer face will not wash off for a few months now Craig- grats on yer new family err, guitars!

Well, ya never know until you ask-Good luck!