Kilrahi

I'm pretty sure if you just use a regular fx send return it'll work. Mono send - stereo return but one block. Just use all mono blocks prior to the FX block.

Morningstar is the best. I bought the midi commander too because it saves money, but the preset thing is odd I agree. Another great choice is the DMC Micro, but it only has two buttons so there are other limitations.

If you read through this threads earlier comments, you'll find your answer.

Well, just to be clear, I ask more because I'm almost certain they DO model the same EQ as the original. Which means if they do, I and many others are misunderstanding how they work, and if we're misunderstanding than, at least in my case, I'm not using the tool as well as I could. I do agree though that sometimes you just have to go with the flow. Well, to be clear, I DO find them remarkably accurate. That's part of my problem. Yeah, sometimes I'd use an EQ on a traditional amp, but often I was happy with it just the way it was. When I would use the HX, I often had that exact same feeling. Sounded great to me - without an EQ! However, I'd see so many people, some of them the very highest regarded in the Helix community (and rightly so) saying that for a modeler - specifically a modeler - you must ALWAYS do some EQ work to get in the realm of good sound, unlike a traditional guitar amp, or it will sound like trash. Because of that strong emphasis on EQ, the only natural conclusion I could draw was that the model, for some reason, models all sorts of things about the cab EXCEPT the natural EQ of the cab - but then it's not really modelling it accurately! Nevertheless, even though I'm often happy without an EQ, I STILL throw one on out of sheer paranoia that I must be wrong because conventional wisdom says to always use it. Knowing that it does in fact model the range of the cab makes it easier to trust my own ears really so thanks tremendously for your feedback.

Agreed . . . but WHY don't the modeled versions cut those out automatically? I mean, shouldn't they? It's not like it's impossible. We're cutting them manually, after all . . .

Oh, here's a thread I found on that very subject if you want to dig in more from people who've done it: https://www.bosepro.community/g/portable/topic/l1-compact-with-electric-guitar

Will first, I don't own one. I only know what I see from the specs, and when I've heard one. I would at least try it first. The L1 was clearly designed first and foremost as an acoustic guitar and vocal combo option and that is the way it is advertised. It clearly has the frequency range you need. I've also seen electric guitar players happily use it because they first go through a modeler like the Helix that EQs it to where they like it. There are other considerations though. I don't know what size groups you play, or if you play with other people, and what they got. From what I know, stick yourself by another electric guitar player with a traditional amp and they'll probably bury you. That's why you can test it out. If it doesn't work then move on to buying something else.

Exactly, it's a weird programming choice that never really bubbled up because most Helix users are drowning in blocks. For Stomp users though, you smack right up against it a lot and you quickly realize there's no reason (I mean, it seems like no reason) it has to be that way. #FirstWorldProblems

I liked this thinking, but I've always been too paranoid to follow it because the entire modelling community is very hardcore on the need for EQ. That's one thing that has confused me though, when the models work . . . do they have higher frequency ranges than the original amp did? It would seem if it were to model the amp accurately it would have the SAME frequency response. Yet, if we're always saying the only way for a modeler to sound as good as the real thing is to RELIGIOUSLY apply high and low cuts, and then all sorts of boosts and reductions, then it always seemed to me like the model can't be that accurate, at least not on the frequency response.

As has already been said well in the above, any flat response speaker system, as long as it's not a gimmicky one star pile of crap bought at a grocery store special, will do great with acoustic. That's the whole point of full range. Even better though, you already have a great one, and it didn't come cheap. So use that! The best deal will always be the one you already have.

Have you tried the new strobe tuner? I can see dishing on the original tuner (though it was always fine for me) but the strobe tuner is, in my opinion, the best tuner I've ever had.

It does work, but I wouldn't ever plug any other pedals in along with it. It's certainly a better (though less powerful) plug than the brick that came with it. I realize that this approach is WAY more expensive, but I do have to say I bought the One Spot's grandson and couldn't be happier. This thing can power a small starship: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/1SpotProCS12--truetone-1-spot-pro-cs12-12-output-isolated-guitar-pedal-power-supply

That was some very clever and crafty crap you just pulled off. Thank you for sharing it because now it's another feather in my knowledge cap! Nevertheless, you're right mstoffel that it's a very stupid limitation, and one that I really hope that Line 6 addresses in the future. I should probably put up an ideascale since it matters so much to me, but I don't have the time to actively campaign for it so that it actually gets attention. Hopefully they listen a lot to users since we can't be the only ones scratching our heads at this.

Only if one is midi.

Unfortunately the Stomp doesn't let you route a second path that's blank. Dumb, I know. A less DSP hungry option is to use an FX send block right before the IR. This would have the result of there being no split path. Still, the biggest problem in the Stomp isn't DSP usage itself, but the limit of six blocks so that sixth block use remains precious regardless. This is something I hope they change in the future because technologically I can't see a reason why they couldn't have a split path without a block.

