pianoguyy

have you saved your files?

Have you ever considered that it is User Error?

I never would have considered doing all of that plugging and unplugging. At least, not in a live situation. Not only wasn't I thinking that way - in my head, I was taking it a step further and thinking that he may have needed to use them in the same song. I don't really do that too often anymore. But I used to do multiple instruments for years. But, you are correct. Depending on his actually usage, there are various options.

Given your current situation, the 500 is not the unit for you. You need more input/output/routing options. HOWEVER... You could skip the amp, and run your guitar direct to the PA (through the Pod). This would make the entire situation easier. You'd would still need to use an A/B box to switch between the acoustic and mandolin, which then runs into the pod. But it becomes a much easier situation when you remove the amp. The way the Pod handles output, you can run direct and still use the amp as a monitor. But by going direct, you don't need to worry about routing left/right into you patches.

After spending a decade building my rig to perfection, and then not updating it for 20 years (it was perfect, why would I need to change anything), I bought an HD500. Sure, it may have taken me a year (when the size and programming of a rig has been implemented into a stage show, it is harder to just dump it) for me to completely transition to using the HD500 exclusively. But that is where I am. The pod replaced everything that went between me and the mixer/pa. I go guitar > pod > pa. Load up, load in, set up, sound check, tear down, load out, and unload - it all takes me 10 minutes. With the old rig, gigs were all day events. 16 hour days vs 4 hour nights. A truck load of gear vs the trunk of a sports car. And flying for gigs is so much easier if you need to take your own gear. A pod fits in a suitcase. Try doing that with an amp or fx rack.

But you are hooked up to EDIT

Lol, what is the example I use ---- using the 500 without using the modeling is like buying a Ferrari and only using it to drive to the end of the driveway to get your mail. The truth is - and I mean the absolute complete truth - anything you plug into any jack is going to modify the sound. I know guys who use one foot chords in the studio to get the "purist" tone possible. And they would use shorter if they could. So, if you are that much in love with your amp tone... sorry, you won't like the pod. But, on the off chance that you aren't as much of a cork sniffer as we think, you'll like the pod. And when you pull your head out of your lollipop and realize that you never need to use an amp again, you'll LOVE the pod.

I can definitely attest to certain patches sounding very different when used on different firmware versions. But not fuzz vs no fuzz. To truly make sure "all things are equal", you should (on both units) update firmwares and do the master resets (or whatever it is actually called). THEN make sure all of the settings are the same. And remember, even though the 4 units (500/X Pro/X) are primarily the same, there are some minute differences.

never tried. But I can tell you that it won't work.

Do you have the EDIT software?

Before we ask for more freebies, I would love to see someone install Version 1 of the software, and then compare it to the current version. ALL FREE.

PianoGuyY is always right. But the problem is --- he knows he is right and he's not afraid to tell you that he is right.

you can use them both at the same time, but left is left and right is right. You aren't going to program xlr right to be different from 1/4" right. *as mentioned above. 1/4" sums to mono. Many users do what you said --- go direct to PA, and then have an amp on stage for monitoring. The tone coming from an "amp" will be different than if it is a monitor/frfr type unit. But it's not meant for tone, it's meant just to hear yourself.

IF you did it correctly, the amps are intermingled in the list of amps. There is no separate section of downloaded amps.

The other thing to consider is --- Your amp produces an amp tone (what you normally hear), which a mic then picks up and puts into a pa/recorder (which is something you don't normally hear). But a modeler does not produce an amp tone, it produces that final after-mic sound.

NEVER use the software live. It is an editor, not a live control panel.

that's a lollipop answer and you lollipop know it. You will never be able to afford a sound engineer if you do non-sense like that. Question --- What is your singer singing through?

But before I played in those bands, I played in bars. What did I use - the same Bandit 65. The difference is, I was always mic'd. There were always monitors. Yeah, always. Why would you ever be so unprofessional as to use your guitar amp for house sound! It is our names on the marquee. Take control. No one is walking out of the venue saying "gee whiz, that is a good band, but the house sound was really awful". But they do walk out saying "what the hell was going on with that band." ~~and guess who they won't come see again.

Not a requirement, as sometimes they wear "slacks" with their tight vest.

That's not true - if he likes what he is getting at home, he can't go direct to the PA because his Peavey amp is providing tone.

yes, and yes. you are on the right track. Studio Direct, and use the full amp models with cab simulation. ========== You don't need to use full amp models or cab simulation if you don't want to.

