pipelineaudio1
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Without a doubt VSTs can potentially be WORLDS better than the insides of these units....potentially. As you surmised, they can be fanatically anal about a single aspect. Onqel in particular has proved his worth I'd say About the bitrcrusher thing. I hate to be committing Helix blasphemy, but to me there IS a bitcrusher type of sound in the amps themselves. I know, I know, burn me at the stake, but some of the models, used in some ways can really show this. If you want to make a pathological signal chain, you can really hear it. I'm not surprised if certain other processes used in tandem will show it off more than others, but I do believe that the sound you are hearing is actually present in there, though probably in levels not normally enough to worry about, but give it the right chain of events and it becomes apparent, in a way that several VST amp models don't create (but in a way that some indeed do)
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Hoping the firehawk isnt totally abandonware. That would be sad, it has so much potential
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Even the chromatic one goes goofy? Or the harmonizer one does too? I think I've only tried going up, like a third and a fifth, after the amp but before the cab, those seemed fine, but I think I've had a lifetime of paranoia with the 3000 making me scared to every play anything fast if it has a harmonizer on it...,Worse since I play scalloped guitars
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I just tried the effect called "simple pitch" and though it didnt have any exposed formant controls, it didn't really do darth vader or munchinkinization, seems like it would be ok for the things digitech drop does...I need to play with this more, seems handy! especially for singers who you need to retune for
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Ahh, wouldn't you use a different chromatic pitch shifter for that though? Its not something you'd want or need a harmonizer for I would think. Is there a pitch model on the Helix with formant shifting?
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As opposed to what? Harmonizing chords? Good luck doing that on the h3000....Only tech that I know of that even would think about something like that, in theory and not in the real world would be Melodyne's DNA
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Can you try this free Rat VST from TSE and see how it does compared to the Helix version in front of that amp? https://www.tseaudio.com/software/tseR47 Since these plugins will be external to each other, you might well really run into actual gain staging issues, but hopefully it will shed some light and you will be able to communicate with Line 6 some apples to apples experiments and results. I don't know how responsive they are, but at least you can certainly say you've done due diligence and the ball will be in their court to make things right (if indeed things are wrong)
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That's exactly what any harmonizer is supposed to do. Play two different notes at once into an amplifier, its a totally different effect than two guitarists playing two different notes thru two different chains. If you want single notes and single note harmonies, each has to have its own distortion block in parallel, or you get the same as playing a chord into a single distortion block
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Like what? Eventide still doesn't really have their own Harmony algos in VST last time I checked. The free Pitchproof is cool, but doesn't track any better than Helix, and eats a fair bit of CPU and takes a lot lot lot of RT CPU time, the really latent ones are out of the question. Antares Harmony engine is just asking to crash your computer. Amplitube has an ok one, but again, latency. I'm always on the hunt for a good harmonizer on the PC, its kind of a holy grail, I'd love to know one that works better than the Helix harmonizer
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Well, there goes my credibility I guess...I better go take all my RIAA plaques off my walls Honestly, the tracking speed on the Firehawk (nevermind the Helix, which if anything is probably better) puts the H3000 and DSP4000 speeds to shame, painfully slow. I can't get that crazy, rich, glass peeling high out of Helix Native that I can out of a h3000, but I haven't tried too terribly long. Hearing the note and the harmony as I play it rather than the noticeable delay on the 3000/4000 more than makes up for it. Also, pitch detection seems to be a lot better to me. Nearly perfect if I do the harmony before the amp, and certainly acceptable if used after the amp but before the cabinet. If I get a chance, I'll try and make a video comparing the harmonizer on all four units Its not like I'm silent about bozo mistakes Line 6 makes, in any way shape or form
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Here's automating Helix native preset changes in REAPER using events in the MIDI editor
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For now, you could save each preset you like AS a preset in REAPER and then use PC changes to change that, though its kind of convoluted and likely would require SWS MIDI to ReaControl Path plugin to do it easily under automation. Inspired by the Helix's snapshot features, I started switching the REAPER Live Pedalboard Project from SWS Live Configs to LBX Stripper, which may have a way to natively automate the presets, I'll ask https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=182233
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Color me 100% unsurprised that the removal of a mic preamp that costs less than 100 dollars a channel could change for the better: distortion, signal to noise ratio, self noise, bandwidth and frequency response
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You can put it after an amp, I'm surprised how well even the firehawk version tracks...Just don't dare put it after the cabinet! That's poison
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It definitely sounds great and works great as is. I just don't see the need to stand in the way of it getting better. Its software. It can be made better. We certainly, when buying devices of this sort we (almost, but not quite always, as we have seen even these dealt with in some products) accept the hardware limitations with the understanding that the software limitations can be dealt with.
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I understand there are workarounds, but in product development terms, this is time for the first major update, if not actually just the beta testing time. Its like they stopped it in alpha. The DSP available in this thing is pretty comprehensive, there is no reason other than marketing not to get this to an incredible level and keep selling these units for the foreseeable future. I can see not wanting it to compete with the Helix, but you could still easily cripple the Firehawk enough to make the Helix desirable and still have a much more powerful Firehawk
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Since theres no output volume per preset except the amp volume, and the fixed compressor cannot do negative gain, its a HUGE hinderance...then again, you can just bypass it, but....Really after a product has been on the market for a bit, you learn excactly what could be done with it and that's when you do a meaningful update. Its sad to think this may end up like the Amplifi, as abandonware, when there is so much amazing potential in it
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I was actually going to start this exact topic. Kind of sad, the Firehawk actually sounds really good, but its routing issues feel like alpha versions, showing the promise that later development would bring. The drivers could use updating to be as good as the 2009 Pod XT Live drivers as well.
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helix Joystick not working (pushing or selecting)
pipelineaudio1 replied to pininon's topic in Helix
Its an expensive risk to take for sure...but in my case, the patches will be programmed, and they will be programmed so that there is one set of outs with no cab emulation for onstage guitar amps and another set of outs with the cab on for PA. I'm hoping that will deal with any and all situations. I know being able to change some global EQ would be nice, but I'm not super duper concerned about that one. As long as their tuners and switching still work, I should be ok. The other option is to send them out with my computer setups, but I figure thats a step up in complexity and a step down in reliability -
I remember some dsp allowing part of the dry signal through. That immediately came to mind when you said phase. Not sure if that’s the issu here exactly how line 6 does the distortion, whether straight waveshaping or some other setup might be at the heart of it. I’ll see if there’s any experiments I can do
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What do you think the speaker models are, if not IR options (at least functionally)?
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US retail return laws actually a negative for music
pipelineaudio1 replied to lawrence_Arps's topic in Helix
I'm still cracking up. 5 years ago, the internet was filled with posts screaming "why can't the USA be like Europe and A/NZ with guaranteed return laws in effect, comeon america, stop being so third world" When I saw this title, and first posted, I thought it meant our laws had changed and there were laws forcing companies to take returns now...Which would have still been hilariously ironic But this, this seems to be epic fail -
helix Joystick not working (pushing or selecting)
pipelineaudio1 replied to pininon's topic in Helix
I'm looking to buy Helix LTs for all of our kids' bands for our school. This joystick issue is frightening, but will it have any effect on programming from the editor? I don't want them programming stuff directly on the unit anyway -
awesome!!! Ill be on the lookout for spiders then
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Just tested though, the firehawk works well as a MIDI controller...and really, if you only want to use the computer for parallel FX it works OK as an interface, although, like the AMplifi, it has horrendous Round Trip Latency compared to the Pod ASIO drivers, in parallel that shouldn't matter much.
