drew_tnbd Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Thought I'd have some fun pulling the names of effects from the Sweetwater video. Here is what I got: Dynamics: Deluxe Comp Red Squeeze LA Studio Comp Noise Gate Hard Gate EQ: Simple EQ Low and High Cut Parametric 10 Band Graphic Modulation: Optical Tremolo 60's Bias Tremolo Script Mod Phase Ubiquitous Vibe Gray Flanger Harmonic Flanger Courtesan Flanger Chorus (more...) Delay: Simple Delay Mod/Chorus Echo Sweep Echo Ducked Delay Transistor Tape Bucket Brigade Adriatic Delay Elephant Man I do wonder whether they're final options or if the Sweetwater guys were running an older beta firmware, because I'm missing a Reverse Delay - and in the video the delay category didn't have a little down arrow at the bottom of the list, indicating more available options - so I hope that isn't the lot for delay! It must not be really... coz they had the Harmony Delay in all the promo stuff, and it wasn't in the list in the Sweetwater video. Anyone wanna take a guess at what an Adriatic Delay could be, or the Elephant Man?? My guess is the Adriatic Delay is some kind of huge washy ambient delay and that the Elephant Man is apeing a real world pedal of some kind, possibly a Memory Man - elephant's never forget and all that.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-Tonequest Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Okay—here we go, one-point-oh: Input Blocks: None, Multi (Guitar, Aux, Variax), Guitar, Aux, Variax, Variax Magnetics, Mic, Return 1, Return 2, Return 3, Return 4, Return 1/2, Return 3/4, S/PDIF, USB 3/4, USB 5/6, USB 7/8 Output Blocks: Multi (1/4", XLR, Digital, USB 1/2), Path 2A, Path 2B, Path 2A+B, 1/4", XLR, Send 1/2, Send 3/4, Digital (S/PDIF, AES/EBU, or L6 LINK), USB 1/2, USB 3/4, USB 5/6 Distortion Models: Minotaur, Compulsive Drive, Valve Driver, Top Secret OD, Scream 808, Hedgehog D9, Vermin Dist, Arbitrator Fuzz, Triangle Fuzz, Industrial Fuzz, Tycoctavia Fuzz, Megaphone Dynamics Models: Deluxe Comp, Red Squeeze, LA Studio Comp, Noise Gate, Hard Gate EQ Models: Simple EQ, Low Cut/High Cut, Parametric, 10-Band Graphic Modulation Models: Optical Trem, 60s Bias Trem, Script Mod Phase, Ubiquitous Vibe, Gray Flanger, Harmonic Flanger, Courtesan Flange, Chorus, 70s Chorus, Trinity Chorus, Bubble Vibrato, Vibe Rotary, 122 Rotary, 145 Rotary, AM Ring Mod, Pitch Ring Mod Delay Models: Simple Delay, Mod Chorus Echo, Multitap 4, Multitap 6, Ping Pong, Sweep Echo, Ducked Delay, Transistor Tape, Harmony Delay, Bucket Brigade, Adriatic Delay, Elephant Man Reverb Models: Plate, Room, Chamber, Hall, Echo, Tile, Cave, Ducking, Octo, 63 Spring, Spring, Particle Verb Pitch/Synth Models: Pitch Wham, Twin Harmony, 3 Osc Synth Filter Models: Mutant Filter Mystery Filter [Hi, Stilwel—we miss you, brother!] Wah Models: UK Wah 846, Teardrop 310, Fassel, Weeper, Chrome, Chrome Custom, Throaty, Vetta Wah, Colorful, Conductor Volume/Pan Models: Volume Pedal, Gain, Pan Send/Return: Send 1, Send 2, Send 3, Send 4, Send 1/2, Send 3/4, Return 1, Return 2, Return 3, Return 4, Return 1/2, Return 3/4, FX Loop 1, FX Loop 2, FX Loop 3, FX Loop 4, FX Loop 1/2, FX Loop 3/4 Looper: Mono, Stereo Split: Y, A/B, Crossover Merge: Mixer Thanks D.I. Any plans for a clean boost like the Xotic RC Booster? That's a staple for me. Or a Pigtronix Envelope Phaser? One of the best Phasers out there IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I hope this list grows quickly, preferably before launch. It's missing a few things. Like a reverse delay, auto volume, auto wah (tron up/down), seems lacking in phasers, panner (not pan control), lacking in filters (unless the two listed can do a lot). Is there a dimension chorus in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_Igloo Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Thanks D.I. Any plans for a clean boost like the Xotic RC Booster? That's a staple for me. Or a Pigtronix Envelope Phaser? One of the best Phasers out there IMO. Any future models we may or may not include will be largely prioritized from IdeaScale requests. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 little suggestion: don't give away your HD Good suggestion. At least until I can duplicate, or make better, what I made on the 500X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyg Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I hope this list grows quickly, preferably before launch. It's missing a few things. Like a reverse delay, auto volume, auto wah (tron up/down), seems lacking in phasers, panner (not pan control), lacking in filters (unless the two listed can do a lot). Is there a dimension chorus in there? Thanks for mentioning the Dimension, it is one of my main "go to" FX on my 500X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_Igloo Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I should make a template for inserting an M9 or M5 into Helix and controlling it with the switches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudomat Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 ...no intelligent pitch shifting...