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  1. Yeah if you are scooping the mids you're screwed. I have never been a fan of that sound anyway. It sounds fat when you play alone...but in a band mix it sounds like an angry mosquito. I push the mids on my settings. Nice and warm and present in the mix
  2. I have always felt it's a lot about what parts you are playing in a 2 guitar band. The masters of it are The Stones and Aerosmith. Making 2 guitars sound like one big one But if you're both playing distorted power chords, then it gets tricky.
  3. robbieb61

    Tube amps Gone?

    I got my Helix in Oct. 2015 in the first shipment that Sweetwater had. I used it in various ways...mostly with my DT 50 amp the first year (the amp models sounded better with some tube juice). Then as the models got better, alone with a Bose L1 Compact to monitor myself onstage and running the XLR out to the P.A. out front. The tube amp models have gotten progressively better and better. The Archon amp model has been my favorite clean, crunch, and lead model over the last year (I don't like using distortion pedals in front of an amp...I like the sound of the amp's overdrive better). Able to get a great sound using that and a third party IR cab. Having said that...a couple of months ago, I bought a Mesa Triple Crown rackmount head. That head has a built in load box so you can shut off the speaker output. I go straight into the amp, then take the line out of the amp and come back to the Helix and use the head as my amp in the chain. Still go out through the IR and then to the Bose L1 compact onstage and XLR to front of house. And yeah...huge difference when using a real tube amp. I have to give a lot of credit to the tube modeling technology. But like a few have already said...you don't realize what's "missing" until you play through a great tube amp again. The "singing" notes, the articulation, the even ordered harmonics...it really is a difference. And surprisingly enough...people in the audience are hearing it too. I already had people telling me that I had one of the best tones out front of anyone they had ever heard. (I play live here in Las Vegas...so there's some pretty stiff competition). But since I've gotten the Mesa in the chain...not only do I have people coming up telling me that my sound has went up a level (I tell them it's new P.A. gear lol), but my playing and technique have jumped up as well. Can't explain what it is except to say: The amp models are real close...but the Mesa head tones feel like molten butter underneath my fingers. Puts me in a "zone" when I'm playing and a big smile on my face. I still have my tube amp model presets as well (just in case the amp head ever goes down). And I could easily just switch to those and be right back in business. But if that happened, I'd be moving heaven and Earth to get this Mesa head fixed as fast as possible and back in the chain.
  4. This is what I'm using: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/L1Compact--bose-l1-compact-system And yes it is behind me like a traditional amp, it's FRFR, AND it has a separate input for your microphone to use it as a vocal monitor as well. Also uses technology that disperses the sound out into the crowd in an ear-pleasing manner. And you will be able to hear it perfectly as the mid/high section is a "tower" at ear level to you. I play classic rock in my band. And we play everything from Billy Idol to Stevie Ray. I easily keep up with the drummer. We play in nightclubs. Hope that helps.
  5. Keep in mind that the Helix has been on the market for 3 years (got mine in the first shipment to Sweetwater Music in Oct. 2015). So it's only a couple of years younger than the HOG2...and it's not a dedicated effect. It's multi-effects plus modeling.
  6. Sounds pretty tight for that kind of dropped D rhythm playing. How does it sound with traditional tuning and full chords? Articulation good with all notes ringing out while still maintaining crunchy goodness?
  7. Hey, I saw in one of your replys that you aren't really sure what an IR is. It's an "Impulse Response" which is the equivalent of a speaker cabinet and microphone. So you would use it in place of one of the stock speaker cabs in the Helix. A lot of us use them because they generally sound better and more authentic than the stock cabs. My guess is that the IR's are already on your Helix and you just aren't aware of how to get to them yet. They wouldn't be showing up on the Helix editor unless they are on the Helix itself.
  8. I'm now using a Mesa Triple Crown Amp. And I too found that trying to go out of a send in Helix to the amp input was horrible. I guess because it's not true bypass. I don't use any effects in front of the amp except wah..so I changed it up and bought a crybaby. Now I go from guitar to crybaby to amp input and then out of line out on the amp back to return 1 on the helix. I set input on helix to return 1 and set that to line level. Then I come out of my 1/4 inch to my frfr and xlr to front of house. Using midi to control the mesa with my snapshots. Sounds incredible.
  9. That's weird...every car manufacturer for the last 100+ years has released all kinds of info about their new models in advance. I guess they didn't get the "legal implications" memo. lol Also I'm pretty sure that I see months of advance commercials touting the features of the next model I-Phone or Samsung Galaxy long before they are released. I've read this many times on here that it's some kind of legal mumbo-jumbo. But reality is...it's simply Line 6 company policy. They CHOOSE not to divulge what and when the next updates are going to be. I'm sure they have good reasons in their minds. It could be as simple as not wanting to show their hand to the competition for all we know.
  10. robbieb61

