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Hi All Just in case there are any others out there who haven't updated firmware on a DT25 but suddenly have a need to.... I spent a couple of hours trying to update my DT25 firmware - third party edit app (DT Edit) could change the amp settings, and amp switches could change app screen, but Line6 Monkey refused to accept there was a DT25 connected. Searched everywhere and got all sorts of ideas that didn't work. Just when I was about to give up and raise a support ticket (more in hope than expectation), the ticket process offered another search, and first item was a line 6 post created just 20 hours ago - gave and updated .cfg file to try: For me, the monkey icon to click was on the left, not right. The provided .cfg file needs to replace the default.cfg file in the folder the instructions send you to. In my case I had no file to replace - just renamed the provided file to default.cfg, put it in the folder and a few minutes later, DT25 with updated firmware... Hope this helps someone...
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Hello, I didn't got replies from the DTedit author, so I post the link to the OSX version I've compiled today of his brilliant software. Some tweaking was necessary, so we must give a try and return some feedback. On my systems, win and mac, dtedit was not working. I've added a sysex identifying request after any Control Change message sent, and this works for me. I will try to compile the same code for Win32 very soon. Let me know! Flavio Ronco Torino, Italy. Download DTeditOSX.dmg file size: 22 MB ::UPDATE: I've updated the package, there was a wrong set of library files included. Please re-download it and give a try. -
I’ve owned DT50 head, DT25 Head and cab and a DT25 combo. I was using the Pod HD 500x, which I was never completely satisfied with. I traded and sold all of it off and for the last year or so I’ve been using the firehawk 1500. It’s not a bad set up but I find it lacking.... I ordered a Dt25 head and cab used and I am waiting on it to be delivered. I was thinking of getting a used helix or a helix lt until I saw the new HxX Effects. I’m thinking this could be a great fit. I loved the sound of the DT 25 on it’s, for some reason even reading guides and after tweaking for hours I never could get the sound I was after with a the pod hd500x It allways had Fiz or some other noise I would fixate on. I loved the cabling of the line 6 link. I’m thinking of the H effects in the effects loop and Midi cable to change the topology of the amp. The Helix would give me more options. For 1/2 the cost I could get the effects of the Helix, the midi control of the helix and the versatility and the tone of the DT 25. I am keeping the Firehawk 1500 so I could use the Helix on both... Any DT owners who run it with a Helix have any opinion on this? .
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Hi everyone I have a few questions about the helix and dt25 combo I couldn't find an answer to and I'd really appreciate your input: On the dt25 channels, there are can sims. When using l6link to helix on channel A, does the helix bypass the cab sims on the dt25? Also, if the dt25 can sims do actually work, why do full amp and cab models on the helix sound like an AM radio? Lastly, why does the midi functionality not work when L6 link is connected at the same time? No matter what I have to keep pulling out the link cable when I want to use midi which kind of makes no sense when the dt preset in the helix has midi out controls mapped and a preamp in the path? Thanks heaps for your time.
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I've noticed strange behavior from my DT25 that I've seen discussed in some previous threads but thought I'd start a fresh one. The short version is that, when switching between Low Volume Mode on and off, depending on which preamp model you're using some are actually LOUDER with LVM turned ON than they are when it's OFF, which is strange. I do not believe this to be a hardware issue/defect, as I have two DT25s (a head and a 1x12 combo) and they both do this. I first noticed this when I started using the DT in 4CM with my Helix. I'm using Snapshot mode and have some presets where I will change preamp models on the DT between Snapshots. The first gig I played I noticed that the levels between Snapshots on a few patches were not properly balanced at all. In the days following the gig I double-checked them at home and got everything set. Next gig, same thing. Checked them all again after the gig. Next gig - SAME THING. What I ultimately realized was that the ONLY difference between when I was playing/level-matching at home vs playing at a gig was that LVM was ON at home and OFF at the gig. Sure enough, I switch to one of the problem Presets/Snapshots, switch LVM OFF, and the volume went DOWN. In order to prevent further issues at future gigs I've pretty much decided to just leave LVM on all the time, since I play more at home than I do live and personally I think the amp sounds its best with LVM on and the Master around 2-3 o'clock anyway. From what I can tell it seems to primarily affect the lower-gain amp models. If I'm using the Treadplate model for example, switching LVM on and off results in the volume changing exactly as you'd expect. But if I'm using something like the Gibtone or the Tweed B-Man Normal, the amp gets quieter when LVM is turned OFF. Anyone else experience this?
