talwilkins

I would go DT25. You won't believe the improvement in tone. You are allready playing all the things in you band with the guitars you have, The JTV is more ove a convenience thing than improvement on your sound. Still, go get the JTV as soon as you can after getting the DT25

In my latest setup I'm usin the Park 75 for a clean sound (drive 13). It's really warm and crispy. I have a Lex Bos Superdrive in the effects loop (insanely beautiful tube drive from Holland). HD500X is connected to my DT25 I have never had such good tones before!

Dimension is a chorus based on the Roland dimension D. I really like it. Don't care for the other chorus effects in de HD500 either

Have you checked the Dimension? It's a nice chorus in my opinion.

As far I know, you can make a dual amp patch and assign both to an effect switch (say FS1). Then, if you turn one amp off and the other on, FS1 will toggle the amps. You will need to turn the bypass volume to 0 on both amps. You can do that when the amp is turned of (Channel volume becomes bypass volume). This way FS1 effectively becomes an A/B switch.

I kind of had the same problem. Mixed results, mostly not satisfactory in the mix with the band. Then I started using dual cab tones and all was good. Try starting from these I found (that's what I did) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19157447/dualCabs.h5s

This one is indeed perfect! It has a thick furry lining and Styrofoam in the top. Fits like a glove!

IF IT SOUNDS GOOF IT DOESN"T MATTER HOW YOU GOT THERE Yes, that is the highest truth when it comes to builiding tone :ph34r: Therefore my question is not about what's right but about your experiences and conclusions. Maybe yo found that certain amps sound better to you in full mode. If so which amps were they and why? Which did you think sounded better in pre amp mode and why? That's the info I'm after. In the end myown ear will Judge my own tone but it could help me to get some new idea's in the quest for the perfect tone (in my ears).

Yes, I know. That's why I never tried it in the first place. I tried it now out of curiosity and I get the feeling it's an improvement. The patch needs some extra tweaking after changing the amps to full, of course. I'm just wondering if other players have tried it and what they think of it.

Is there anyone using full amps with their HD500(X) and DT-25 or DT-50? I had great trouble finding great high gain sounds at high volume on this combination. After a long search for great tone I ended up using double cab tones with a Line6 drive in front of the amps (drive to 0). This finally gave me some really great high gain tones that held up at gig volume. Even though I was really happy with the tones I naturally went on trying to improve them anyways. Now I am experimenting with using the full amps instead of pre-amps and it seems to me the amps come to life even more this way. At rehearsal it also seemed to hold up. Does anybody have any experience using full amps at gig volume? What are your finding?

If the price is right I would love to have these! Now I stick text lables to my HD500

I'm using Tung Sol at the moment and they sound great. I have a spare pair but I hope they hold out a while

Since the last update of the POD HD500X I put Master between 1 and 2 o' clock. I then use the maser on the POD to Get the overall volume I need. For leveling the patches out I use different approaches: Channel Volume, Mixer, Effects Loop I tend to use the mixer when on stage or in the rehearsal room because you can use the small knobs. With these you can simply take the volume down or up a bit without having to worry about where the knob is set. With the channel volume you can get a nasty surprise when you want to adjust the volume of a patch with say a JCM800 after adjusting the volume of a patch with a Super O. As soon as you touch the knob the CJM800 patch volume will jump to full volume and believe me that's no fun :D Actually I wish all the knobs worked like this. oh well.

Good idea!

Yeas, that's another thing. On the Fender models the Drive knob works more as an extra volume knob and doesn't give any distortion to speak of (I think). This is because the original amps don't have a drive knob.

I haven't tried these settinings on my DT25 but to me it looks OK. What you need to understand is that the volume knob is like the channel volume on the POD HD. This changes the volume without changing the tone. The different Amp sims on the DT have very different volume levels ans you can use the volume knob to even things out. Voicing 1 is a Fender Twin I think (maybe a deluxe). Voicing 4 is a Mesa Boogie which is way louder than the Fender (I believe this to be the case in real life as well), With voicing one you would typically set the volume knob to full position. If you would then have voicing 4 on channel B you would probably have the volume knob there below 50% to match the volume of channel 1.

I have the Line6 Drive on permanently with Drive on or near zero. This is to have a mono effect in that position at all times. You can use any mono effect. A noise gate will do without coloring the sound. I use the Line6 drive because I like how it colors the tone (sort of like an EQ). Of course you could also toggle the effects, like you suggested. Any way, that leaves 4 effects for the 4 footswitches in my case. The effects loop is indeed for external effects. I have a Zoom G5 in there for delays, Exciter, EQ and boost (tube).

I have been struggling to get my DT-25 HD500X combination sound satisfactory to my taste for a long time. Especially the high gain tones just didn't come out well at the rehearsals at high volume. At home they sounded great. They even sounded good without the band at high volume. As soon as I played with the band it just didn't cut through and sounded like mud or just plain screetching noise. A few months ago I made a breakthrough with the help of some double cab patches I downloaded a long time ago. Now the high gain tones are fantastic IMO! Now I make all my DT patches in a similar way. Just remember, you have to have some mono effect in front of the signal split turned on. This could also be a noise gate for instance (I use the Vintage Pre for my clean tone). What makes this really great is that you can blend the sounds of different amps/mics/cabs. For recording I make similar patches with full amps. Using this setup also seems to solve the phasing problem for me.

Sorry, my bad. I am using the POD and of course have the ZOOM in its effects loop not the DT's :unsure:

Interesting. I'm thinking of getting me a Lex Bos Superdrive pedal. They are totally amazing!

Just recorded something via XLR in Low Volume Mode and in Standby. I have a ZOOM G5 in the effects loop. The effects from the ZOOM were part of the signal, no doubt about it.

So, how is the POD reacting to the distortion pedals in front of it? No clipping? What amp models do you use?

I have been struggling to get my DT-25 sound satisfactory to my taste for a long time. Especially the high gain tones just didn't come out well at the rehearsals at high volume. At home the sounded great. They even sounded good without the band at high volume. As soon as I played with the band it just didn't cut through and sounded like mud. A few weeks ago I made a breakthrough with the help of some double cab patches I downloaded a long time ago. Now the high gain tones are fantastic! Now I make all my DT patches in a similar way. Just remember, you have to have some mono effect in front of the signal split turned on. This could also be a noise gate for instance (I use that for my clean tone). For recording I make similar patches with full amps. Using this setup also seems to solve the phasing problem for me.

I have a Zoom G5 in the HD loop. Works really great! The tube boost is really sweat.

Yes, I can imagine. The nice thing about this concept is that more and more people would create great tones and make them available. Then more and more people would vote on the quality of the tone. Theoretically the tones will become better and better through time. It's a social media type arrangement. Actually quite interesting. I'm curious how it will evolve.