MarkJarvis Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Now that the 'save' has been replaced by a weird little box (greys/highlightswhen save option) I wonder if I missed the memo on why this was changed or if its some preference somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 That is the save button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkJarvis Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 Hi Phil I know that (duh) but it used to save 'save' now it doesnt and thats kinda annoying Maybe you like it better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 You’re upset that it doesn’t actually say “Save” on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Maybe they're running out of things to improve on Helix, or were just bored one day, so why not start messing around with button icons, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkJarvis Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 For an Uber Guru Phil not exactly impressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunedinDragon Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 19 minutes ago, MarkJarvis said: For an Uber Guru Phil not exactly impressed For a supposed "grown up" MarkJarvis, we're not much impressed either.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 The point of an ICON is that it's an OBVIOUS representation of something. A new user would NOT recognize that icon as representing the function SAVE. That particular icon usually means DOWNLOAD, not SAVE. Best practices in GUI design (at least as I learned it) has always been to use pop-up Tool Tips with icons. EDIT - NBD, just pointing out a possible reason for OP's confusion. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkJarvis Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 what ever...just trying to figure out of the SAVE wording is missed by anyone else @rs2rk exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, MarkJarvis said: For an Uber Guru Phil not exactly impressed I wasn't even trying to be particularly snarky (for once!). I read your first post as saying the Save button was completely missing, and I was just pointing out that it was still there. Not sure I understand why having the actual text on it matters that much as long you know what the button does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkJarvis Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 Yeah i agree, but as its been pointed out the icon button isn't exactly obvious and also its been a SAVE dialog forever and now oh we need to remove that 'save text'for something less obvious...how about a dimm box with no dialog? great idea But sure, eventually even dummies like me figure out thats the 'new and improved' save option. I just thought maybe its some hidden preference...and yeah I miss the 'save' dialog..as it was obvious a change was made..now its not so obvious.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_Crocco Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 It threw me for a loop for about two seconds, but then I figured out I can change the colors of my snapshot switches by left clicking on them and everything was OK again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Wake me when there's a legitimate gripe to whine about.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkJarvis Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 Its legit..it just doesn't fall into the typical reports.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Burning calories on this is comical, is what it is...who bloody cares if the save button is a pink polka dot, or the googly-eyed $h*t-pile emoji? Does it work? Yes. Next.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 If this is the most serious complaint about 2.6, I'd say that L6 hit a home run! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkJarvis Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 Its not sooo serious..and in fact its a what ever kind of deal...just thought it was an odd move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsdenj Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Save in Helix Native seems more confusing. You have the choice to save to disk or library, that's fine, but there are some issues. When you select Library, a dialog pops up with the list of patches in a set. That would be ok, but seems redundant with the library view that's already displayed on the left. But the odd thing is that the current patch isn't selected by default. You can press the save button, but its not clear where the patch is saved. You have to actually select the patch you want to save, regardless of what is currently loaded. It would seem easier to have a simple Library > Save which saves to the currently loaded patch, and Library > Save As... to store someplace else. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRENDKILLCFH333 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 33 minutes ago, amsdenj said: Save in Helix Native seems more confusing. You have the choice to save to disk or library, that's fine, but there are some issues. When you select Library, a dialog pops up with the list of patches in a set. That would be ok, but seems redundant with the library view that's already displayed on the left. But the odd thing is that the current patch isn't selected by default. You can press the save button, but its not clear where the patch is saved. You have to actually select the patch you want to save, regardless of what is currently loaded. It would seem easier to have a simple Library > Save which saves to the currently loaded patch, and Library > Save As... to store someplace else. As a new user to Native, I agree on this. Would also be nice to have a basic save option that saves the preset to the PC and the Library as you currently have to save it twice for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmp22684 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 At least it has a power switch! I still think this is how it went down "Great job! Looks and sounds fantastic. Okay. Now how do I turn it off?" "Ummmmmm...." "Damnit Tim!" ~HD500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryWawak Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Had I not already known that was where the save button used to be, I would not have known the current button was the save button. I agree with the OP. