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Why not try 4CM and the FX block so you can try out different preamps in the Helix? Or set up your Helix like a pedalboard via 4CM with delay/rev/EQ in the loop and other effects in front of the Marshall. Trust me - both methods are awesome!

The setup you described doesn't really reflect an FRFR set up. Your power tube section, speakers and cabinet will color the sound, not providing the Full Range Flat Response of a true FRFR system. I would recommend that you think of your set up as a tube power amp and speaker cabinet set up. With your set up, the Pre-Amp only block should be selected. Choosing the Amp only block adds in the simulated power section of the selected amp model and this is going into the power section of your amp. Choosing the Amp+Cab block sends a simulated amp, power section and cab into the power section of your amp. This may be the cause of the fizziness you're hearing. So since you already have a power section and cabinet, the Pre-Amp block is the correct choice here. I highly recommend using the 4CM template as using a true 4CM set up allows more flexibility of your effects (for pre and post preamp signal management - i.e. OD in front of the amp, Reverb and Delay in the effects loop).

I was just going to say - I have no problems in Reaper, no latency and have direct monitoring while recording. I recently bought Native as well (recording with no issues either) - and having a blast with it!

As a new user to Native, I agree on this. Would also be nice to have a basic save option that saves the preset to the PC and the Library as you currently have to save it twice for that.

One use I can think of for this would be switch pre amps - we have a song where I switch from clean to heavy distortion immediately, so I can definitely see me using this capability for that purpose. I did pull the trigger and got Native. Man oh man, this plug in is fun! I recorded a couple tracks last night with my bass player, both using Helix Native simultaneously - the sound was awesome and I loved being able to edit the tones while playing back. I do appreciate you guys leading me in the right direction and the tips - thanks!

Pedalboard is a custom made Pedal Pad. Everything is powered by a Walrus Audio Phoenix power supply with the exception of the vocal processor. ODs are going through the Mesa Live Wire, into the HX Effects. EQ is through FX Loop 2 on the HX Effects as I wanted quick access to EQ changes. HX Effects controls my Mesa or Marshall.

Although I understand the anticipation for this release, is it really that hard to manually edit the HX Effects? I was able to achieve all my settings through manual setup so at this point, the editor will be a luxury to me. I would still use the HX Effects even if the editor was never available.

Sh*t.......looks like I'm getting Native now. Thanks for helping Line 6 make my wallet lighter! : ) Seriously - this right here is a game changer - I appreciate the info!

Oh yeah, Helix into a tube power amp sound great!! I use my Mesa TC-100. The Archon preamp is almost better than the TC-100. Almost....... :)

How does that PowerStage perform? Loud enough?

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I'm definitely experimenting with this tonight - thanks for sharing your secret!

I discovered this bug last night. I have a Mesa TC-100 and set the following programs via MIDI up. 1 - Clean with Reverb, Effects Loop On 4 - LO Channel with Reverb, Effects Loop On 5 - LO Channel with Reverb, Effects Loop On, Solo Boost engaged 8 - HI Channel with Reverb, Effects Loop On 9 - HI Channel with Reverb, Effects Loop On, Solo Boost engaged I have a preset where foot switches are assigned these program numbers as a "master" preset for midi programs. I've created another preset for use with the Mesa TC-100, with programs 1, 4, and 8 assigned to certain foot switches. They work flawlessly. The problem is when I'm in Snapshot mode. Every snapshot that has the Solo Boost engaged (via instant command) does not engage the Solo Boost on the Mesa TC-100. All other snapshots work as expected. This only happens in Snapshot mode and only when I've selected a snapshot with the solo boost engaged. Edit: I should note that when in Snapshot mode and the snapshot with the Solo Boost is selected, the Solo Boost light on the Mesa TC-100 comes on momentarily (like about half a secound) and then goes off. It does not behave this way with my midi program preset - only in snapshot mode.

Sounds good dude!!! I can't get the Rectifire model to sound that great.......yet. Very well done!

Thanks for the insight. I also travel for work sometimes and having a small interface and Helix Native would also give me the tools to jam/record while traveling with my laptop. I appreciate the advice - thanks!

