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Hi HonestOpinion Let me start by saying that I read yours and other threads about how Line6 handle the input impedance on Helix and I agree with you and others that this could be done in a different way. In my cheat sheet on the last page I refer to the source of this information, Tito83 on TGP. This info has been published in many different excel sheets and threads/forums. I used this two both referring to Tito83. Cross checked them for differences and linked my master XL for the pdf to one of those XL and read them in, to avoid typos… https://www.dropbox.com/s/5va73nbgn62gja2/Helix Effect Impedance Chart.xlsx?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/l947lpmwhplwm3x/Helix 2.90 Amp Cabs Effects Impedance List.xlsx?dl=0 Exact how those values are determined I can’t say. I have seen it as it is each specific effects input impedance, probably from data sheet for each effect. As Helix models several parameters incl impedance I guess it will be used as in real life, the position in effect chain will affect the sound depending on where you place it. When this subject comes up in different forums there is mostly those two XL-sheets that are being referred to. So I used what looked like “common info” and added this to the sheet. If I’m wrong and someone has better info or another way of describing it, I correct it. I see it as a hint how each pedal behaves, not how Helix determining the input impedance (which is strange…). Regarding the amps I think you are right, but in the XL-sheets I found stated 1M to all amps and didn’t question it at this time. I actually checked a few schematics (some Fender and Marshall) but they looked like 1M. I hade another goal in this update, that I gave up at this time, to add DSP-load :-)… In this case I didn’t do it as I could not find consistent info, and it was complicated to add it into the sheet. My goal with the sheet itself is to have basic info in one place, info that can affect the end result. The info I included are info found on different places and formats. But it has to be correct, so I take feedback if I should do it different or even take it away if it confuses or are wrong. I’m a Line6 guy all in and haven’t dig into how other companies do the impedance thing. Probably have the same struggle as Line6… Sorry for another long post :-) and my broken English… //Per

Hi Wow, so many reactions on my post. Thank you so much. Donkelley – Thanks for your kind word. I’m glad it can contribute to have more fun with your HX. What I can’t contribute so much in is your need for "EVERYONE NEEDS THESE ITEMS TO USE A HELIX". First my rig is quite simple and there is so many sources that can give those answers too your specific needs. An answer I general dislike myself so I give you my 5 cent based on my perspective (have no “handbook” to share but my experience as a playing guitar and used modelers since 1998, from XT, POD HD Pro and now HX LT last 4 years). There is a learning curve, quite steep, to use modelers so also Helix. I think one of the big challenges are to understand that this is not an amp in the room, it’s a micked amp “seen” from a control room or in live situation is what the audience hear. Another challenge is the attempt to use patches made by someone else. I have done this on my earlier modelers and have done it on my Helix. It’s rare to find a god patch that works for your needs. But, it can be used e see how other think, good or bad. Now and then I find a patch I can tweak to my liking. So, my advice (feel someone else has given this on this forum, so its stolen) – Start make your own patches and start simple. Use an amp you have a relation to and make some simple patches by adding some effects. Eg a touch of delay and reverb and maybe a odd/dist pedal. Tweak and see what happen and how you can reach something you like. Go from there and add the complexity you need , endless of opportunities… If I would recommend a template to have as a starting point I would recommend Jason Sadites templates. There is an older from like 2018 that I used a lot and tweaked depending of what I needed. The new TemplateLAStudio is the same as the old one but use som 2.9 features (the hi/lo Shelf EQ), but I have not tried it yet – you find them here (Floor/LT or Stomp) - https://line6.com/customtone/profile/jaysadites/. Use online resources, there is so many good places to find information that is not in the manual, here are some This Helix forum – This has been my mane sours of information during my “modeling career”. So much knowledge, so many different experiences and so many that are willing to share. Line6 Knowledge base and there videos - Jason Sadites on Youtube, worth repeating – You find so much more on different topics, https://www.youtube.com/user/gtr111/videos. A great place to learn small and big things. Yesterday I saw his video about Ducking Delay, made me go from total failure on every earlier attempt in using it to be my favorite… The Gear Page, TGP - https://www.thegearpage.net/. Under “Digital & Modeling Gear” there is endless with info. A bit hard to navigate and find as its not just a Helix Forum, but many real good topics and a lot of knowledge. Just to mention my simple rig. It’s actually in basic my LT with my guitar in one end and the other end connected to my “mini PA”. To go a bit deeper, I have a couple of single and humbucker guitars and an old Variax 500 that works great. I have a small pedal board hosting my wireless receiver and two pedals (Blues drive and a boost, residues I can't live witout from my old pedalboard). The LT then hooks to a small mixer to mix backing tracks from PC and/or if I play with someone I hook them up here. The mixer I connected to a small PA amp (InterM 500) and ends in “FRFR”-like speakers (modded "hifi-speakers"). Don’t know if this was what you were looking for but hope it gave a clue/lead to move on to next step… sorry for my broken english, swedish is may native... //Per