BUT BUT BUT but . . . King of Tone! To me that's like being disgruntled that you have to go on a second date with Scarlett Johannson, but this time she's wearing the Black Widow costume.

Well umm . . . errr . . . first off, that's kind of like eating a T-Bone steak off of a horse's lollipop. Still, if that's what you really want to do, the short answer is no. The HX Stomp doesn't have blue tooth. You'd need to buy some sort of adapter to get the signal transferred to your JBL. I ASSUME something like that exists, but I would strongly advise against it. Let's imagine it's $50 to do it - okay - but $50 is 1/4 of a Headrush FRFR 108 at FULL price. Get it on sale and it's about 1/3 the cost. This is one case where I think the gains from going bigger are well worth it. Even a small Line 6 Spider V 20 watt for about $130 in flat response mode will sound far better. Edit: This is one case where Line 6's insistence on substituting "lollipop" for various swear words actually made the phrase sound much worse.

I sympathize with the feeling - I really do. I've been there many times. Especially when it comes to guitar where I've seen people grasp things in seemingly minutes that took me a few years to perfect with constant practice. Still though, I have to stress, none of this means you're stupid. The documentation COULD be better . . . but this device is meant to take all of human history's electric guitar gear (granted that's only a few decades worth, but saying it the other way has a grander feeling - sometimes spin is good) and jam it into a stomp board that can do it all. When you think about what it's REALLY trying to do, that's a lot to take in. I remember years ago just learning one amp was a journey, now you have just about every device conceivable, y splits, a/b branching - fx loops, snapshots - it's nucking futs and it takes a while to learn it. This forum is great for people helping to get there. Many times I've relied on it to learn stuff that is now second nature. It'll come!

Last week my local grocery store offered top sirloin steaks for $3.99 a pound. It was OKAY, and I considered buying them to cook for my wife and mom on Mother's Day, but then I thought . . . wait . . . it will PROBABLY go on sale for MORE the week of Mother's Day! So I waited! Last night they were $5.99 a pound! FIVE NINETY NINE!!! Those lying thieving bastards anticipated more people would be desperate during Mother's Day week! They had ribs on sale though for a VERY good price so I went with that. Silly me. Life went on. I still prefer steak and I hope to see those guys burn in hell.

I can't say that I understand the why because it would entail understanding the guts of the device (CPU power, RAM limitations, programming done, etc.). BUT I do think it's related to the fact that the Helix has 8 buttons dedicated as footswitches (controllers), and each preset can have a maximum of 64 controller assignments (8 x 8). So it must have been some way of managing the demands placed on the device effectively.

Do you have the global settings in the HX Stomp setup correctly? For example, if you have them both set to an expression pedal you're screwed. Is there a reason you need the Morningstar to mimic FS4 and FS5? For my midi controller, which has far fewer options, yeah, it can be important to do that sometimes. However, the MC6 is so freaking powerful that I'm not sure why you would need to go that route. If you're telling me what you're trying to do, maybe I can think of another alternative.

I definitely agree that Line 6 could do better (though they have been getting better, so that's good). However, you can work to make a complex concept to be presented as simply as POSSIBLE, but is it REALLY possible to make powerful equipment something that can be learned in one hour, one day, or even one year? I personally think that's a hard no, but if a company ever figures out how to do it they'll probably be rolling in it. I can explain how to play a guitar pretty quickly. There are only twelve possible tonal notes in music - and the guitar has those 12 notes arranged all over the fret board with various repeats. Press at the fretted parts to select notes and pluck the fretted strings just above the bridge for sound. There. Done. Gonna take more than a week though to actually do it. Anyway, keep at it. it really IS worth it.

I kind of already answered this in the Stomp FAQ, but just to be clear, basing it solely on sound it doesn't matter where you place it. If it were me, I would place it AFTER the Stomp because you free up DSP and blocks in the Stomp and can do other choices that way. You do get some additional control if you place it in the Stomp's FX loop, but personally, that's not worth it to me. If I want more control I'd rather go the Midi route.

No, you can't. However, the Kingsley sounds pretty good plugged directly into the effects return of an amp so you should be fine just using it with an IR. Probably take some tweaking. I prefer to put most effects, including reverb, after because then you save on internal Stomp DSP. However, one of the recent posters using delay pedals didn't like that option because he said that it wouldn't allow him to maintain the delay trails when he manually switches them off. I prefer to use the Stomp's delays so that's never been an issue for me.

You tried to come out as the good guy too. You also are the one who took it public, so don't cry about him sharing more info now. Also, for what it's worth, I side with him, not you. A business can hold sales whenever they want, and they don't owe you a damn thing if you miss it.