I have the Helix floor unit and do quite a bit of recording with it via Focusrite interface. I was wondering what you guys thought of Helix Native vs Helix Floor Unit. Is it worth spending the extra $$ to have this on my laptop as opposed to just plugging in my Helix floor unit? Or is it simply just a matter of convenience to bypass the floor unit? What do you guys think?

If you have an amp with a tube power section, I high recommend using the FX loop block and wiring via 4cm. This way, you can experiment with the preamps in Helix. You might find a whole other world at your fingertips. I have done this with my Mesa TC-100 and the Archon preamp - absolutely amazing response - almost a better preamp than the Mesa! When the Helix 2 comes out, I might just re-invest into a rack setup (Helix/Power Conditioner/Wireless/Tube Power Amp) using this method.

Yeah, it’s on there! Think I’ll paint them black soon - it’ll blend in better.

Glad to hear about the gig's success!! It's always great when a new piece of gear does exactly what you want, when you want it to. I am really enjoying the Helix products too!

So I have a couple pedal boards - 1 which I use exclusively at my drummers house for rehearsal/gigging and 1 that is used at my house that is an all analog pedal board for studio use. I wanted my gigging/rehearsal pedal board to be as convenient as my Helix Floor unit for switching - hence, the HX Effects comes into play perfectly here. (Side note: snapshots are a game changer!!!!) The HX Effects is exactly what I needed for this pedal board and I wanted to keep some of my analog overdrive pedals. But I wanted a mounting method that would: - Be easily removed for using the HX Effects only or for updating software without needing the entire pedal board - Did not damage the unit with scratches or adhesive from velcro - Not using a bunch of velcro for mounting So I found 2 metal dryer hose clamps that I didn't use, loop velcro with adhesive back and x4 (Metric 3#) bolts (about .75in long), washer, lock washers and nuts. I then aligned the metal hose clamps and cut them at the correct place leaving enough material in the front and back of the unit to securely tighten the HX Effects onto the pedalboard. Next, I placed the hose clamps next to the HX Effects and with a sharpie, marked where I would bend them for a tight fit. I bent the first piece and then double checked it with the unit and then bent the 2nd piece to match. Then I cut black loop velcro with an adhesive back and applied that to the back of the hose clamps. This provides a soft cushion between the metal hose clamps and the body of the HX Effects ensuring no scratching whatsoever. Next, I placed the completed unit on my pedal board to mark drill holes through the board and on the metal hose clamp. I drilled and mounted the bottom bolts and then the top. Lastly, I loosened up the clamps for maximum clearance to avoid any scratches and then inserted and clamped the unit down securely. This method enables me to remove the HX Effects with minimal efforts for updating the software, using the unit exclusively, while not using a ton of Velcro to the unit, does not damage the unit and was relatively cheap and easy to complete. Some of you may have some questions on my pedal board pedal choices as the HX Effects could be used as a substitute. Here's my explanation: - I put the MXR EQ in the FX Loop 2 so that I have immediate access to adjust the EQ rather than going through the HX menu. - The HX does have a looper, but the Wiretap catches longer phrases. It's more of an idea catcher, rather than a looper. - The additional Sentry Noise Gate provides an additional layer of gating - I'm anticipating this need for tight stage arrangements. - I love the TS Mini, Xotic SL Drive and Mesa Flux OD tones! Helix gets close, but I prefer these pedals. - The Mesa High Wire buffers the OD and Wiretap pedals before putting into the HX Effects input. This may be the only redundant pedal on this board. - The Vocalist is there because I need all the help I can get when singing. :) Let me know if you guys have any questions on this mounting method or my set up. Suggestions are always welcome as well.

No, the manual does not support 4CM in any other wiring configuration besides using the FX Loop 1. This is a change I'd like to see on these effects units - a dedicated Send/Return for Amp's effects loop - just like the Boss ES-8.

I own the Mesa Mark V 35 - I did skim through the manual and there is nothing saying to only use the Mesa footswitch. I would advise you head over to the Boogie Board (Mesa forum) and ask the guys there. It's pretty quiet in there sometimes, but there are some guys who are very knowledgeable and occasionally a certified Mesa representative will chime in.

Agreed! I would like to see the Spider Valve amp concept mated with the Helix effects and preamps capabilities. I would buy one yesterday!