Talenless Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 is it accurate enough for intonation adjustment? do you use a stand-alone tuner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Arkadin Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 For intonation I don't think it would be, neither would most stomp boxes. I use a Peterson StroboStomp2 for intonation checking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel_brown Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Same here. It doesn't seem accurate enough for me but ok for quick on-the-fly tuning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchguitarist Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 For me it is not accurate enough. I use a Korg DTR-1 rack mount tuner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arislaf Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Yes I do use it for everything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratman82 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Yes its a great feature. Accurate enough for my purposes, but I'm not recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 can't afford the petersen (accepting donations :) ) i tend to use the tuner in the pod or the m13/m5 of course i was losing my mind there for a while... the reference pitch got changed on the m13 i started to think that it was crazy inaccurate. easy enough fix though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I always find that in discussions about tuners the terms accuracy and precision are often misused. The tuner on the PODs is accurate, it's just not as precise as some more expensive tuners. What I mean is that if you played a tone - a high E, for example, the HD500 would accurately identify that note. And if you were off a little, it would tell you that, too. What it won't be able to as well is tell you when you're off by just a cent or two. That's a matter of precision, not accuracy. Accuracy has to with how good a device is a giving you a correct measurement. Precision has to do with how small the units of measurements if can do that in is. http://www.mathsisfun.com/accuracy-precision.html 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazzy Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I use the tuner and it works great. I see no real good reason to spend bookoo bucks on another tuner at the moment. It's always nice to strive for perfection, but many times less = more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigChas52 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Yes. It suits my needs for on stage quick tune-up. No problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneman2121 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 speaking of tuning, my guitar has been acting this way for a while now and i don't know how to fix it. when i tune to concert pitch. open chords and barre chords formed around the E string sound in tune but if i play chords formed around the A string, the B and hi E string are a half step sharp. new strings, intonation doesn't help. i have to tune in between to play, so it's close to sounding in tune. using a chorus helps a lot. answers? questions? warped neck? what the heck is going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyo78 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I use the tuner all the time, especially (and always) when I play live. I have it in "silent mode" when live (of course) and I can always rely on it when I hit those first few notes of a song in the middle of a set. :P I also use it for intonation but I've been playing over 20 years and also know what I'm doing when setting a guitars intonation. And sure a "Peterson" or "Strobo-matic" strobe tuner offers more precision... if you can afford one of those. And don't forget they need to be calibrated every so often too. But I've found that the center varies a bit in itself and you have to ensure you're centered with no tension on the neck and while not touching the bridge. To address "Guru"... yep it's possible that your neck needs adjustment via the truss rod. I'm sure there are YouTube videos on how to check your neck and adjust it if needed. The trick is to turn the truss rod a little at a time... that is an 1/8 to a 1/4 turn at a time... then let the guitar sit for a bit to let the neck catchup 100% to the torque just applied to it. Another possibility is that your guitar needs a fret job (replacment of the frets). I have a guitar that is 1/2 unplayable cuz it needs one. Typically many of us learn the blues/rock stuff that heavily favors the key of "A" in the 5 the fret neck area and the key of "E" which favors the 12th fret area of the neck. Bending strings and vibrato are the main culprits that wear down the frets. And fret jobs are not cheap... often costing $300 to $600 depending on the type of guitar. Take it to a registered luthier not some hack. A bound neck (ala Gibson Les Paul) is going to cost on the high end cuz the neck binding also needs to be redone. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjnette Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneman2121 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 To address "Guru"... yep it's possible that your neck needs adjustment via the truss rod. I'm sure there are YouTube videos on how to check your neck and adjust it if needed. The trick is to turn the truss rod a little at a time... that is an 1/8 to a 1/4 turn at a time... then let the guitar sit for a bit to let the neck catchup 100% to the torque just applied to it. Another possibility is that your guitar needs a fret job (replacment of the frets). I have a guitar that is 1/2 unplayable cuz it needs one. Typically many of us learn the blues/rock stuff that heavily favors the key of "A" in the 5 the fret neck area and the key of "E" which favors the 12th fret area of the neck. Bending strings and vibrato are the main culprits that wear down the frets. And fret jobs are not cheap... often costing $300 to $600 depending on the type of guitar. Take it to a registered luthier not some hack. A bound neck (ala Gibson Les Paul) is going to cost on the high end cuz the neck binding also needs to be redone thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceatl Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 The tuner threads always give me a chuckle....Especially the posts where folks claim the HD tuner is not precise enough...If that was really the case, then the person claiming that really does not need a tuner anyway...just get a fork and be done with it already... If you are tired of fighting the intonation imperfections that all electric guitars with conventional necks suffer from, get one of these crazy necks and put your tuning troubles to bed... http://www.truetemperament.