That's a loaded question - one way or another, everyone runs their unit through a power amp, otherwise you wouldn't be able to hear yourself. I mean, even your computer speakers have a power amp. No power equals no noise. Headphones, same thing - they use a power amp, albeit, very low power. But as to the "gig" portion -- I toured the world in bands like Alice Cooper and Meat Loaf. My rig consisted of a Peavey Bandit 65. Your amp isn't filling the stadium. You have a PA to do that. And that philosophy is even more important in your locals bars where a little combo could actually fill the room. Live - run your Pod direct to the pa. Have them feed you back through the monitors. For your bedroom, you want something that provides a transparent tone so that your tone isn't colored. It really sucks when you create tones and then hook up to a PA or recorder, only to discover that your tone is missing a lot of bass because your amp/cab choice added it to what you heard at home.

I didn't even bring up tight vests and fedoras.

I am not forcing you to buy the unit. That is your decision. But, if you do buy it, save yourself the hassle. Go ampless from Day 1.

Well, actually - it is much older. The HD500 was released in 2010. The HD500X was not a new design or new programming. The main processor of the HD500 was no longer being made, so L6 had to buy a different one which resulted in a slight bump in RAM (it is not RAM, it is DSP, but most computer users understand what RAM is, not DSP). And, they also started to use different footswitches to make it look like a different unit (a marketing ploy). But, in reality, the two units are exactly the same. Which means you are looking at a unit that was released 7 years ago. And there is no way to know how long before that the programming existed. The age is one of the reasons why bluetooth, wi-fi, and Android are not being used. Those things weren't as commonplace, or advanced, in 2010. BUT, fear not, music technology does not move as fast as other tech. Keyboards, as example, were using floppy discs up until a few years ago (2010-ish). And the only reason they stopped --- Microsoft and computer manufactures, stopped including floppy discs as standard equipment. I can stuff hundreds of songs onto a 1.44mb floppy disc because midi technology is measured in kilobytes. MP3 tech, however, is measured in megabytes. Very few of my midi songs are over 100kb, with most being single digits. But all of my mp3 music is at least 3mb. Firehawk is not replacing HD. Firehawk was made for the coffee drinking selfie-crowd. HD was made for musicians. The Helix, however, is the latest tech for musicians. L6 will not confirm that HD is dead because they still have product to move, but... Hey, if you don't chase technology (always needing the newest toy), then get the HD. My biggest fear is that the driver support will stop before I am ready to move on. Like you, my unit replaced my 20-30 year old rig. I mean, I was using an ART SGE Mach II and Rocktron Pro GAP up until 3 years ago. I am too busy making music to be concerned with "oh no, there is a new product available". But I can't imagine that Yamaha (new owners of L6) and Microsoft are going to be interested in allowing me to hook up my HD500 in 2030. **Oh, also, I had a Rockman Soloist (an original model) in my rig. It not only worked great on stage, but was great for hotels and tour buses when I needed to use headphones. here's the deal --- - Any patch you make is going to sound different when you run it through your amp than if you run it direct to a PA (or personal monitor). Amps provide personality/tone. That is why you buy one amp vs another amp, you prefer its tone. A Fender model will never sound like a Fender when coming through a Mesa because the Mesa will all add Mesa personality to the signal. That means that if you ditch the amp in the future, you need to rewrite all of your patches to accommodate for loss of amp tone. - Also, because you are looking at fx loops, any patch you write will need to be re-written if you drop the fx loop. FX Loop takes up a block in your patch which could be used for something important. Plus, as mentioned above, you need to adjust the tone based on the loss of the amp tone. - Pack up, load in, set up, sound check, tear down, loud out, and unpack. It will take you a grand total of 10 minutes if you go amp-less. - It is a lot easier to fly with your rig if you do not have an amp - Making more gigs accessible. - Many smaller venues are going the way of "quiet stage", amps aren't allowed. Get prepared now. - Many larger stages require IEM's because there is no way to turn you up loud enough to be heard on the other side of the stage. - The sound guy will love that he doesn't have to compete with a 100watt 4x10. Your FOH sound will be so much better when you go amp-less. Better sound equals happier fans, which equals more gigs. - You are eventually going to go ampless even though you have reservations about it now. Resistance is futile. Go amp-less now.