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Wait, what? The auxiliary setting is for streaming music to play along to. Is that what you're trying to do? To make that work, you need a stereo TRS to dual TS mono cables. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00ZKM3S4S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_2P-SCbCKRXCMJ
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You can also connect it to the volume of the preset's main output volume.
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It can't be that because he said he went to a different Helix and it did the same thing.
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Why in the name of Bob would you even want to do this? What possible advantage is there in doing the above setup vs. going from Helix directly to your monitors?
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helix Tube preamp pedal + Helix Floor + Powercab 112 advice
Kilrahi replied to jordimbrinkman's topic in Helix
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Yeah, as a Stomp user who has messed with the full stuff, I can't get my mind out of thinking in block starvation mode. lol
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helix Tube preamp stompbox with Helix and Powercab advice
Kilrahi replied to jordimbrinkman's topic in Firehawk
You stuck this in the wrong forum. To answer your question though, no one can possibly know how you'll react to doing that. For example, your complaint makes zaro sense to me. If I can't even understand where you're coming from, how can I possibly answer whether or not you'll like a different approach? I'm not at all your audience though . . . .I wouldn't take your tube amp if you gave it to me (well, okay, I WOULD - then I'd sell it). You're this far in though - why not try it? Then if it all sucks return it. Go back to what you know, and go back to what you like if it doesn't work, but it can't hurt to try it when you already have half the gear in your possession.- 1 reply
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This is an annoying error that happens sometimes. Log out of the app and log back in. It should then work.
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To me, the easiest way is to split your signal into two paths right after your preamp. So it would look like: Single signal chain >>>> Split into Path A & Path B Path A >>> adjust the final output of path A to be "1/4" Path B >>> add cab sim or IR of your choice + any additional post cab effects you may want. Adjust final output of path B to be "XLR."
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Interesting setup. As I understand it, the line out box won't send any of the HX signal back into the 4x12 dry the way you currently have things setup. The way you describe it is a very traditional approach, and for it to work no magic signal chain is needed. Connect the HX effects to the line out box, the power amp to the main outs of the HX effects, and create a desired wet signal which will then be pumped out the 2x12s. However, it's not the way I would personally do it because I would want to be able to use the HX Effects distortions and have them be a part of the 4x12 and not just the 2x12s. If you were to use distortions, compressors, or wahs in your current setup, they would only impact your wet signal and happen after the coloring of the Friedman. The easiest way to change this for your setup would be to treat it a bit like a four cable method. So: 1. Guitar in to HX Effects. 2. HX effects FX send 1 into Friedman Runt 50 guitar in. 3. Line out Box FX output to HX Effects Return 1. 4. HX Effects main left and right outputs to Carvin Power Amp. You'll want to make sure each send/return is set to the appropriate line/instrument setting or it will sound like hot garbage - I think your line out box reduces its output to instrument level, so you should be able to set everything at instrument, but, I could be wrong. The easiest signal chain will look like this and will be single path: Pre Amp Effects Blocks (i.e. the ones you want to be a part of all outputs and to happen prior to the coloring of the Friedman Run) >>> FX send Return Block >>>> Post amp wet effects (these are the ones you only want to have in the 2x12s). If I have envisioned all of your ins and outs correctly, setting it up like this should give you a great wet/dry/wet right with pre Friedman dry effects happening before the FX send/return block, and post Friedman wet effects happening after the FX send/return block and only going to the 2x12s.
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I can't say I've experienced this. I can confirm that it's not a DSP issue. The Stomp is designed so that either you can use the block with no harmful results, or you can't. There's no in between.
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Interesting setup. So, are you wanting the dry to come out of one of the cabs and the wet out the other? Or is there a third speaker I'm missing (i.e. is a speaker connected to the Friedman Runt 50)?
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In my opinion, any pedal you like will complement the Stomp brilliantly. That's the beauty of the Stomp - it goes with everything. The Stomp is the powerhouse on my pedal board, so I don't have a lot of fancy schmancy pedals to go with it. However, what I do have mates well with it (Freeze pedal, MXR Custom Comp, Il Diavolo Overdrive, Saucy Box Overdrive, Boss DS-1 Distortion, and TC Electronics Hall of Fame 2 Reverb). I also use a 1 Spot Pro CS12 to power them all, and a Melo Audio Midi Controller for the Stomp. My Stomp remains in a happily polygamous relationship with all of them.
