silverhead Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 THe HX Edit release description does not mention HX Stomp but it is supported as indicated during the installation process. Fixed As usual, start by backing up your current stuff using the current HX Edit. Then download and install the v2.70 HX Edit package. The run the new Line 6 Updater to update your Helix device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameskapherr Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Can only see 2.6 up on the download site :( EDIT - ignore me, shows ity here https://line6.com/software/index.html?hardware=Helix&name&os=All&submit_form=set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuRo1971 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 mmh, beside the marketplace stuff more less just only one new feature, for me a disappointing update 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAmartin Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Who dares asking the same ol`question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceatl Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 The notes are hilarious....How many of you are putting an X on your forehead? LOL! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glideman Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Dammit.... .this Sharpie won't come off....... "out damned spots...." :P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdanan0121 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 As long as the update actually does lengthen the lifespan of the current Helix Lineup then I am cool with the under the hood fixes, and the tuner being the only actual additions. I just hope the next update gives us some goodies. The marketplace idea seems cool, but I am not sure how much I would actually utilize it. Spikey, how much sharpie have you used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
line-6-user Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 I doubt if I would use the Marketplace feature... I would rather see MIDI INFORMATION displayed on the main screen. Handy when you build set lists and need to assign MIDI program changes for each preset/song. Still, I hope the tuner will do e better job than the previous one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
requietus666 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 how can an update (and it's free for chrissakes) be disappointing ? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akousticplyr Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 .... It's NOT a TUNAAAAAAHHHHH! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litesnsirens Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 the tuner is great. in all modes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamgoon Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 The strobe tuner is definitely a great update!!! Works beautifully!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 LOTS of fixes for the HX Effects unit. For those of us having mysterious unit freezes, there are two mentions of "freeze fixes" (hope thats the last of 'em): ◦ HX Effects only—Clearing or cutting a block on Path B from HX Edit could sometimes HX Effects to freeze when in stomp footswitch mode — FIXED ◦ HX Effects only—Switching from a preset with a Split > Crossover block to a preset with a Split > A/B block could sometimes cause HX Effects to freeze — FIXED 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dattrax Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 It might be my ears, but I use pitch shift for Eb tuning and it sounds better than 2.60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Quote Spikey, how much sharpie have you used? What the hell !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medbad5150 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I also own an AX8. Fractal DO updates too. GOOD ones..Actually many now do. Fanboys on Fractal kill me.....Please don't tell me you are satisfied. Yes it's free..and? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I kinda like the corse setting tuner, matches the one on the controller the best too. But best of all I like the options!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkinsi Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I really like the new tuner. No more erratic flapping around. The strobe is confusing to me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpel Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Love the new tuner. Thanx for fixing the Delay-Bug, that made me crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meiannatee Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Can't wait to test the TUNAAHH! Would have changed my name to >< if i had to, Prince-style. Thankfully Sharpies are hard to come by over here! The patch notes mentioned fixing the low end up to 20~Hz, but no mention of the high end, which was wonky on my unit. Hope it's fixed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 3 hours ago, wilkinsi said: I really like the new tuner. No more erratic flapping around. The strobe is confusing to me though. Yea the "strobe" blocks should narrow down as you get closer to being in tune. I'd rather have that then the arrows. But at least it's better than what we had by a M I L E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grom68 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Do I need to backup also the Factory Presets or just my presets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codamedia Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 If you are an HX Effects owner, this update is extremely important. IMO... I couldn't care less about new features until the bugs are corrected and this update seems to have delivered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 hours ago, grom68 said: Do I need to backup also the Factory Presets or just my presets? The situation with factory presets and Helix firmware updates can be confusing. Every firmware update potentially (not necessarily) includes new or modified factory presets. However, the firmware update process leaves all existing presets, including factory presets, unchanged. Hence, if the update goes smoothly you actually don't need to back anything up before updating - but it's a good precaution. So the normal update process leaves you without any new or modified factory presets that are present in the new firmware. If you want the new or modified factory presets you need to back up your non -factory setlists and IRs either before or after updating the firmware (they will be the same in either case). Then at some point after installing the update you need to perform a factory reset on the device, which installs the new factory presets and wipes out all non-factory presetfs and IRs. Then reload your saved custom setlists and IRs individually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigGT Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 16 hours ago, dattrax said: It might be my ears, but I use pitch shift for Eb tuning and it sounds better than 2.60. Maybe it's because you're in tune now :-) Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 hours ago, CraigGT said: Maybe it's because you're in tune now :-) Craig Graig says while he is still rubbing the Sharpie marks off his head... ; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbieb61 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 The tuner is finally...GREAT!!!! Used it last night at a gig here in Vegas and showed it off to several musicians (using the new Strobe tuner)...everybody was super impressed! