Melonos Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 The new firmware 2.6 will be available in mid April. man, this is ridiculous. Why do they need so long? big announcement but nothing happens. seems to be only an advertising promise 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 if that date is true... and i have no reason to believe that it is or isn't.... but if we accept that.... it's only saying that the update would be 2 weeks later than previously promised.... a small amount of time to wait... especially as that means they are finding and fixing issues, adding more features, or giving it a good test before releasing. all very worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 if that date is true... and i have no reason to believe that it is or isn't.... but if we accept that.... it's only saying that the update would be 2 weeks later than previously promised.... a small amount of time to wait... especially as that means they are finding and fixing issues, adding more features, or giving it a good test before releasing. all very worthwhile. Well you have to consider the source. This is the same guy, who in another thread repeatedly asserts that by waiting another month to buy your 500X, it will magically pop out of the box with the new firmware, plus all the new model packs, all for free. He's confused...I wouldn't put much stock in anything he has to say about release dates. He could be getting his info from tea leaves or a Ouija board for all we know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhandy Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 We also have to consider the source. This is the same guy, who in another thread repeatedly asserts that by waiting another month to buy your 500X, it will magically pop out of the box with the new firmware, plus all the new model packs, all for free. He's confused... I´m not confused. And information about release date is an answer to one my support ticket. I just put it here for share with all members. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arislaf Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 That is very bad... I hope I will still be in Greece when the will release it for HD500... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhandy Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I just put one print screen. Look at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_Igloo Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Reading his posts again, I think he is saying that the GLOBAL EQ requires DSP to run (just like any other fx) but they needed to guarantee that there will always be sufficient spare DSP for it to run with existing patches that users have already made specifically those that are already close the MAX DSP usage - otherwise those users are going to be very angry when they discover they have to change their existing patches to make use of the new GLOBAL EQ. So to prepare for this eventuality they looked at ways of making the existing code for amps and fx more efficient so they use slightly less DSP, and they were successful in optimising existing code meaning that anyone with a patch that is currently very close to max DSP usage will still be able to use that existing patch at the new firmware level with the GLOBAL EQ switched on and not hit the DSP limit. Exactly. And depending on what models you're using, you might see a tiny bit of extra DSP headroom on top of getting Global EQ. With other models, you won't see a difference at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_Igloo Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 sure hope the eq will be switchable. and if it is, there must be extra dsp free. 5band eq with lo and hi cut might take a little over 4% hopefully The Global EQ is switchable (press ENTER while on the Setup > Global EQ screen), but it's.... global.... so you don't get any extra DSP if it's disabled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_Igloo Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 And information about release date is an answer to one my support ticket. I just put it here for share with all members. The support guys gave you our "official" release date, which is correct. Unofficially, we're still on track to release 2.6 and the model packs for HD500X and HD Pro X by the end of March, with support for HD500, HD Pro, and HD (Bean) shortly thereafter. Basically, nothing's changed since we announced release dates at NAMM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoguyy Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I don't understand why everyone is so concerned with an exact date. If everyone jumps on at the same time, y'all are gonna lollipop because it took so long to download because of the increased traffic. And quite frankly, if I even update it, its going to happen weeks later. Because it needs to wait until I hook it up to a PC with monkey. I have EDIT on computers for patch work, but I don't need Monkey on every pc. What is every one's rush to have an EQ that is only good when you are in a different environment? And as far as buying stuff... Again, the scenario will not play out like this: It gets released today, I bought it today, I set up my new patches today, I went out and gigged with it today. Someone complimented me on my new 5150 amp sound today. By the end of the show, 500 people showed up because they heard I have an awesome new sound, today. Or am I just out in left field with what I think is common sense stuff. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smrybacki Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 The support guys gave you our "official" release date, which is correct. Unofficially, we're still on track to release 2.6 and the model packs for HD500X and HD Pro X by the end of March, with support for HD500, HD Pro, and HD (Bean) shortly thereafter. Basically, nothing's changed since we announced release dates at NAMM. Define "shortly thereafter" please. To a mountain, an epoch is a short time after all...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_Igloo Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Define "shortly thereafter" please. With any luck, no more than a week or two. Surprises often happen, tho', and we won't release anything before we're confident it's solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smrybacki Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 With any luck, no more than a week or two. Surprises often happen, tho', and we won't release anything before we're confident it's solid. That's the ticket laddy...I'd rather wait an extra week and not be pissed off that it bricked my POD lol... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedae Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 The new firmware 2.6 will be available in mid April. It is not out yet. The firmware will be free, but if you want more aviable amps, that will cost money. The free firmware update will fix some security bugs, and add a global EQ setting. ... security bugs, for the FW for a non-network-connected device? Did somebody hear too many people talking about jailbreaking the POD? ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 They are surely adding security to protect the model packs from unauthorized use ... ... security bugs, for the FW for a non-network-connected device? Did somebody hear too many people talking about jailbreaking the POD? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Isn't anything after the 15th, technically the end of March? :D ;) Yeah, I know....but I can still dream, can't I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedae Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 They are surely adding security to protect the model packs from unauthorized use ... Oh, well, if you want to be *serious* about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjnette Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I'll admit I am keen for this firmware upgrade and that it flawless is important so a wait will be worth it. I keep checking LOL After the 15th is called the latter half of the month. LOL The end of the month is the last week or last several days of it. LOL We are all forgiven for our impatience as we cannot wait. But wait you must. