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Oh dude, im so sorry. I did not ,and could not see "none" :ph34r:

Thanks Phil...Maybe a bit of a different thing. Im not talking about the function that dictates WHICH controller it is linked to, but the step before that that defines whether or not the values are linked at all. Alt+click "arms" the function, or deems it ready for use. Then by default, the user can change the value of that parameter, via the snapshot menu. Yes you can right click on it to choose a different controller, but in my case we need nothing more than to be linked to snapshots. In all past editor versions, to opt back out of that menu entirely, so that NO controller including snapshots is "armed", alt+shift+click would undo what the previous alt+click did in the first place, or "DIS-arm" the linked parameter, or said yet another way, remove the brackets/parenthesis from the value of any parameter. :unsure: :blink: That function is no longer there and is not only imperative but was perfectly implemented for ease of use. Appreciate your input. I hope that makes more sense. Alt+click "arms" the function, then user has to decide whether that should

I can only assume it was un intended since i didnt see anything in the release notes. Is there any way to do it in the editor at all now?

Title says it all. I cant really think of any logical reason to change this somewhat predictable and efficient process. Ive tried most i could think of. How do we remove the parenthesis when needed? Why change the process?

I think you may be missing his point. He doesn’t mean “no-brainer“ in the sense that it’s an easy implementation. I think he means it in the sense that it’s one of those things that goes without saying. ... or this is one of those things that we shouldn’t even need to discuss. This is as fundamental to helix as control clicking your presets or list of IRs. It should already be there, in theory. Now, we all get that it may be easier said than done, and DD brings up a great point in that it will probably need to be an accessible option on the unit itself ,before it can become a reality in the editor. But if it’s not going to cause a second order melt down, then go for it. Why not. We are still missing some pretty obvious stuff with helix. Things have really come along way in my almost 2 years with the unit, but I think it’s only fair to admit that there is a little ways to go, to reach maturity.

Kool man. Congrats. It might be important to note that you'll have to have some patience. Sometimes the sound doesnt jump right out of the box at you.If youre getting it on a 30 day trial, use your christmas vacation to put it thru its paces at every scenario possible. Run it into your tube amp, studio monitors, more than one set of monitors, ect.... What style or type of sound are you shooting for? Do you have any IRs?

Since weve talked, i still havent been able to make this thing work consistently. Trying like hell, but i think ive got it working *OK* in one preset. :unsure: Although the OCD works pretty good for some of my presets, it is nothing like the real pedal, which i have heard conflicting information prior to digging deep in to it. Cali IV rythm 1 preamp - It doesnt always work but when it does its awesome and maybe my favorite "drive pedal" As of the more traditional, my most used in order of most to least used are - Minotaur - for a nice balanced tone. this pedal just makes things sound finished to my ears Teemah - for pre gain EQ control and tone shaping Stupor OD - for thick cutting mids OCD - extra distortion for amps with good tone but a little short on gain Scream 808 - good for unwanted flabby low end Kinky Boost - for making it phatter I dont know....They all have their moments. Even Hedgehog D9, Vermin and Top secret. KWB and Valve driver are the two that i struggle with most....and any of the Fuzzes. ( I guess ive just always been drawn to tighter tones) Though KWB with the lower gain Matchless works really well for me in a preset or two.

Give it a try man.

No but there are workarounds. You can have two amps in a preset and bypass the one you are not using, and then turn it on and bypass the other when its time to switch gears.

Snapshots are different from presets in that they are used to navigate INSIDE a SINGLE preset. This allows the user to change any effects they see fit (not amps and cabs though), without having dropouts in sound during changes. Where as if the user was to change sounds by changing presets, there would be a noticeable dropout until the preset has had time to change to the next....which would be a PITA live.

Not sure if the first two parts of your post were supposed to be questions or not....but no thats exactly what i said, Helix does not allow you to control click (highlight) a set of blocks. It will only allow a user to highlight one block at a time. Exactly. Often i think "man these fx would sound good on my Witchburner preset"....and quite often i'll have 4 blocks in my fx chain....say two mono flangers, a delay, and a reverb. You can only imagine what kind of effort goes into getting those 4 effects from point A in one preset to point B in another preset. If those 4 blocks could be highlighted, copied, pasted, at once....ive always thought that would be a help. My point here though is, you should be able to copy whatever blocks you want. Not simply ALL or ONE. I know you get it Joe. Just figured id clarify for the next guy.

Copy multiple blocks. Not a path. Just the blocks you want...and if that happens to be an entire path, well then yes. Control click to highlight more than one block, then copy. I cant count the number of times ive had a delay chorus and verb setting i wanted to copy to another preset. Just wanting to copy the fx of one preset to another. It can be a bit time consuming.

Im going to say you are dead on. A single preamp tube isnt going to make much difference at all. I mean it can, but this isnt really the proper application. Poweramp tubes would be the thing, which would offer a whole host of problems, but they'd do a much better job of "refining" the original sound..... and then at that point you may as well call it a tube amp. It makes more sense to simply run it into a tube poweramp if thats the sound you want. lol that number might be a little high because what i see a lot of, are dudes who looooove giving themselvs a pat on the back.