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinoScholz Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I use it on my HD Pro, works fine. I use the shortboard tuner for quick tuning checks, and when i want more precision i just go over to my rack and use the actual POD HD Pro unit, which is very accurate and easy to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Arkadin Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 The tuner threads always give me a chuckle....Especially the posts where folks claim the HD tuner is not precise enough...If that was really the case, then the person claiming that really does not need a tuner anyway...just get a fork and be done with it already... If you are tired of fighting the intonation imperfections that all electric guitars with conventional necks suffer from, get one of these crazy necks and put your tuning troubles to bed... http://www.truetemperament.com I have Earvana nuts fitted, I'm just a bit of a tuning perfectionist. However once intonation is set up I am more than happy to use the HD's tuner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Me too - Earvana nut. I had my intonation set up professionally with the nut installation, and since then I use the HD500 tuner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceatl Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I just have normal human being nuts... :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojah63 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I haven't had any issues with the tuner live. I just got my guitars back with new nuts and are intonated fine, but my luthier didn't use my HD to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazzy Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I haven't had any issues with the tuner live. I just got my guitars back with new nuts and are intonated fine, but my luthier didn't use my HD to do it. Did you check your Luthier's work with the Line 6 tuner? Did it match up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Did you check your Luthier's work with the Line 6 tuner? Did it match up? I have done that. It matches up very well. I have since used the HD500 tuner to make minor adjustments to intonation, with good results. Probably not exact if you put a strobe on it, but close enough for me not to notice anything badly out of tune up and down the neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazzy Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I have done that. It matches up very well. I have since used the HD500 tuner to make minor adjustments to intonation, with good results. Probably not exact if you put a strobe on it, but close enough for me not to notice anything badly out of tune up and down the neck. Haven't taken any of my guitars to a Luthier and I make all the necessary adjustments myself. I just make sure that all of the notes ("all") are as close as possible using the HD500, X3Pro, and Spider Jam tuners. People around me say it sounds awesome and it sounds great to me. That's all I need to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinDorr Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Same here. Just went through a intonation re-adjustment after messing with my spring tension on a JTV-69. The HD500 tuner seemed perfectly adequate to do the job, at least as far as I could hear differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrat-Steve Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 It doesn't seems accurate enough for me, I rather use a mobile app, it's easy and accurate for what i need. But it's just my opinion. Try this: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cadenza-tuner-+-metronome/id482745751?mt=8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edstar1960 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I use the HD500 tuner all the time. And I have used it for intonation setting. It seems good enough. Recently though, I have had an issue where it confuses the A and the D string. I strike the open A and it flashes up D. I use it with a JTV59 and VDI. It doesn't do this all the time - but when it does it is very frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikoniablue Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Have had issues with the tuner only working with input one. I've stood on stage stamping on the HD500 not understanding why the tuner bar won't appear! When it's worked it seems fine for normal use. I use a stand alone cheap unit that shows individual cents on a numbered scale for setting intonation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicker_man Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I use the tuner on my HD Pro. I sold my Korg rack tuner and haven't noticed any adverse effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Have had issues with the tuner only working with input one. I've stood on stage stamping on the HD500 not understanding why the tuner bar won't appear! When it's worked it seems fine for normal use. I use a stand alone cheap unit that shows individual cents on a numbered scale for setting intonation. Hmmm...I have one patch on the 500x from which I cannot engage the tuner. Annoying as *&$%, as it's a rhythm tone I use a lot. Hold down the "tap" button, and the tuner screen appears, but registers nothing. Switch to another patch, and it works fine...wondering if there's something about the input settings that's gumming up the works. Gotta try that later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smrybacki Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I don't intonate often, but when I do, I prefer Peterson. Stay thirsty my friends.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_Watt Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I use my Peterson Tuner too for Intonation. More precise than the one in my HD500x. I also have the Peterson App for my Iphone. It's not quite as good as the real thing but it's close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 that app is well worth it. I use my Peterson Tuner too for Intonation. More precise than the one in my HD500x. I also have the Peterson App for my Iphone. It's not quite as good as the real thing but it's close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikoniablue Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Hmmm...I have one patch on the 500x from which I cannot engage the tuner. Annoying as *&$%, as it's a rhythm tone I use a lot. Hold down the "tap" button, and the tuner screen appears, but registers nothing. Switch to another patch, and it works fine...wondering if there's something about the input settings that's gumming up the works. Gotta try that later. Same problem I had. Check out the input allocation on that patch. Tuner only works on input 1 - so if you have, say, a Variax connected but "inputs" are specified as Input 1= Guitar, Input 2=Variax, then - even if only the Variax is actually connected it won't show up or register in the tuner. It's totally frustrating if you regularly use both a guitar and a Variax with the HD500. Crazy arrangement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim1953 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I don't use the tuner in the Pod - I tried it and it doesn't fine tune enough for me. I still use a strobe tuner - quicker and more accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjnette Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I have it or a el cheapo Korg tuner. True the scale is a little slight on HD but it is fine. I can do intonation with it or the Korg. A strobe tuner would be a luxury for me but they are the best,especially for setups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumblinman Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I use the tuner in my tc helicon harmony gxt since I need the guitar in tune with that for our shows. It's very accurate and precise enough. I have compared the two, actually, to see how close they were. They are almost exactly the same. I think I've seen the Pod read slightly flat on a couple occasions compared to the tc helicon pedal, but it's negligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 One hint, turn your tone knob all the way down. I've found that it helps the tuner "focus" so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyce89976 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Yep. Compared to my BOSS TU3 Chromatic Tuner, it seems just as accurate when using it to intonate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innovine Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I get more accurate results with a free vst called 'c tuner', but I use the one in the pod for convenience when I'm messing around. But if I'm going to record, or adjust intonation, its c tuner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innovine Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 One hint, turn your tone knob all the way down. I've found that it helps the tuner "focus" so to speak. Lightly damping/muting the other strings can also help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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