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_Watt Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Engineering schedules are made to be missed. :) We want it right the first time so we will wait. I always try to wait a few days to see how a new FW release is accepted here before I go ahead and install it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel_brown Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 We've waited how many years for a Global EQ in the PODHD and we're complaining about a few more weeks ? I want patience and I want it now !!! hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefttygtr Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I am guessing we won't see the update until late May. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I'm confident, that's not going to be the case.... :D I am guessing we won't see the update until late May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceatl Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 We've waited how many years for a Global EQ in the PODHD and we're complaining about a few more weeks ? I want patience and I want it now !!! hehe. About 10 years for me....I have been missing the global EQ since the AX2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucleusX Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'm curious about something. Having read that the POD HD has an maximizer/exciter that can't be modified parameter-wise, did Line6 code monkeys remove this feature to fit the Global EQ in, or does the maximizer still exist when the Global EQ is disabled ? I aim to do some spectrum analysis on this when I get around to the update when its released, but I wouldn't mind knowing now if possible ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel_brown Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 The PODHD has a Maximizer/Exciter ? When did that happen ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingsCool Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Thanks for the reply. I will say that it sucks that Line6 is going to put the 500x first. I guess they have more users than the 500 owners? I hope that the update isn't a month or two past the 500x update. Unless you are a 500x owner...... :-/ I'm just happy they are still creating drivers and upgrading the systems, including the Desktop and 500. If that's not a plus, I don't know what is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceatl Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'm curious about something. Having read that the POD HD has an maximizer/exciter that can't be modified parameter-wise, did Line6 code monkeys remove this feature to fit the Global EQ in, or does the maximizer still exist when the Global EQ is disabled ? I aim to do some spectrum analysis on this when I get around to the update when its released, but I wouldn't mind knowing now if possible ? So where did you read that exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radatats Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'm curious about something. Having read that the POD HD has an maximizer/exciter that can't be modified parameter-wise, I believe you are referring to the cab resonance feature that some have likened to a sonic maximizer/exciter type effect. There is no other effect of that type in the POD and I doubt they will be disabling that for the global EQ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edstar1960 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I believe you are referring to the cab resonance feature that some have likened to a sonic maximizer/exciter type effect. There is no other effect of that type in the POD and I doubt they will be disabling that for the global EQ... I believe you are referring to the cab resonance feature that some have likened to a sonic maximizer/exciter type effect. There is no other effect of that type in the POD and I doubt they will be disabling that for the global EQ... If NucleusX is referring to the RESONANCE dep parameter then it is worth noting that it can be effectively disabled by moving RESONANCE value to zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_Igloo Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'm curious about something. Having read that the POD HD has an maximizer/exciter that can't be modified parameter-wise, did Line6 code monkeys remove this feature to fit the Global EQ in, or does the maximizer still exist when the Global EQ is disabled ? I aim to do some spectrum analysis on this when I get around to the update when its released, but I wouldn't mind knowing now if possible ? There's no maximizer/exciter that I'm aware of, unless you're talking about the various speaker mode filters. Nothing was omitted to make room for Global EQ; we squeezed it in by further optimizing the DSP code. There should be zero audible difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smrybacki Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 There's no maximizer/exciter that I'm aware of, unless you're talking about the various speaker mode filters. Nothing was omitted to make room for Global EQ; we squeezed it in by further optimizing the DSP code. There should be zero audible difference. Now optimizing DSP code isn't like when you rebuild a carburator and have spare parts, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel_brown Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Not even close. It's more like becoming quicker in how you take the carb apart and put it back together using fewer steps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smrybacki Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Not even close. It's more like becoming quicker in how you take the carb apart and put it back together using fewer steps. Ok, I walked into that lol Actually, I code for a living myself and it was sort of an inside joke lol...the bit bucket and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceatl Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Not even close. It's more like becoming quicker in how you take the carb apart and put it back together using fewer steps. You guys are giving my baby food jar nightmares of synching my old KZ1000 carbs...and adjusting the valves with shims...talk about analog.... :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smrybacki Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 You guys are giving my baby food jar nightmares of synching my old KZ1000 carbs...and adjusting the valves with shims...talk about analog.... :lol: It's good for ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_Watt Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Carbs? :) Haven't worked on one of them in what seems like a lifetime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smrybacki Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Carbs? :) Haven't worked on one of them in what seems like a lifetime! Ah the memories lol. That and setting timing plus points dwell and gap. I remember having to get out at times and twist the old distributor just to get home lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucleusX Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 It was quite some time ago, and I think rads explains this best, but I think someone was referring to cab parameters in that regard, where there was more bass and treble boost present than it should have and likened it to a maximizer effect, rather than the flat response you would expect from these parameters being set to zero. I've tried searching to no avail tho. Maybe someone else remembers this conversation ? In any case, wouldn't it be nice if we did in-fact have an exciter to play with. Nice to see new amps for sure, but FX seem to get neglected. I apologize for the confusion, thanks D.I. for your clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radatats Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 nope, I believe credit goes to Hurghanico for this discovery. Unfortunately I think that thread is gone... but yes, that is what he described, an exciter type effect applied to the cab model as resonance with the default being ON. If you want the dry cab turn the RES LEVEL to zero. THUMP and DECAY are also proportional to RES LEVEL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucleusX Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 When you say "dry", are you suggesting that the POD produces a flat response across the spectrum with all cab parameters zero'd off ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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