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmp22684 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 #firstworldproblems 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Maybe Line 6 can use the depiction of a 3.5" floppy disk as the save icon like Microsoft still does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 hour ago, jbuhajla said: Maybe Line 6 can use the depiction of a 3.5" floppy disk as the save icon like Microsoft still does. ICONic, for those of us old enough to remember what a floppy disk was....what icon would you use for an SSD?.....I'm thinking that MS is waiting to change that until they get EVERYTHING into the cloud.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, rd2rk said: ICONic, for those of us old enough to remember what a floppy disk was....what icon would you use for an SSD?.....I'm thinking that MS is waiting to change that until they get EVERYTHING into the cloud.... The cloud is computer company speak for, "We don't glean enough info about you the way it is. We want access to everything you save on your hard drive." Although I'm sure no one will actually ever betray that trust. :rolleyes: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup1955 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 On 7/5/2018 at 11:16 PM, JerryWawak said: Had I not already known that was where the save button used to be, I would not have known the current button was the save button. I agree with the OP. Yep. Same here.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsdenj Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 21 hours ago, brue58ski said: The cloud is computer company speak for, "We don't glean enough info about you the way it is. We want access to everything you save on your hard drive." Although I'm sure no one will actually ever betray that trust. :rolleyes: Cloud computing is about centralizing the administration and maintenance of hardware and software resources to provide efficient, effective computing services. Its about having a shared utility rather than a bunch of individual computation "generators". Harvesting and exploiting information is an unfortunate outcome of our connected world. Cloud computing doesn't really make that worse, just more efficient. Since we know this is happening, we need to take more responsibility for managing and securing our own information, and for assessing the quality and validity of the information sources we consume. This is part of what has motivated me to stop using Facebook. Its a way of controlling what information I give out, and an expression of concern about what Facebook has been doing with our information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, amsdenj said: Cloud computing is about centralizing the administration and maintenance of hardware and software resources to provide efficient, effective computing services. Its about having a shared utility rather than a bunch of individual computation "generators". Harvesting and exploiting information is an unfortunate outcome of our connected world. Cloud computing doesn't really make that worse, just more efficient. Since we know this is happening, we need to take more responsibility for managing and securing our own information, and for assessing the quality and validity of the information sources we consume. This is part of what has motivated me to stop using Facebook. Its a way of controlling what information I give out, and an expression of concern about what Facebook has been doing with our information. Simple, obvious, and effective solution that works now. But at some point, it seems these sorts of actions won't be possible anymore because a person's control of information they both send and receive will decrease, in addition to a decrease in the possibility of maintaining a level of disconnection from the digital world. So societies will adapt and accept the exploitation of their most personal of information, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Since I (humorously) introduced the "cloud" to this totally unrelated subject, allow me to interject that hitting the SAVE button and sending your Helix preset to a storage device in "the cloud" will not likely subject you to either identity theft or CIA scrutiny. Although, I suppose if you're in the habit of naming your presets after famous assassins or jihadists.....wait, is that a black helicopter hovering silently outside my window.....and me fresh out of tin foil..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meiannatee Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Actually I have a legitimate (minor) annoyance with the new save button in the editor. Previously there was a "save to" function where one could save an edited patch to another location. Can it still be done on the editor now? It still can be done on the floor unit though. Background info: I use it quite a lot for when messing with a preset, finding a good sound, then saving to some other preset slot to do A/B comparison with the original Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 46 minutes ago, Meiannatee said: Actually I have a legitimate (minor) annoyance with the new save button in the editor. Previously there was a "save to" function where one could save an edited patch to another location. Can it still be done on the editor now? It still can be done on the floor unit though. Background info: I use it quite a lot for when messing with a preset, finding a good sound, then saving to some other preset slot to do A/B comparison with the original There’s never been a “Save To” button in HX Edit... A number of people have been asking for it, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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