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 ...no intelligent pitch shifting...? Twin Harmony and Harmony Delay both have intelligent pitch shifting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewolf48 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Mr Igloo, Can you please tell us a bit more about "3 Osc Synth"? Are we talking SY-300 functionality? (in combination with other effects perhaps) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CipherHost Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 little suggestion: don't give away your HD Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellM5 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 little suggestion: don't give away your HD 10-4. Maybe I'll run the HD500X in one of the effects loops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-Tonequest Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Will the wahs have an auto engage/disengage option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radatats Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 10-4. Maybe I'll run the HD500X in one of the effects loops. OMG, I didn't think of that... hahahahaha... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewolf48 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 The HD500 at the very least is the Backup - I have felt rather exposed not having an alternative other than hoping there is a guitar amp I can borrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Will the wahs have an auto engage/disengage option? I don't know for sure, but you could always do what some do now with the pods, which is have the wah mix parameter low enough and assigned to the expression pedal min so that when it's in the heel position the wah is essentially shut off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_Igloo Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Maybe I'll run the HD500X in one of the effects loops. FX Loop 1: HD500X FX Loop 2: Fractal AxeFX II XL+ FX Loop 3: Kemper KPA FX Loop 4: Eventide H8000FW 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 FX Loop 1: HD500X FX Loop 2: Fractal AxeFX II XL+ FX Loop 3: Kemper KPA FX Loop 4: Eventide H8000FW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CipherHost Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 FX Loop 1: HD500X FX Loop 2: Fractal AxeFX II XL+ FX Loop 3: Kemper KPA FX Loop 4: Eventide H8000FW That's a serious kit budget! Then of course you will need a backup kit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpapina Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Hey DI - Is there any way to list the included cab models in the Helix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Not that it matters terribly, but the xxl-v30 from the pod series, is that in there under a different name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayson2 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 FX Loop 1: HD500X FX Loop 2: Fractal AxeFX II XL+ FX Loop 3: Kemper KPA FX Loop 4: Eventide H8000FW Would that be mono in and out, right? Can the loops work as a mono send to a stereo return? Cheers, jayson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellM5 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Okay, is it just me or was the cab list here a few posts ago and then disappeared? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 You're right. It's gone now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBTL Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Talk box??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandrio Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 ok, think i'll run helix in the fx loop of my hd500 :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjnette Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 One gripe I see often from nay sayers when departing the POD HD is "would prefer higher quality and fewer FX over 'too many'" It looks as if the higher quality is there but the quantity might not be and this might be for those who'd like to use the new Axe FX board in their loop of the helix or the M9 if you sold your HD 500. Just summizing here but it is being positioned as a hub and seem to be inviting the use of other products openly and why not! Very smart actually! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbenigni Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Regarding the pitch shift effects: are any of these clean enough to use for drop-tune/ virtual capo set ups, or are they just suited for whammy pedal/ harmonizer effects? I used the chromatic shifter in my Kemper quite a bit when I had to play detuned stuff (old Sabbath or whatever) on a guitar in standard tuning. Will the Helix be able to the same, or am I going to need an EHX Pitchfork or equivalent off the back? