PeterHamm

Dude, I got some exposure to an AX8 last week. Don't sell it. It's freakin' awesome. Big fan.

I wouldn't bother. It's SO stinkin' easy to do this on the unit. It's just sheer genius UI design.

http://line6.com/support/manuals/helix

if I were you, I'd write a strongly worded letter...

All the guys who've been drooling over wondering about what's new just wet their pants. All the guys who JUST sold their Helix because it doesn't have scenes just crapped themselves...

Give 'em a few minutes. They'll catch up.

If you can't do it with Snapshots, it ought not be attempted in any form or fashion whatsoever.

For those who'd rather have a video than read the manual.

Scenes... schmeens... Go here now. http://line6.com/software/ NOW!!!!! 2.0.

I bet it's SUPER high on their list!

Complex? YES! (that's a good thing.) There are 8 different ways to do the same thing, none are necessarily wrong, and once you learn it, it is just super easy to navigate.

Sure... you have X/Y states for all your pedals and X/Y states for your amp (it can be two totally different amps, btw, but only one at a time in AX8). Scenes turns any or all pedals on/off in X or Y, changes between amp states, and if you set it up so that the bottom row is scenes and the top row is pedals, you can also turn pedals on or off separate from changing scenes or in addition. It's very well-thought out. But... ...right now, WITHOUT scenes functionality, I can do probably 90% or more of that functionality in Helix as it stands today, to be honest. I've created patches with 2 different amps, and a footswitch to go between two different states of those amps, and switch between them, then I have the ability to turn on and off a bunch of different pedals and can vary those states with a footswitch or expression, too... for me, I can already do WAY more than I need most times with just one patch now. "Scenes" would be a different way to do it, and as it is implemented on AX8 is a very very cool feature. How Line 6 does it if they do it could be totally different, though, since they seem to like to go their own way.

It took me a couple weeks to really master HD 500. It took me a couple hours to not need my Helix manual anymore. No learning curve to speak of. Ridiculously easy to use...

I got to see how scenes works the other night on AX8. Extraordinary!

I think that Fractal and LIne 6 have, separately, come to the same conclusion about this. If you put a bunch of horsepower into the unit, you can either have it over-achieve in terms of number of blocks and flexibility, or you can hold back a bunch of that power so that you can have smooth trails. They probably ran the numbers and figured out that more people will buy the unit if you do the former than the latter, and designed accordingly. Also, the amazing flexibility of Scenes on the Fractal products... do you REALLY think that Line 6 won't answer that since it's the most often requested feature as far as I can tell? I wonder if, when they do, a lot of folks won't be re-ordering Helices to replace the ones they sold or returned... That said... choose what works for you. After comparing Helix to AX8 the other night, both are such awesome solutions you just can't go wrong.

I used to do that, but found that I generally like volume control to NOT affect amp/distortion pedal gain. I use my guitar volume control for that.

This is a GREAT solution. I used to do this on HD 500. I don't do it on Helix because I never run out of blocks.

I think it depends on the IR as well. I made some from Mama Bear that end up needing to be between -6 and 0db. They're normalized, but I suspect that some of the stuff that's out there is more compressed and therefore needs the lower level.

Actually, now that I've seen AX8 up close, most single "scene"-style specialness can really be approximated with Helix as it stands today. X/Y states for an amp? Yup. Easy. Just set up two amps and switch between them. X/Y states for an FX block? ditto. multiple on/off commands with one footswitch? Easy. I hope that something like scenes is coming, but actually, I don't need it to make 1, 2, 3, or even maybe 4 very different sounds in one patch. The only processors that can do gapless preset switching are far inferior, technologically, to the stuff that's available now.

Not an error, merely a feature that isn't in there yet. It's been requested by EVERYBODY, so you know it's probably going to come eventually, but if you can't wait for it, I think Line 6 understands. The AX8 is pretty sweet, so you're likely to not be disappointed.

No way I'll ever set intonation with anything but a Strobe tuner ever again. It's why I keep my Strobostomp2 around.

I was BLOWN AWAY by one of the Glenn DuLaune patches for lead the other night. Not my thing, but it might be yours. At the very least, they are super cheap, and they will give you a starting place to work from, unless your unit is defective or doing something wacky. I've had nothing but joy with all the sounds from Helix myself. btw, get a stereo cable and get that P22 rockin' acoustic and electric at the same time, bro!

If you don't have one block left to just stick in a mono gain block, though... what kinda patch are you MAKIN'???

One of the reasons I use built-in cabs... (runs and hides...) :ph34r:

I still say everybody wins.