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I wish more companies could be this positive about their competitors. Except Coke about Pepsi. *?@#! Pepsi.

Did you just plug it straight into your amp or get a FRFR for it?

Now, for a third opinion. I think you're better off going HX Effects just like everyone else said. The Stomp would be for you if: 1. You had several other pedals you ALSO wanted to use in 4 cable method - this makes size a premium and the Stomp's advantage clear. 2. You want amp modelling. The HX Effects has none, so that route won't work. Since your description above is focused on four cable with only one effects pedal (HX Effects or Stomp) I think the HX Effects is the obvious choice.

I'm starting to hope 2.8 never comes out just so that the strange twists and turns of this thread never dies.

Based on what you replied with, you aren't doing what is suggested in this thread. You can't import the whole preset. A huge part of this is that the Stomp can only use 6 blocks, and the full Helix can use up to 32. Once the 2.8 update drops you are supposed to be able to import a preset as long as it only has 6 blocks. Until then the only way to move a preset over to the Stomp is by copying and pasting one block at a time through HX Edit.

Yes, that's correct.

It would depend on what complexity you want. If all three paths differ significantly than not really, no. You run out of blocks far too quickly.

To clarify further of what was said by rd2rk, one of the nicest things about the Stomp is purchasing it gets you a SIGNIFICANT discount on Helix Native, so not only do you get a hardware modeler, but for $100 more you can land yourself an amazing piece of software plugin modelling too. It's really a solid deal, depending on what your needs are. If you need a bit more oomph than the Stomp has, then by all means get the LT Helix model.

Agreed. This has been a passionate run, but let's move on to something less controversial, like politics, or religion or something.

I was reading TGP again and DI posted some stuff that, at least for me, was VERY useful on this subject because it shows that not even L6 really knows when a update will be released, BUT once they do think they're ready the process can happen almost instantaneously. It also showed that it could very well miss the Spring goal so better prepare yourself if that's a destroy your whole month type of reality. Me? I'm REALLY excited for it, and I want it, but I'll be fine and I'm not miffed. Check out the below: https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/helix-2-8.2004443/page-83 Digital Igloo: "I've said it before, but we NEVER know a firmware update's release date until about 10 minutes before it's released. Works like this: Build release candidate, shoot for a 1pm (or whenever) release, find last minute bug(s), cancel the release, fix the bug(s), build a new release candidate the next morning, shoot for 1pm (or whenever) release, find last minute bug(s), cancel the release, rinse and repeat. 2.80 is no different, but we're not at release candidate yet. .... At this point, we simply don't know if 2.80 will be out before the 21st. Some days it doesn't look good; other days it does. We're not going to provide play-by-play. The hotkey templates are fun as hell, that's for sure. Played Portal 2 with my feet last night. The night before, I tracked dozens of guitar takes in Logic without ever touching a mouse or keyboard."

Everyone's perspective is interesting. To me the L6 Link is just a port. Like a optical, USB, HDMI, firewire ... What it does is dependent on the device and software running it. My PS2 used its USB port for almost nothing. The Sony camera comes to mind. My PC uses it for every thing under the sun. My Stomp only uses it for firmware updates, sound transfer, and HX Edit. My printer only receives printer data through it. I do think it was weird to take this long to have that port really do anything (my understanding is prior to 2.8 it had been rather useless). I also get why if someone bought the dream rig for the HD 500 they'd want it to last as long and be supported as long as possible because it wasn't cheap. At the same time though, I think it's a bit much to expect 1 to 1 dream rig parity just because L6 uses that port now or in the future. I own a Variax. I'd really like a future L6 device with the VDI input to support it. I already know that based on the past I can only hope at best for SOME degree of continued functionality. Hell, maybe L6 will abandon the VDI port entirely. There's always that risk.

What type of speaker system do you have the songs being amplified through?

Indeed it has changed. Line 6 appears to also be revolutionizing business metrics far beyond the typical ROI (Return on Investment). Now you have the new standard of NOSPs (Number of Soiled Pants). One of these days, if you're allowed to, you'll have to share with us what your target NOSP for 2019 is and if you eventually exceeded the 2018 NOSPs from the Stomp's announcement.

