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On interesting thing that affects the sound more than you wold think is the resistance and capaitance of the pots. I haven't really messed with them myself but I remember being surprised by how much it affected the sound when I played with them.

Of course if you increase the outputs signal level it won't be unity. The unity I am referring to is if the path is totally clear with no blocks at all, the signal going in is the same going out when the output is set at 0dB. That's what unity is in this regard.

The Helix is at unity when turned all of the way up.

This happens to me with my Helix floor. I'm using a fairly long USB cord. I thought that was the issue with me. Do you have a long USB cord as well?

If you want it to sound like it does in the amp, I would have a separate amp and speaker cab and put it in between those two blocks using the FX loop but that would make it mono. For stereo you will have to use two of the effects RETURN's with two of the same cab on parallel paths after being split from the amp. Have a SEND after the amp, going out to the reverb unit's input BUT the stereo outputs of the reverb need to go into two separate effects RETURN's each RETURN block positioned before one of the two parallel cabs respectively. Does this make sense? The tutorial that I think you're referring to got about as close as you're going to get with the Helix. Is this the video you are referring to?

I dont know if any of you have seen this guy. He uses a POD HD looper and an original Variax. Just to show what can be done with a limited looper. All the "synth" sounds your hear in the second one were created with his rig.

Try this thread I think it will have the info you’re looking for. Or at least get you in the right direction.

Oh a stomp. I was refering to the floor Helix. Sorry, don't know how my suggestions may help..

Another way would be to create a parallel path. PU the amp on one and all of the effects on the other. You can then put the amp anywhere in the effects path using a split. Then pan the Amp path Left and the effects path Right. This does mean leavng most of the blocks on the dry/amp path unused but I'm going to guess there will be enough for your purposes. You could also use path1 for the dry signal, pan it all the way to the left and path 2 for the effects signal panned all the way to the right. That's just two ways.There are probably others. I'm not home right now.

You can put a loop anywhere as long as you have enough DSP left.

A more accurate statement is you won't HEAR the sound without all three of those things. It actually does make a sound, i.e. pushes air; there's just no one there to hear it. The sound itself is still there. It's like saying "since no one is there to see many of the water waves in the ocean, they don't exist." Yes they do. And the air waves of that tree exists, there's just no one there to "see" them.

That's been mentioned earlier in the thread.

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Sorry. I was refering to the actual pedal (Mimiq) not the Helix's Double take. I see the Mimiq wasn't being directly discussed. I still think it has to do with randomly changing a delay in mseconds although it may have some modulation thrown in has well. I've used it once and was actually impressed by it (The Helix's). Much better than what the Vetta amp had (I can't remember the name.)

I think Slop has to do with time randomization. Like if one player was playing more sloppy, his timing would be off more. And I think that parameter is now called tightness.

What he said.^^

Yeah, I remember the controversy, but I found it, still on a forum thread.

Maybe this will help Helix V3 Sticker A4 Print_rot.pdf Its meant to go above all of the connections so you can see them from the top of your Helix while you're standing. Print it out on some "sticky" paper. Hope it helps

I believe everything is done through HX Edit now. If it works through HX Edit you're good to go. If you want to register it, you can do that at the Line 6 website.

Wasn't familiar with the song. After listening to the song once, I would say you're in the ballpark but it sounds a little...flubby? Like too much distortion and maybe the low's could be brought down. Just my opinion.

So you are sending the top path out the Main L/R panned all of the way to the Right and the bottom path out the Send panned fully to the Left. Are you connected to the Main L/Mono and Main R Output jacks on the back of the unit? Because with this setup, only the Main R output has any audio comin from it. The other output is currently going out of your Send jack on the side of the unit. Not your Main Left output jack. You have NO audio coming out of your Main Left output jack. It's going to the Send jack which is a Stereo jack on the side, so in order to use it with it panned all the way to the right, you need a stereo/TRS cable that will split into two different mono cables. OR, you just need to change the bottom path's output the Main as well and pan it to all the way to the left. this will get you a signal out of both the Main L & R. which is what I think you want.

I would say you can't give up what you don't start, and no new Variax bass project was ever started at Line 6 to give up. It's just not going to happen. Not enough interest.

This is also absolutely true, but you definitely won't hear it in the field if you don't hear it in the studio. He said " I don’t hear much a difference but that is with studio monitors." and that was what I was speaking to.

I would say if you don't hear it in the studio, you won't hear it live.

Personally I would like Don't Force to reflect the settings on the Variax and not the previous setting's. But that's just me. I have a support ticket I turned in about this at the beginning of May. It's still open and I have received no response other than an initial "thanks for bringing this to our attention" message. I have had issues like this through all of the firmware updates although slightly different and inconsistent. This upgrade was the first one where it has behaved consistently. I wonder if your results are because of the earlier Variax firmware that your's has. Thank you for spending the time to check this out. Not sure if this would be an issue but I created these patches after the 2.90 update, not the 2.92. Although I have found the same behavior occurs in both versions for me. I did find the Volume reacted the same as you. I found that Don't Force for the tone knob reflects what the Variax is set at and Don't Force for the Volume reflects the position it was in for the last patch like you did. At least it proves I'm not totally crazy (a little, not totally). Thanks again.