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Notice my changed global settings were dropped on the HX Effects after update. Had to restore my base MIDI channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rappel353 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Does anyone know if there is a published list of which Factory Presets and Templates were changed, added, moved or removed in Update 2.70? It would really be time consuming to go through each one looking for changes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdanan0121 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I like the new strobe tuner. I have used a couple of strobe tuners that weren't as intuitive. This one is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Valium coding makes for less jitter too B ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestOpinion Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Oh hell yes to the new tuner versions! Just fantastic that a strobe tuner was added. Both the "Coarse" and "Strobe" modes are easier and faster to to use for stage tuning than the old tuner. I know it's probably too soon to comment but if I were going to improve them in the next firmware (other than adding a polyphonic mode) I would have the yellow not fade to green so far from the center tuning position. Better yet, don't fade to green at all, but instead just switch from yellow to green such that you had to be closer in tune before the bar went green. This applies to both the Coarse and Fine settings. Is that chartreuse or goldenrod yellow, mustard yellow or lime green? Oh, it's emerald green, I must be in tune. Might just be me but I prefer a distinct color switch to green when the guitar is in tune rather than gradually sliding from yellow to green. The color gradients moving between these two colors represent some slick programming but can be hard to differentiate on the fly or when you are playing outdoors and getting some sun on the screen. You do of course have the center position to go by so that observation might sound a bit nit-picky. I agree with Spikey's comments on the strobe, it is a bit different looking than others I have used and the graphics could probably be enhanced on it but at the end of the day - THEY ADDED A STROBE TUNER, JUST AWESOME! It seems to work very well. Always room for improvement but the new tuner versions are in now and super useful. I think the additional tuner options will prove themselves eminently stage-worthy for those of us who found it too jittery in the past. Overall this will rank as one of my favorite updates due to the improved tuner(s). Can't overstate how much I prefer this update to a couple of new amp models. Looking forward to the next major version firmware release. Bring on the funk! Great job Line6, this device just keeps getting better and better, thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verne-Bunsen Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/17/2018 at 1:22 PM, requietus666 said: how can an update (and it's free for chrissakes) be disappointing ? I don’t really know how that would work, although I’d be willing to bet that it would have more to do with the disappointed person’s expectations of the free update than with the actual content of said update. Personally I think the entertainment value of the release notes alone was worth the price of admission! It will be a couple of weeks before I can update, but I am looking forward to the tuner upgrade and options. Marketplace is probably not for me, but I expect it will be great for some and will doubtless be good for the platform in general. Thanks Line 6! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkinsi Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 12:54 PM, grom68 said: Do I need to backup also the Factory Presets or just my presets? No. Besides, use "create backup" in HX Edit to save EVERYTHING. Its a LOT quicker than exporting presets. Now, can we have 2.80? Because I'm a spoilt brat who wants more metal amps/cabs and eerie effects! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkinsi Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/17/2018 at 10:22 PM, requietus666 said: how can an update (and it's free for chrissakes) be disappointing ? Because we are spoilt brats, myself definitely included ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiFromBRC Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/17/2018 at 12:47 PM, spaceatl said: The notes are hilarious....How many of you are putting an X on your forehead? LOL! I couldn't stop laughing for a couple of minutes when I read that. And, props to the devs, the new tuners are a big improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Group Therapy Session for Helix Owners Who Bitched About the Tuner 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoAxe Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 The “Known Issues” section cracks me up. I’m glad to see that the developers have a sense on humor, rather than being a bunch of serious corporate stuffed shirts. I haven’t done the upgrade yet, but I have faith that the new tuner is an improvement. I’m guessing that our next excuse to draw an “X” on our forehead will be because we’ve bitched about needing a polyphonic drop-tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtualGuitars Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I would support paying for new amp models through the marketplace. That seems like an appropriate review stream / business model for Line 6 with free software updates. From someone in the IT industry, I think that's a good idea. Plus that would drive modeling development priority based on what we want as customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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