I dont know if you use IRs as often as I do. I have MAYBE two worthwhile presets using hlx cabs, so IRs are very important to me. So much so that i feel its the only thing making Helix useable for my needs. The reason that i asked for an explanation was because this issue seems to have gone on completely ignored since 1.04. I mean ive seen absolutely NOTHING. Now i dont frequent gersluts and the like, so if it was said elsewhere, i aint gonna see it. Point is, it seems like a pretty simple implementation that a lot of us have been asking for- for a long time.

Yeah but the OP is right. You should just be able to grab them...and i think you can somewhere? He may already have installed 2.30 and not feel like messing with it, and doesnt want to take the chance on a bad (re) install. I get it.

Just more effort before....and then like all fx inside helix, once you made your selection, the menu would close. In the editor, it was necessary to reach for the mouse each time to re- open the snapshot menu before a choice could ever be made. Still need the mouse in hand to click from 6 to 7. More steps. Now once you are in, you are simply making choices....and in the fastest, easiest way possible. Just bump the mouse wheel done.

Dont know what else needs to be said here. Just posting to support the OP/thread. Not sure why after 2 years, this is still an issue? Can we at least have some sort of explanation here?

New finding.....In my initial post it was said that control + number engaged that snapshot, so for instance cntrl +7 was snapshot 7, just finding now that the snapshots can be auditioned simply by scrolling thru them. Thats huge for me.

Better yet just load L6 Elektrik from the Amp+Cab blocks, because as soon as you switch the cabinet the ripple control stops working. EDIT: No it doesnt quit working....It just turns it into the bias control or something lol...Oh boy.

Half the problem is line 6 and their bugs. The ripple control doesnt even work half the time. Listen, if you want to hear the ripple control working, load up line 6 elektrik and load a darkish sounding IR with that amp. Crank the ripple parameter. Play some single note stuff higher up the neck. G minor pentatonic on the 15th fret will be perfect. If the effect is not completely evident to you at that point, something is not working right for you. It should sound a bit like a low level harmony or octaver.

Owned plenty of those guitars over the years. Liked them a lot so i ordered an M2500 without hesitation. After a few days of playing it just sounded cheap. So much so that i decided there must have been a flaw in the build and sent it back. Re-ordered - sent that one back too. Came to the conclusion after playing/two and hearing a 3rd that they are just not a good sounding bass....On one hand at $750 we are talking about a fairly cheap product, so maybe i shouldnt be surprised or i was overly critical. On the other i have another $400 bass and have owned others at a lower price point, that sounded much better than the G$L. So my experience varies quite a bit from yous.

Duncann, im not really trying to refute your statements or change your way of thinking. I just felt it was necessary to quote somebody and since you started the ball rolling in this direction, and were one of the first posts, i guess it just ended up being you by chance. I think you guys are looking at this the wrong way when speaking about the helix EQs. Even though you have jump points of 10 hertz, you are only ever 5 hz away from any given frequency worst case, and at Q of 10, the difference between 270Hz and 275hz is not going to be audible for most (like 99.9%).. at a Q of 1.6 which is a more practical scenario, there is probably about a 0.05db difference compared to the frequency that is not present or unobtainable, so youre really not missing much. Infact its pretty well inaudible. Especially in a live setting. In a studio setting its even less of an issue. The fact that most guitar dedicated EQs in their upper octaves are most often PRESET at 1k 2k 4k 8k OR 800hz 1.6k 3.2k 6.4k underscores this point. This is generally a deep enough level of control, Above 1000, you arent going to find many, if any, parametric EQs that provide you further detail. Any further beyond what helix offers already, is unnecessary and would only be useful in correcting severe tonal imbalances , and those which rarely occur in guitar modeling. I can see how it would bug some people. It even bugs me, but the fact is that being able to point all the missing frequencies is going to do very little to benefit your guitar sound....but then again i cant see any worthwhile reason that these increments should even be missing. Esp in the digital realm.

The guitars are double tracked but thats just part of recording any guitar tone.

DunedinDragon, on 07 Dec 2017 - 05:52 AM, said: Well yeah...It IS important, but it doesnt change anything. It doesnt have any impact on the matter. They are what they are. Defining their origin simply doesnt have any purpose in my view. Not to mention thats probably the third time ive heard it said exactly like that. :) Jos_K, on 07 Dec 2017 - 07:57 AM, said: I wont disagree with you because i dont know what youre up to over there, but most often as of late, i see guys wanting to copy sounds, and not much of going after a sound in their head,so i guess it depends on what the challenge is. What i do know is that there are sounds that hlx cabs are simply not capable of getting. Maybe with a bunch of sussing around, a bunch of added EQ time, and/or tone matching capabilities you may get there, but who wants to spend their time doing that? Heres one that ive no luck at all in reproducing without IRs. How about you? Want to give it a shot? https://www.dropbox.com/s/afwfhcue3xq3cqf/fooled%20test.wav?dl=0 You cant simulate the outboard gear used, the engineer, their room, their mics, or all of the other factors that make IRs sound different from one another (not effectively anyway in the sense we're talking about ) This is why there is room in your library for the same cab from redwirez and ownhammer, because they sound different. Sounds DO vary in quality. A lot of us just happen to believe that hlx cabs are on the bottom end of the chain.

No offense but im not sure what point that makes other than to say "hey all you guys saying you prefer IRs to hlx cabs, are effectively using IRs, when you employ the use of a Helix cab. i think that the bigger point here is evident in that a lot of us just dont think helix cabs sounds good nor do they hold a candle to the better 3rd party IRs. respectfully.