onurb59 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Might be a stupid question, but anyway... As a gigging musician, I like to prevent some kinds of awkward situations, such as bad cables, dead batteries, all of us know what I mean, and a blown fuse is among the list. So, I try to carry some spare fuses with me. Hence my questions: Is there a fuse in the Helix? Why no external access? Is the waranty lost if I open my unit to check? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanecgriffo Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 i don't know that digital gear has any user-replaceable parts nowadays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onurb59 Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 i don't know that digital gear has any user-replaceable parts nowadays As I'm from the previous century, with tube amps, I just ask! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 It's a modeled fuse...;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 It's a modeled fuse... ;) But a third generation modeled fuse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Well, does the fuse work in Helix like the one on the HD series did, or is this fuse halfway modeled and with much less in the way of protection? ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillBee Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I am still on page 14 of the Axe fuse Vs Helix fuse thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I am still on page 14 of the Axe fuse Vs Helix fuse thread. All I know is the Axe modeled fuse has had 47.3 updates since it was first released. Clearly this makes it a superior product...;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 All I know is the Axe modeled fuse has had 47.3 updates since it was first released. Clearly this makes it a superior product... ;) Thats only because the Fractal forum as one voice asked for and enjoys these updates, and Cliff likes to program like a madman. BTW, theres NOTHING wrong with either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Thats only because the Fractal forum as one voice asked for and enjoys these updates, and Cliff likes to program like a madman. BTW, theres NOTHING wrong with either. Good grief...I have no time for a sarcasm tutorial today. It's marvelous that the Fractal forum has risen as one, and seen their demands met. And if Cliff (whomever he is) loves to code that much, then I guess it's a win-win for everybody. I smell a Disney movie... Truth be told, I don't have a dog in this fight, so I really couldn't care less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillBee Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I get ya C! The real issue is that the Helix has NOT had a fuse emulator update and L6 is refusing to address the issue - check Ideascale its nowhere to be seen. Deal breaker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideout Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 All I know is the Axe modeled fuse has had 47.3 updates since it was first released. Clearly this makes it a superior product...;) Sheesh 47 updates to get it right? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Sigh, so another wasted post, time lost and nothing learned. Next time bring a bigger dog or better fuse. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideout Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 There's probably one inside the Helix. Either that or there's one in the IEC receptacle... those aren't easy to see or access in my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Sheesh 47 updates to get it right? lol If at first you don't succeed, redefine success...;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillBee Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Spikey: That would be "fuse emulator". BTW for the OP don't open that Chassis as usually doing so voids the warranty. Even if you know It I had to say it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Spikey: That would be "fuse emulator". Lol at this thread. I had no idea they're able to emulate fuses already! I've heard Line 6 can only do simulations. :( Damn. Buyer's remorse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 You have heard about the emulated LGBT current that gets loose at times and blows all the fuses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 You have heard about the emulated LGBT current that gets loose at times and blows all the fuses? Woah... what a transient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaminjimlp Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Spikey: That would be "fuse emulator". BTW for the OP don't open that Chassis as usually doing so voids the warranty. Even if you know It I had to say it. When a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it does it make any noise? So if the cover comes off the Helix and nobody is there to see it does it void the warranty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaminjimlp Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 And if Line 6 can Model An incandescent light bulb why not a fuse and dose each amplifier model have it's fuse accurately modeled within it? Enquiring minds want to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaminjimlp Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I know this thread has not been a waste of time at all I actually got a pretty good chuckle out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 When a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it does it make any noise? So if the cover comes off the Helix and nobody is there to see it does it void the warranty? There are usually seals that are broken when you open the chassis so if you do open it, Line 6 can tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Seals? I didnt know that there were animules inside of Helix... With fuses ... Wow... :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvay Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 There are three different fuses marked F1, F2 and F3. Not modelled ones. I've been playing around with trying an old stock of fuses I've collected and I've found an old Philips from the 60s is superb. Gives the Helix so much more depth and clarity. I did try playing around with F3 but I went back to the original fuse as it sounded the best. YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glideman Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 My Kemper has tons and tons of profiled fuses... But I like the quality and flexibility of the fuses that Helix emulates... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 There are three different fuses marked F1, F2 and F3. Not modelled ones. I've been playing around with trying an old stock of fuses I've collected and I've found an old Philips from the 60s is superb. Gives the Helix so much more depth and clarity. I did try playing around with F3 but I went back to the original fuse as it sounded the best. YMMV. I keep my stockpile of Woodstock-era fuses with all my other important stuff...right there next to my collection of used bandages, and the jar of toenail clippings I've been saving since I was 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillBee Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I am about to call Shenanigians! We know Cruisinon2 has a hairdoll collection but no-one keeps a used bandage collection next to toenail clippings - no-one. :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I am about to call Shenanigians! We know Cruisinon2 has a hairdoll collection but no-one keeps a used bandage collection next to toenail clippings - no-one. :angry: Hey...I like my dolls! ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillBee Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Antiques Road Show -> folk art section is calling. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strabes Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Back on topic, I wouldn't worry about that. Even on my old tube amps I never had mains fuses blow, only the high voltage fuses that protect against damage if a power tube goes out (and as a result draws a ton of current). Keeping a few spares in my bag has saved me several times over the years, even though I'm still a relatively young guy. Plus, I would not want to unscrew all the screws on the back of the helix and try to do "open heart surgery" on the helix during/before a gig. I just keep a backup flyrig 5 handy at all times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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