    Helix LT vs Ax8

    I've always had a great sound. But I'm never satisfied with it. Lol It's like searching for the holy grail. As far as a noise gate... I have always preferred amp distortion to pedals. So for my lead channels it required noise gate to keep down the hiss and/or feedback between notes in a lead. For my sound... the Archon amp model in Helix was the best one for me. But it definitely needed a noise gate to keep it quiet and from feeding back between notes (I play in a live band here in Vegas ). The Mesa needs it as well on the lead channel...but the gate settings are very, very low. Not a lot of hiss and noise. I could actually turn it off if I wanted to...but I like to keep my sound cleaned up and professional as possible.
  11. robbieb61

    Helix LT vs Ax8

    I'm using a Bose L1 Compact. Sounds great! Kind of expensive...but lightweight and kicks butt (had to edit that to the word "butt" because apparently one of the terms for "donkey" is deemed to not be appropriate for full grown adults to use)
  12. robbieb61

    Helix LT vs Ax8

    I know this will probably cause a firestorm. But I pulled the trigger on a Mesa TC-50 rackmount. I'm using the 4 cable method with the Helix. Eliminated using any amp models of the Helix. And I'm using an IR of a Marshall cab for the crunch and lead tones and the Helix 4x10 Fender cab model for clean. And guess what? I don't have to use ANY high cuts at all. None of the theories of how a microphone on a real cab picks up "fizz" are the problem. There is no fizz when using the Mesa as the amp in the chain. Even though I'm still using the same exact IR that I used with amp models in Helix. And now with no high cuts I have a beautiful creamy tone again. (The TC-50 has an internal load box and a "speaker off" switch...so I'm still running FRFR). The "fizz" is in the amp models. With the TC-50 replacing the amp models...all my sounds are smooth as butter and tons of sustain. I'm also using MUCH less noise gate settings than I had to with the amp models. Not sure if anybody really cares...I know I was pretty happy with the sound I was getting using the amp models and making the high cuts. But the difference now is night and day. No more digital fizz at all, no high cuts, and those frequencies that I was cutting were indeed removing a lot of the tonality. I didn't realize it until I heard the difference. Just tossing that in. It doesn't matter to me now. The Helix is now a very cool multi-effects, cab-simulator, and midi control. I did have to buy a crybaby wah because using the Mesa the way I am doing it doesn't allow me to have the wah in the Helix in front of the amp. In order to get this bad boy dead quiet...you can't go from guitar to Helix and then a Send to the amp input. Terrible noise that required so much noise gate to remove it was unusable. But going from guitar to amp. Then "line out" of amp to "Return 1" (set to line level) and then the effects in Helix and the output to my FRFR (Bose L1 Compact) is simply AWESOME sounding.
  13. Hey guys...my TC-50 will be here tomorrow (Friday). So I downloaded the owners manual and went in to the Helix to go ahead and program the midi to control the amp ahead of time. But the Instant Change commands don't seem to save to the individual snapshots. Is that because I don't have the TC-50 hooked up via midi yet (since it's not here)? Or am I missing something else? What I did was I chose Snapshot 1. Went into command center. Set up Instant change one to send midi cc to turn on the "Crunch" channel of the TC-50 (or "Lo" as it's called on the amp). Then I set up Instant change 2 to send the midi cc to turn on the effects loop on the amp. Then I clicked on the button for Snapshot 2. But the Instant Change commands I set up for Snapshot 1 were still there. So I thought maybe that's how it works and I need to change them to what I need for Snapshot 2. So for that I needed to change to the "Hi" channel on the amp. So I put that midi cc in the Instant change 1 But then when I went back to Snapshot 1...I see that it's showing what I had just inputted for Snapshot 2. Is it just because I don't have the actual amp hooked up via midi yet? Or am I missing a step?
  14. True...UNLESS you make a mistake on stage! LOL! Then they ALL seem to notice. :)
  15. Heh-heh...I glanced at the list of threads and saw this one. I did a double take because at first I thought your username was "Jesus Scares" lol Then I looked again and realized it's "Jesus Cares" For a second there I thought you might have had the coolest goth-emo style username of all time. lol
  16. I tried out the "Voice Box" filter in Helix. It's pretty useless if you are trying to replicate a "talk box" effect like Joe Walsh or Peter Frampton. But since my band does do a few songs with talkbox in them I too needed a solution. What I ended up doing was purchasing the EHX "Talking Machine" pedal and looping it in. It gets real close with vocal sounds (just make sure to use the fuzz in the pedal along with the effect and put it through a clean amp...any amp with gain on it and the effect kind of disappears) and I use it on "Rocky Mountain Way" and "Sweet Emotion" in our set list. I tried my best to get the "Voice Box" legacy filter to come close...but it's not even a contest. The EHX is miles above it. Plus if you ever want to "experiment"....it has tons of sounds other than just a talk box:
  17. robbieb61