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They will need to be split. However, defining what the "best way" is kind of depends on what you'll be using for amplification. The type of amplification matters, as well as the number of them. For example, are you going for two wet amps and one dry?
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Based on user comments and all things "Internets," I'd say you are in the majority, not the minority, when it comes to bailing on the stock cabs. Personally, I love the stock cabs. It took me a while to figure out how they worked and function, but once I did I liked all of the options. It's hard for me to feel the desire to buy an IR because I don't usually feel the point (but I've bought a few). A lot of this might be that the guitar sound I preferred the most leans towards how these were created in the first place, so of course I see no reason to bend. However, IRs are just easier. You like it - you use it. Plug and play. The only downside to the IR approach with the Stomp is you're eating up two blocks where I'm often only eating up one.
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I just realized I assumed you were talking about expression pedals. If you're just talking about regular effects pedals, well . . . I mean ANY pedal. it just depends on what you want and why.
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I'm privy to the default expression pedal. Yeah, it's pricey (I bought it on a deal, but still pricey), but it's essentially like getting two pedals in one (because of foot switch), and it's built like a tank. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SP1L6H--mission-engineering-inc-helix-expression-pedal-with-toe-switch-black-finish
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There are no special settings, other than don't add an amp or cab block. There was recently a bit of a intense debate about where to set the volume knob. The official Line 6 answer is to leave it maxed, but don't feel like leaving it somewhere else has proven to be world ending. The most common alternative approach seems to be to leave it at noon. Leave most of your volume adjustments within the digital presets.
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I love my Stomp. I prefer to run additional effects either before or after the Stomp for a single reason - saving a block or two since the Stomp has the 6 block limit. That's the main advantage to that way, you save on blocks and on DSP. The other way works too (through FX blocks) but the downside is obvious, you use a block. On the plus side, you can control those blocks with the Stomp's footswitches that can bring those effects in or out of your chain. However, to be honest, I'd rather just stomp on their footswitches and save a block. So my bias is clear. @rd2rk pointed out that with the LT or Floor model you can control the Timeline presets via midi, but don't fret too much. To some extent you can still do that. The Stomp will send midi preset messages whenever it changes its preset, and forward them on to other devices which if they accept midi in they will also change their preset. If you line them all up it works great. Or, even better, you can purchase an affordable midi controller and use that as the master control taking care of all of it and opening up even more use of the Stomp. I dunno, I think you made a great choice, especially if you love your Timeline and Big Sky and don't want to give them up. Good questions though.
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There are a number of options, and all of them are very easy. One of the easiest is I just bought a stereo TRS to Y TS cable and connected the two Y ends to the left and right FX return on the Stomp. I then set it to "auxiliary" in global settings, and connect the TRS end to whatever media player I'm using (phone - mine has a headphone jack, PC, MP3 player, etc.). That works perfectly (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZKM3S4S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1). Another very easy way with a PC is to simply connect the two devices via USB. The Stomp's default settings will send the audio from youtube through the device, so you can listen with headphones to your own playing while YouTube is playing.
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There are a lot of other variables. What guitar is he using? What one are you using? What amplifier is he running through? What one are you running through? I mean . . . it IS the same device, despite however it might feel.
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All it's ever done is fix bugs. To my knowledge, they've never introduced new amps or effects or indicated they have any plans to. So, unless there is a bug pissing you off, I wouldn't count on an update.
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It's a good question. Nowhere in the Stomp manual does it warn about it. However, a few months ago a user indicated they were having sound issues with their HX Stomp and they couldn't pin it down (they said it sounded muted and dull). Eventually they realized their Stomp was receiving phantom power, so they addressed that issue and it went away. The assumption was then that just like the Helix, it was impacted by phantom power. I'd sure love it if it was NOT the case.
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I've been curious on the use of acoustic amps as amplifiers for electric guitars that are run through modelers. What I've never known is if the acoustic amp just tries to accurately recreate the tone of a acoustic guitar, or if it tries to mess with the EQ to bring out certain acoustic guitar frequencies better that might mess up anything you do with a modeler before hand. Are you saying you've tried that route? Did it seem to just leave the EQ curve as is?
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