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If you are expecting Helix+FRFR to sound like your Fender amp in your room, sorry, it wont happen in any configuration. What you'll be getting is a tone coming from a mic'ed amp, processed and diffused through FRFR speakers. It wont emulate the amp in the room. So first thing to understand is what kind of tone you are chasing, in the context of your precise expectations. :)

There is NOTHING to rectify or improve in that field. IT IS NOT the joystick that fail. IS A COLD/BAD SOLDERING that breaks, because of joint fatigue that happens when you use the "joystick". That may happen in 2015 or in 2030, unless they do change the front panel design. Would I have preferred the typical four directional buttons instead that joypad? Yes I would have (I do hate that wonky joystick, 2015 or 2020), but it is what it is, and there is nothing you can do, or say, or believe, that it will affect the reality. Hence the looping overthinking. When you send these units for repair, THEY DO NOT replace the joystick (unless you were using an hammer); they do just re-solder the wires with the potentiometer pins over there;

Even the seller doesnt have such information (year of assembly), nor the local distributor. You are indeed overthinking stuff you can't control in any way. There is still the chance you get a rack assembled in 2015, today in 2020, especially if you are in Europe like me, where the distribution has a bit of bottleneck with stocks. IIRC, you are waiting for a brand new unit; just sit, smile, and wait for it. Im sure you'll get plenty of fun as soon as it arrives. Just let it go. :)

Sell it and buy something else. Just find a way to move on.

It's in the Download page; Bug Fixes in 3.01 In extremely rare cases with specific blocks in a specific order, audio could become severely corrupted–FIXED In certain cases, the Delay > Glitch Delay can exhibit minor pops and clicks when placed on Path 2, regardless of where its Smoothing parameter is set (that is, not the good type of glitchiness)—FIXED Many other minor fixes and improvements

Do I still have volts in my wall sockets?

I dont have a stomp, but Rack with firmware 3.0.1 works perfectly fine with iOS devices, through the camera kit.

At tracking parity (as is now), then should be probably more DSP intensive, since you need to add another set of cycles to add "synthesis". At some point, I believe would be better to use an hexaphonic pickup driving a sound module, if you need real synth patches. Helix isn't a sound module, so all it can do is very basic OSC synthesis, which is really fun, but hard to use in a real context.

That Hog isnt doing what the Helix Poly Pitch is doing. Still apples and oranges....

I never said that sentence in the quote, but for some reason looks like you quoted me... some forum glitch. :D

Well prog and avantgard are indeed dead and buried in the market, but there is plenty of musicians that keeps experimenting and enjoying these tools. Remember 99.9% of guitar players on the planet, are not in the market (not taking into account youtube players), are just having fun and enjoying their own projects. Helix is a wonderful platform for them.

H9 DOES NOT have Polyphonic Pitch Detection, so we are indeed talking apples and oranges here.

What "eventide" did you played that had REAL polyphonic pitch shifting? I'm asking that because Eventide never had, and has, a real polyphonic pitch tracker algorithm (pitchFlex isnt a poly tracker, same goes for PitchFactor algos and so on backward in time), so I'm curious to see if we are comparing bananas with apples here or what. This is kind of funny, as we were always complaining about the lack of a proper polyphonic algo in the Eventide forums, LOL!

Could you post the results of your tests with those devices. Especially curious to listen that generic "eventide".... since all the eventide machines I owned in the past, they were TERRIBLE in tracking...and NONE of them actually do/did a real polyphonic pitch shifting. Please, don't tell me you don't own any of those...:)

Isn't really a matter of "ear" something others aren't. It's a matter of not making a fuss out of subtle glitches, and embrace the art of the constructive criticism instead the abuse of hyperboles. That's it for me at least. I ear the subtle warbles in that mp3 example, but in that context of isolation and hyper listening to single notes, doesn't really tell me anything crazy. Or at least, doesn't sounds like a red flag or a showstopper to me, at all. Not even close. I do think Poly is perfect? Nope. I said for example that a problem I have with it, it's the "pulse" tracking I do have, while playing a phrase under open notes. This can be annoying for my style, and I guess it can be improved, but still, it's a totally usable effect. When using big intervals it's WAY better than what I can achieve with my Variax, for example. For fast phraseggio is still good for me, as there is no time for warble analysis, notes are short, attack on high strings it's very good (can be improved on lower strings), and tone is in general better than those I get from other devices. Not perfect, but really good so far, especially if you are not using it as an alternative to a real detune. In that case, of course, it will never, ever, sound as good as a real detune. On the other hand, if you use the effect to reach sound environments which are not possible for a guitar, like to mimic other string instrument but with a much higher pitch (also with contribution of IRs and the new Acoustic sim), or to mimic some old synth pads, or to just experiment something isn't just a sequence of guitar chords trapped in a standard, then I'd say that Helix poly is good enough, with some range for great improvement. Peace. :)

You have a problem of abuse of hyperboles man. This is making impossible for people to just have a natural exchange of opinions, about any subject. "HORRIBLE ARTIFACTS". If this is is what you ear, means you cant really go any further in the subject, so just move on and ignore people who believe the effect is fine for them, unless you believe you're a benchmark for everyone. In this case, good luck. :)

This. :)

Sorry, that was my fault... was trying to help him finding a definitive answer, and move on... But he has a rack, so no Hardware Test UI, as far as I know. Im still 99% sure he has a faulty joystick, and should just send the unit for repair.

Is it a Rack or a Floor? You can start the unit in Diagnose/Hardware Test, and check if it's a faulty joystick. This is low level, so the firmware should not really matter.

Well, I have one of these very cheap BT receiver that works just fine with everything that has an analogic input available. You have just to plug two RCA to Jack cables into a stereo Return in the Helix, and load a Return Block at the end of the path.

Check you dont have a second path with a guitar input going through. Also, you could post the preset patch over here so people can check what's going on there.

I really believe we are talking two completely different things here. I was just describing that sort of lag or skipped bit, by the joystick. Same lag/skipped bit when browsing preset with the other rotary selector. What Im talking about it's just a little glitch but doesnt break any of the the joystick main functionalities. Your seems a faulty joystick, or just a soldering issue. (I had two of these, in 3 years, with my previous Helix unit) Contact the L6 support.

On my end, it does keep logging out, even just browsing the threads...and this is with every single device; PC, Smartphone, Windows, MacOS, iOS etc...

BlueSky is an "old" pedal, and has no MIDI support. As for the MIDI support with other Strymon products, you find all you need to know here (on the Helix you just send CCs and PCs as for any other MIDI device); https://www.strymon.net/faq/how-can-i-control-volante-with-midi/ https://www.strymon.net/using-midi-to-control-your-pedals/ https://www.strymon.net/using-midi-control-pedals-2/ Love me Strymon stuff!

At this point, the only thing L6 could add to keep people busy more than few days, before asking for more, is adding free Pornhub access from the Helix display.