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I had the strangest thing happening to me today. I went to my band rehearsal and after playing for about 30 minutes the display screen kept jumping from the signal chain to the knob display as if I was a adjust a knob on the HD500X. I'm connected to my DT25 via the L6 link and my JTV via the VDI cable. I had previously been using this set up with my HD500 for at least a year and had no issue. I even used this same setup and cords 3 weeks ago without issue. If I disconnect the L6 link it's fine (of course I have no sound though.) When I the screen changes it actually shows that he Mid has been turned all the way up. I can move it back and then when the screen flashes it has moved back to 99%. This happens across the board on the patches. I even swapped out cords and same thing. Now the venue makes me a a custom snake that has my power supply extened, 1/4" and L6 cable loomed to together as one cord. I'm 99% sure it's a regular XLR they used. But I've gotten by for 2 years with it and one show with the HD500X. I have an AES/EBU cable somewhere so I'm going to try that and hope it works. If anyone has had anything simlar and has fixed it with some sort of hard boot or firmware upgrade/reload please let me know. I have 3 gigs this weekend and I need to come up with a plan B if swapping the cord for AES/EBU doesn't solve it. I practiced all day today with just the HD hooked up to my PC so I definitely know it has something to do with the Link. And yes I tried numerous times of turning both the amp and pod off and on again. Thank you, Dave
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I just purchased a Helix Rack, arriving some time next week. My original guitar rig was a Line 6 DT25 and Pod HD500X. I still have the DT25, which has been taking up space in storage since I sold the HD 500 and bought an Orange Rocker 32 2x10 combo (stereo amp). I got the Helix as a replacement for my pedal board. But looking at pictures of the back of the unit, I am really wondering whether it isn't time to dust off the DT25. Here is my main question: is it possible to set up a stereo configuration on the Orange Rocker using a four-cable method, and then add the DT25 using the XLR cable? I am not especially technical, and of course I do not even have the Helix yet. Has anyone provided instructions on how to do this? Is it possible to change the preamps on the DT25 using the XLR cable (the way the Pod HD500 could) using the Helix? A few years ago, I heard you could not, but recently heard rumors that a Helix update now makes that possible. My ultimate goal is to set up the Orange Rocker and the DT25 to create a three speaker stereo wet/dry/wet effect. I have never done anything like this, and would describe my technical ability as slightly above beginner. Thanks for all your help in advance.
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HD500x + DT25 is the best of multi effects + modeling + Tube amp. What is the Line6 roadmap of these products ? Should we expect something new in the future ? Thank you
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Hi I have tried to update my DT25 to the ver 2 firmware. Before this the amp worked perfectly well. The update failed - Error 8000000A, which seems not uncommon judging by the forum and other places. The current firmware (as detailed on L6 Monkey) is now "This item is installed but its version cannot be determined". The amp now does not work. Can turn it on, and most of the lights are on, but cannot select channel A or B (light indicating B is lit), cannot select I, II, III or IV (none are lit), Pentode and Triode are both lit, Low Volume is lit regardless of where the switch is set and cannot select Class A/B or Class A (neither are lit). I have logged and updated a ticket with Line 6 but so far to no avail - the suggestions have made no difference (probably all detailed somewhere on this forum previously from what I've seen). The three day turn around is frustrating to say the least, with "fixes" that don't work. I have tried to update with both Mac using the M Audio Uno (purchased on L6 recommendation to sort this problem), and on good spec modern W10 PC using the same interface plus my L6 Pod 500X and my Steinberg UR242 interfaces. Have tried with the amp in normal and safe modes. As some on the forum have said they had the same problem, but some seem to have made it work after many attempts, I have tried MANY times so far. None of these things made any difference and I currently have a "brick " of an amp. Does anyone have any other suggestions please? Thank you :-) -
I've looked around, but I haven't seen any videos (or much of anything) where somebody directly compares a Helix w/ Powercab(s) against the HD series w/ DT Amps. I have seen the Helix direct compared to mic'd amps, but I'm really curious to hear the two "Dream Rigs" battle it out. Anybody else?
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Hi all, Bought my Helix floor a year ago and I love it. Been using it primarily together with Powercab and have been quite satisfied so far. But sometimes it feels like I’m missing that tube feel. I had an DT50 combo earlier that I sold but remembered how great it was so I got myself a DT25 head instead now. Now I’m trying to figure out how to get the Helix to work with the DT... I have connected the Helix to the DT via the L6 Link and got sound through the amp. So far, so good... But when shifting to different amp models, nothing happens in the DT? No changes in the topology whatsoever? And I can’t find any easy to understand description anywhere. I guess there are some settings that I haven’t figured out, so if someone in here can help me out I would be greatful!!!