    Helix LT vs Ax8

    Well...I was able to set up my Helix at home tonight. :) Took the hi-cut off of the IR. Put the hi-cut eq block in. And found that I was able to cut at 10 khz. MUCH better! Now I still have some "sizzle" without a lot of "fizz" on my lead and high gain crunch tones. Thanks for the advice. :)
  18. robbieb61

    Helix LT vs Ax8

    That's just me talking bro. You can quote my part of the discussion all day long. That's what "discussing" stuff is about. I think you might be misunderstanding me. You COULD have also quoted all the times I said in this thread that I am getting a monster tone and love my Helix. Anyway, didn't come into this conversation to get you trying to psychoanalyze me. Just wanted to talk about the unwanted fizz in the Helix. Sorry if that somehow got under your skin. Don't know you and had no intention of doing that. I was merely giving my opinion.
  19. robbieb61

    Helix LT vs Ax8

    Not really an "issue" for me. Just a discussion. :)
  20. robbieb61

    Helix LT vs Ax8

    I understand that.. but I have worked with a lot really great soundman playing across the country for decades. And they never had to put high cuts on my amp. I always tried for a good mid rangey tone. My soundman would shove an SM 57 right up on the grill about halfway between center and edge of the speaker and we were done. Our soundguys always had the PA "rung out" using pink noise and an analyzer. My studio recordings were pretty much the same. And once pro tools came along I started producing my own stuff back around 2002. Never had to do that kind of high cuts in post production. Just doesn't seem right to me that this fizz is so predominant on our higher gain amps in helix
  21. robbieb61

    Helix LT vs Ax8

    I hear ya...BUT, still...having "fizz" in the highs is the real problem. Not just high end itself. Adjusting the high end should be the function of the tone controls on the amp in my humble opinion. To me, it seems like Line 6 is putting too MUCH high end on the amp in the first place. And as I said earlier...they could at least make a few presets for the higher gain amps that have the precise cuts needed to remove fizz so that users would have a great starting point to create their tones without having to spend time searching online for answers and then more time trying to get it right. Seems to me that we are having to be kind of heavy handed in our method of getting rid of fizz by zapping all the high end out out. Like we aren't just getting the "fizz", but also some of the frequencies that add texture to the high end. For instance...I don't use ANY cuts on my clean sounds. Don't need to. And when I do...they lose that "shimmer" even though the frequency being cut theoretically shouldn't affect it.
  22. robbieb61

    Helix LT vs Ax8

    I suppose I should probably just leave what I have then. I'm getting a great tone with it. Just can't help that nagging feeling that I'm still "losing" something in the upper harmonic content of the tone by using those high cuts. I guess that will always be something in the back of my mind.
  23. robbieb61

    Helix LT vs Ax8

    I originally was using the parametric EQ instead of the cut in the IR. But, I wasn't happy with it and seem to get a warmer tone with the cut in the IR over the parametric. I may revisit this later in the week when I have a night off from gigging. What is the recommendation on which EQ to use for the cuts? And where should it be placed? Before the IR? After the IR? At the very end of the chain? (I have effects like delay and reverb at the very end AFTER the IR...so my cuts are happening in the IR and then going out to the reverb and delay and then the output)
  24. robbieb61

    Helix LT vs Ax8

    Yeah, I suppose that if you record everyone at once instead of laying down tracks separately that COULD be a factor. But most studios have everyone wearing headphones and PHYSICALLY isolated. And when I've done studio work...it was almost always laying down the track by myself. And the couple of times I was in a studio doing recording for promo for the band that has us recording together like a "live" band...my amp was still in an isolation booth. Once I even recorded using one of those "isolation cabinets" which have the entire cab enclosed on all four sides with the microphone built inside the cab and an XLR out to the board. Never, ever thought of mic'ing technique having "isolation reasons" as the primary reason for close mic'ing a guitar amp...because it just isn't. And that's what that guy said in his opening statement. He said that amps are close mic'ed PRIMARILY for isolation reasons. Just not true at all.
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