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikej555 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Regarding the pitch shift effects: are any of these clean enough to use for drop-tune/ virtual capo set ups, I would like to know the answer to this too. I wrote on IdeaScale about a year ago that this is a go / no-go factor for me in deciding to buy the next generation POD. The warble sound on the HD500 is so bad I too have to run a stomp box instead of using the POD pitch shift effect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbenigni Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I would like to know the answer to this too. I wrote on IdeaScale about a year ago that this is a go / no-go factor for me in deciding to buy the next generation POD. The warble sound on the HD500 is so bad I too have to run a stomp box instead of using the POD pitch shift effect. Yeah, this is a biggie. I can't call it go/no-go, as I've already gone. :) But the Kemper really spoiled me in this regard - they put a lot of work into the pitch-shifting on the KPA, with formant controls and a "smooth chord" setting (probably some kind of harmonic compensation), and so on. With all of the CPU power on tap in the Helix, I would hope it could do the same, but I worry that Line 6 might neglect this functionality as it overlaps with alternate tunings via Variax. Kind of a confilict of interest for the marketing department. :) Anyway, if we get a "no" on this I'll put it up on IdeaScale and hope for an eventual f/w update... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratchamp Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Is there a proper deluxe memory man model like in the hd500? Is that what mod/chorus echo is, or is that just a digital delay with mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Is there a proper deluxe memory man model like in the hd500? Is that what mod/chorus echo is, or is that just a digital delay with mod? Yes, there is a DMM model. It's called "Elephant Man". You can choose either chorus or vibrato modulation modes, and it has a drive parameter for the delay repeats. It sounds pretty sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratchamp Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Yes, there is a DMM model. It's called "Elephant Man". You can choose either chorus or vibrato modulation modes, and it has a drive parameter for the delay repeats. It sounds pretty sweet. Nice. Can it also act like a preamp to drive the amp harder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialed Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 This is directed toward one of the staff, but are any of the 'verbs comparable to say a Strymon Shimmer reverb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRalphN Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I thought effects were lacking a bit also. I do expect a few more. Especially a phaser or two.. What I wondered was if IR technology would allow the sale of effects packs or if that technology was limited to cab/amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I thought effects were lacking a bit also. I do expect a few more. Especially a phaser or two.. What I wondered was if IR technology would. Like the sale of effects packs or if that technology was limited to cab/amps. There is one phaser model - the Phase 90, called the "Script Mod Phase" in the list above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRalphN Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 There is one phaser model - the Phase 90, called the "Script Mod Phase" in the list above. I was a Redwitch Moon Phaser user. Much more natural, though the Phase 90 is ok. I was just hoping for a couple options though admittedly I am in the minority with use of Phasers these days. I realize I could always loop on in but for me I want to eliminate a lot or all of my single stomps. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I was a Redwitch Moon Phaser user. Much more natural, though the Phase 90 is ok. I was just hoping for a couple options though admittedly I am in the minority with use of Phasers these days. I realize I could always loop on in but for me I want to eliminate a lot or all of my single stomps. I think this is one of the stronger points about units like this, despite having all kinds of effects loops. All kinds of appendages hanging off of each other can get rather disorderly - judging from pictures. I'm sure there's lots of people out there that like a simplified setup and less points of failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRalphN Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I think this is one of the stronger points about units like this, despite having all kinds of effects loops. All kinds of appendages hanging off of each other can get rather disorderly - judging from pictures. I'm sure there's lots of people out there that like a simplified setup and less points of failure. Agreed. That is basically my idea. I hope everything in it is high enough quality that I never have to drag my amp and pedal board around. At 53 years old I now just play in church, a very rare event out, and I want to do a some recording without spending a small fortune on racks and pedals. I saw Brit Floyd this past Friday. They use AxeFx. I thought how nice it must be not to worry about amps and pedal boards. I hope this does the same for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephyballew Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Twin Harmony and Harmony Delay both have intelligent pitch shifting. I would like to see intelligent pitch harmony with with two harmonies against the root note that all 12 notes of the scale is user assignable. It appears that you have an Eventide H3000 twin harmony now. I am assuming that it has the user assignable 12 notes like the original unit. Three would be even better. Queen has several songs that solos turn into orchestrations and sounds fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.