Hi Thanks for reply. Just a quick feedback on how it went. Short version is that it a updated and working unit, both the Stomp and the PC. The little longer version is that I after validating the PC status I decided to update Stomp on my PC. Worked on first attempt, 2.92 loaded and finished in less then 5 minuts. The PC was another story. My guess was that by mistake all drivers except the one for the Stomp was selected when the 2.82 was installed. I also installed and run CClean and found a lot of register errors and system junk, my conclusion was that the PC needed som love to be in shape. So installed IObit Uninstaller and marked all Line6 applications to be removed, that also takes care of register entries/residues for the old Edit installation. After that I run CCleaner to get read of system junk and clean up of the registry. Rebooted the PC and made a new installation of the Edit 2.92 (with the Stomp still turned off...) with all the drivers checked. Turned on the Stomp and hold my breath... The stomp booted fine and short after the Edit connected and all was running nice and stable. First attempt :-) I guess I could have done it either way, but after a closer look at the PC-status I hade to take care of the PC and limit what could go wrong. Again, thanks for the moral support... this forum rocks. Take care //Per

Hi Tonight I will update an HX Stomp that belongs to a friend. Has a LT myself , fully functional incl. PC and Edit in top trim. My friend has updated the Stomp to 2.80 but for some reason his Laptop does not recognizance the Stomp, Edit does not see the Stomp (a classic...). Have two choices 1- Connect the Stomp to my working PC with Edit 2.92 and upgrade the Stomp. That is, I then know the Stomp works and can communicate. When it works, I will try to make his Laptop work too. 2- Cleans out his Edit installation and installs Edit 2.92 and tries to update directly from his Laptop. The risk is that the Laptop does not have a working USB port or has an shaky Windows installation (Win 10 Pro). There is an additional way here and it is to install Edit 2.80 and take this in a little smaller steps. A little afraid of bugs that can cause me trouble though. Which tactics would you choose? Or maybe there is someone even better ... Thank you in advance and sorry for short notice //Per

Thanks surfsup1955, glad it comes into use for someone else then me. Now I'm waiting for 3.0 so I can up date it again, hope i come soon :-) //Per

Hi Have made a new version, 2.92, of my Cheat Sheet, Line6 Helix Model Summary, for the ones who still like it on a printed sheet or as a file on your PC/MAC. All models up to firmware 2.92 are in there and as usual they are in the order of appearance on the unite. Have cleaned the sheet up a bit (preparing for 3.0 and all new amps, cabs and effects :-)) and have added some more info – Input impedance for effects and reset/restore key combos incl what the different key combos do. Else, same format as before. Download it from my Dropbox here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/90d6cv09rhzqrks/Line6 Helix-Model Summary%2C P2%2C92-05.pdf?dl=0 Have fun //Per

I used the UnO-chip for years to control different equipment and is absolutely outstanding in price performance. Made the FCB to go from a cheap controller to be a swiss army knife (in controller perspective :-). I also bought the Control Center editor (scroll down on the page rd2rk gave you). That gives a great overview of what you are doing and can make quick changes. In other words, can skip to push buttons on the FCB and actually get a view of what you are doing. UnO and the Control Center, best investment… So sorry I sold it as I invested in a HX LT and thought I did't need it anymore, so stupid. Take care //Per

Hi Jump in here of curiosity… Reason is I see problems described that blames Line6 for buggy software but some of it are more related to PC-problems (a device that is highly depending on the user in what stat it is and need some knowledge to keep in shape for real time applications and what hw/sw installed, isn’t going to get into that know). Some know for years, some form experience. Many of them are described by Line6 power users/gurus so many times. A lot of energy can be lost if barking on the wrong tree instead of directing the energy where problems are. One comment from DiveBlack on Line6 drivers “… Don’t want to deinstall it because of the buggy Line6 Driver…”. I don’t se any evidence that the Line6 drivers are buggy. By experience however, I have had problems with Logitech applications and software many times. For years I have run their products on the standard win drivers (mouse and keyboard). I hade a BSOD the other week and my conclusion was that the update I made of the G Hub software was the problem. Removing it corrected the problem. If it crashed with the L6 driver or something else, have no idea, but it was after update of that software. Two other important parts here is what DunedinDragon said – Use the correct HXEdit-version when you make the update and use an USB-port not shared by anything else. If it fails try another one. But all that are in the Line6 instructions for the update. Maybe can add, try another USB-cable. The one included from Line6 is not that good. One thing I think Line 6 should include in the software is to warn the user if trying to run Edit and Updater at the same time. The new installation procedure take care of it but still there looks like situations that you need to use the Updater. The last comment “I had to close like almost all my apps spotify, and also Logitech G Hub after that it worked fine”. My comment on this is – NEVER EVER have ANY open applications when installing applications, drivers, utilities or what ever on a Windows machine, that is to ask for trouble. A good idea is to also check what is running in the background. For a starter, get eg CClean (or other tool) and under tools check what is auto starting, is all needed and is there anything that can interfere, close it. Hope your update can run smoother next time and take advantage of the latest releases. It’s a fantastic toy to play with… Sorry for a long post… Take care //Per