No don't do that. That's not quite what we're saying. The TRS cable IS the splitter cable. See the link below. The cable splits the signal for you and each output goes into the input of each separate pedal, which then each pedals output is connected by another TS cable to the FX return. https://www.amazon.com/Tisino-Stereo-Y-Splitter-Return-Insert/dp/B07K59P692/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=trs+to+TS+y&qid=1560372530&s=gateway&sr=8-3 Also, watch the official Line 6 video below starting at 2:56

In all of the instances were you using an ABY and/or a parallel output of one of the pedals? Because that might be the problem right there. You use a TRS to TS Y Cable only. One pedal gets connected to the tip, another to the sleeve. Then one pedal is connected to one return, and the other to the other. Nothing more complex to do then that.

Well, they did call it the "missing connections," or something like that, update basically off of the theory that it was fixing stuff they missed (i.e. oopsied). I don't think your perception is that crazy.

What exactly do you mean that you did that? Did your PC let you choose it? Or did it not let you choose it?

I thought I'd share this since it's relevant to what we were discussing. Today Digital Igloo confirmed on the Gear Page that Helix Core is more about what bsd512 said, namely making sure they don't get SLOWER rather than ensuring they do releases faster than they did before. It's one of those improvements that DOES help us, but we'll probably never realize it. Quote and link is below: "Helix Core was feature complete shortly before NAMM. Considering it consists of a total rewrite of huge mountains of code, we've been in testing/bug squashing mode for months. From our vantage, development will be much faster because we can code for Helix Floor, Helix Rack/Control, Helix LT, Helix Native, HX Edit, HX Effects, and HX Stomp simultaneously. From everyone else's vantage, it's not like there will be major updates every three months or something. It just means development doesn't slow to a snail's crawl (including development of platform improvements, modeling engine improvements, and new products) because we have so many SKUs to support. Team Helix is still relatively small and we want to make sure we're working as efficiently as possible. A couple of developers are already working on 2.90. No, throwing them on 2.80 would slow down its release." Digital Igloo https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/helix-2-9.2053030/page-3

I have the V 20, but I'm a bit confused as to what issue you ran into. There is only one USB port on the V 20 and it's on the front of the unit.

Well, I've never had anything like this happen . . . so hopefully they get you figured out because that's pretty crazy.

Thirty-two.

The stock cabs are IRs . . .

Unfortunately, no. I don't have one. I have been researching getting one though because it's extremely small form factor is appealing. When I first bought a midi controller I had no idea how powerful that one really was, even with only two buttons. Now, how do I know it can do it? Check out the links below. In the video they clearly switch between stomp and snapshot modes which are only possible if you can send cc values. The first forum link actually has some explanation, but where I don't have one to try it on it's hard to connect the dots. It appears to have to do with some mode called "utility" mode, but beyond that it's all gibberish to me. https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/dmc-micro-with-hx-stomp.1991666/

You ask a few questions here. To your first question, no, the Laney is nothing like an FRFR speaker. In terms of frequency response, that one doesn't have a very wide one actually - but even if it did, an FRFR is more than just a broad frequency response. They have tweeters and ummm, honestly it gets complicated and it's a bit over my head, other than I know enough to tell you that a standard guitar cab is not FRFR. To your second question . . . should you try to use your vintage greenback celestion? It depends on how much you'd love the sound of it. It's not the way I would go because it locks you into one type of cab (the real cab you're using). I prefer FRFR, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't sound amazing. It might be your favorite thing ever, and since you already own it, yeah, there's a good argument for trying it . . except for the fact that you don't have an amplifier, and that isn't exactly cheap so . . . I mean again, it's not what I would do. What do I do? I own a Firehawk 1500 which is rated as a flat response. It is honestly a pretty sweet setup with some unique tricks up its sleeve. Particularly if you want a cheaper wet/dry/wet kind of setup it's pretty close to it without all the fuss and muss of one. I wouldn't recommend YOU get a 1500 though. That's a pretty pricey (and damned heavy) move just to get an FRFR. I'd steer you to the Powercab, and if that's too pricey, the Headrush FRFR models. There are other great choices too though. Honestly, more and more of them are popping up every year.

Yes.