Hi If you go to the Downloads menu and select your device and operating system you can scroll though all release notes for the last and earlier releases. What potential bugs you run in to depends on what functions you use so it hard to advice. They also state known issues, so you have a chance to avoid or at least be aware of limitation when you know/see the them. From 2.82 (I can’t find any 2.88) and forward there is just three releases so not that much to read (most of it are installations instructions, very important). I try to read them to be aware of them. As a blues player I’m a very simple user so rarely run into any bugs. But, I always read the release notes to have an idea what the conditions are in the release and to identify any changes in the installations procedure, to get the update to runs smoothly. And they always do, not one glitch for the four years I used my HX LT. Take care //Per

Update whent like a breeze, again... till now, never a failed update from my xt, hd pro and now my 3 year old hx lt. Running my pc with win 10. Take care /Per

Hi Rocco_Crocco On request, my model list for HX 2.91 in pdf - https://www.dropbox.com/s/bia0fithyfvbyvt/Line6 Helix-Model Summary%2C 2%2C91-P1.0-01.pdf?dl=0 On last page I updated the boot up/switch combination and run into trouble on the second from bottom - If anyone can confirm that 5&12 is doing as I have written. I found different descriptions. Hope this works... let me know of suggestions for improvement. Made one, moved all "instructions to last page. Leaves room for more models :-), 3.0 next... Also have to send a big thanks to Line6 on this update - Great new updaters and an totally flowless update process (again, never ever have had one failure on an update on any gear from Line 6, have been a user from POD/PODXT/POD HD PRO and now HX LT). So slick... Take care /Per

Hi Good to hear. Yes, either tomorrow or next weekend. Havn't had time to install 2.9 yet and I want to have all in same order as thay appers the hx. //Per

Make a "standard preset" and store it under templates. I have 3 or 4 I use as a startingpoint. Some with just effect chain and some inc amps and tweek from there. /Per

If you just whant the list you are wellcome to use this - https://www.dropbox.com/s/d6jyu6p3148nz5y/Line6 Helix-Model Summary%2C 2%2C80-P1.0-02.pdf?dl=0. There are two link in the top of the first page, one to helixhelp.com with some more detailed info. Or if you whant it in webb format /Per

Hi I think we talk about two different things here, at list it's for me. I use my ears to dial in a great tone. I use the meter to not be surprised when changing patch, change snapshot, engage a stomp, switch guitar etc. Well I can see a few things more, but I’m recognize a good tone when I hear one. Not by relying on a meter, just to get a little help on the way there. I get that with or without the meter, but its a good tool on the journey. If you don't need it/whant to use it, just don't. As all feature in the Helix, they are free to use. And, The Helix is the best investment I done music instrument wise. Looking forward to be able to use it more next year. And its only 50 minuts to next year :-) //Per

Hi Just as a post in the debate about level indicator in Helix – Conclusion is that there is none yet and we don’t know when/if it will come or how it will work. Also, that different people have different needs. And as in my case, I'm much less experienced then many of you are. What I noticed was that depending on how my ears/brain perceived different sounds, depending on my daily shape, made my patches spread a lot both in level and tone. So, to adjust my patches so they ended up at about same level I have used a LUFS meter. Just to have a starting point and to see that my levels do not climb above, peaks less then -7db and get a LUFS-reading at about -18db. This will also be the level I return to and listen to if I make tonal changes that change the overall levels. Same goes for pedals to avoid jumps in level when on/off. I do final finish at home at a much higher volume, usually end up about right, but sometimes have to fine tune the levels after tonal changes. Again, the ears are important but handy to have something as a reference , to be in the ballpark. A little faster and a little easier, get more focus on the tone. Think it has been in topics before, but here are two videos from Jason Sadites that I think sums it up pretty well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE3IBSfc62Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zeje2AR54Sw I use a LUF meter from Youlean which is free (available in a more advanced version for a small amount of money) and can be used standalone (no need but can be used in a DAW) and connects my PC via USB to Helix. Here is a link: https://youlean.co/youlean-loudness-meter/ Another one that seems popular is the Orban loudness meter https://www.orban.com/freeorbanloudnessmeter. Also, convenient to have both Youlean and Edit next to each other. So easy to keep everything in level, turning on/off objects in the signal chain and to know its under control. Slipt in a screenshot below. Take opportunity to wish you all a Happy New Year and thank you for all good info you supply into this forum... and, maybe hope for at least a input clip indicator :-) //Per

The update went like a breeze, again ... even though I run Win 10 ;-)) //Per

Hi I successfully updated my Helix LT to 2.81 today. Took less than 30 minutes (actually don't know as I had coffee and ice-cream outside in the sun and it was ready when I came back). I made the 2.80-upgrade when it came out, also that went without any problems. And, this has been my experience from my start with Line6-products starting 1998 with the POD (upgraded to 2.0 but that was a eprom-change :-) via POD XT and a POD HD Pro. Also have a Variax 500 (2003) that I still own and use. Never had a problem except a hardware problem on my POD HD, solved quickly by Line6 and their support. Never a software or update problem, feel lucky there. Thanks Line 6 for a grate work and another great update – Fullerton, Grammatico, Revv, KOT/POT and Dhyana Drive are all favorites now. So are Tilt and Shelf… Also, the hat off for everyone in this forum and at TGP who spend so much time helping to solve problems for those in trouble, with an endless patience. During all years I have been here I have seen an endless amount of knowledge pass through. An invaluable support that built my own knowledge and also proactively prevented me from running into problems, simply gave me more time to play music ... say this partly because you who put down this time should feel that there is a deep gratitude for your work. This update has been a challenge for quite a variety of reasons and makes this forum important. It also says that those who are looking for support here should not take it for granted, most show their respect/appreciation, but unfortunately there are those who either listen or show traces of gratitude for having access to this benefit... Thanks you all for helping us out when we need it. Hope the message goes through correct, English is not my native language, and don’t want to start a war :-) //Per

Rd2rk, found a bug in your code. Looking forward to an update IF you found 2.80 and 2.81 not meet your demand THEN revert to 2.71 OR go on vacation :-) /Per

Hi Got to my attention that I have two "buggs" in my Cheat Sheet... That is now corrected (swopt PoT and KoT and wrong description of the Script Phaser). You find the updated version, v02, here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/d6jyu6p3148nz5y/Line6 Helix-Model Summary, 2,80-P1.0-02.pdf?dl=0 Take care... /Per

Hi New version in Helix so a new version of my Cheat Sheet, Line6 Helix Model Summary, for the one who like it on a printed sheet or as a file on your PC/MAC. Have added the new models in 2.80 firmware. They are in the order of appearance on the unite. Same format as before. Download it from my Dropbox here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/d6jyu6p3148nz5y/Line6 Helix-Model Summary, 2,80-P1.0-02.pdf?dl=0 Have fun //Per Edit: Changed the link adress to the correct document

Hi Hope this helps - https://www.dropbox.com/s/w6pvbv1l0t0b5cf/Line6 Helix-Model Summary%2C 2%2C60-P1.0-01.pdf?dl=0 /Per

Hi I have a Helix LT with an “external” pedalboard, a few pedals I can’t leave – a compressor, my EP boost (different characteristic from the one in the helix) and my Monty Allums moded Boss BD2. Together with my wireless, Variax pwr unite, a Boss NS2 and an ISO transformer all mounted on a PT Novo 18. This is what’s left of my big board used with my PD HD Pro. Today they are all connected in serial. I would like to integrate it closer to the Helix and using a loop switch so I can turn the comp, EP and the BD2 on/off through a loop switch via MIDI from Helix and assigned switches. I have now drilled this down to two loop switches – G-Lab MIDI 4x Looper (fit on top of the board) and Decibel 11 Loop Extender (fit underneath the board). Price and size have mattered. I also looked at Voodolab HEX looks great but it’s expensive and more than I need, I think. I had an RJM Effect Gizmo, too big to fit my small board, so I sold it (a dream to use). So, my questions to you who have experience from loop switches in general and G-lab/Decibel 11 in particular. Any recommendation and what I should think of? Experience with the G-lab vs Decibel 11? Thanks //Per

Hi Is this what you are looking for? https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/line6-helix.1586637/page-3062#post-28096505

Good to hear Yes. it is a fantastic device. Inspires to to thing you didn't know you could do... and have just scratch the surface. //Per