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Zur deutschen Version. La version française. DT50/DT25 Terminology FAQ Headroom: how much signal “room” you have before encountering distortion, particularly saturation. If you have more headroom, the amp will feel like it responds to your playing subtleties better and you’ll have more dynamic range for expressive playing. With less headroom, you get into serious distortion without playing as hard. Topology: the layout of a “feedback topology” of the amp circuit referring to the voicing of the global negative feedback of the DT50. Changing circuits will change the voicing of the amplifier. Class A: an amp design where current is flowing through the tubes constantly. Headroom is deceased, so tone becomes distorted sooner. Class AB: an amp design where a pair of tubes work together by “trading” duties (one is conducting current while the other is in cutoff). Sometimes the term “push-pull” operation is used to describe this mode. Provides greater headroom and tone remains clearer as a result. Bias: the voltage value between the control grid (grid #1) and the cathode, which dictates the power tube’s behavior in terms of distortion cutoff/saturation. There are two types of biasing methods: fixed-bias and cathode-bias (sometimes called self-biasing or auto-biasing). The DT50 operates in fixed-bias when in Class AB. It switches to cathode-bias when in Class A. Pentode: the power output tube is a 5-electrode object (cathode, control grid, screen grid, suppressor grid and anode/plate). In the DT50, when you select “Pentode” mode, you’re operating the EL34’s as pentode tubes. Triode: a mode of operation where the power tube has 3 active elements (cathode, control grid and the anode/plate). Setting the front panel control switch of the DT50 to “Triode” alters the behavior of the EL34’s to act more like a triode, which reduces the power output and affects the high end as well. Negative Feedback Loop (NFL): a certain amount of the amplifier’s output is fed back into the amp to reduce distortion and increase headroom. A higher amount of NFL results in a tighter response overall, which some guitarists may be seeking in their tone. A lesser amount of NFL can make the amp feel more “wild” and “unruly”, which can be also desirable to many guitarists. It depends on what you’re after and the context of what you’re after, musically-speaking. Tonestack: the EQ-region inside of an amp where the Bass, Mid and Treble controls live. Sag: the response of the amp to what is being played on the electric guitar, usually heard at the beginning of playing a note or chord that follows a rest. Sag will cause the amp to get a bit quieter, while also causing more distortion. DT50/DT25 FAQ Headroom: Der Headroom beschreibt den maximalen Spielraum, den Sie haben bevor es im Verstärker zu Verzerrung und Ãœbersteuerung kommt. Mehr Headroom bedeutet, dass der Verstärker einen größeren dynamischen Bereich abdeckt auch während ausdrucksstarkem Spielen. Weniger Headroom wiederum bedeutet, dass es früher und öfter zu Verzerrungen kommen wird ohne hart zu spielen. Topology: Das Layout der Schaltung des Verstärkers. Die Änderung dieses Layouts wird den Klang des Verstärkers verändern. Class A: Bei diesem Layout fließt Strom kontinuierlich durch die Röhren. Headroom ist verringert und Verzerrungen treten früher auf. Class AB: Bei diesem Modell arbeiten beide Röhren zusammen. “žPush-Pull” wird hier oft im Englischen als Beschreibung verwendet. Das Resultat ist ein vergrößerter Headroom sowie klarerer Ton. Bias: Die Anzahl Volt zwischen Steuergitter und Katode. Bias steuert das Verhalten des Verstärkers. Es gibt zwei Methoden für Bias: Eine fixierte Ausrichtung (fixed bias) und die Katodenausrichtung (cathode bias) (auch automatische Ausrichtung genannt). Der DT50 ist im fixierte Ausrichtung Modus in Class AB und wechselt in den automatischen in Class A. Pentode: Die Röhre ist ein 5-Elektroden Objekt (Katode, Steuergitter, Bremsgitter, Schirmgitter und Anode). Im DT50 schalten die EL34 Röhren sich in den Pentode Modus wenn Sie “žPentode” auswählen. Triode: In diesem Modus hat die Röhre nur 3 akive Elemente (Katode, Steuergitter und Anode). Wenn Sie das Gerät auf “žTriode” eisntellen wird die EL34 mehr wie eine Triode verhalten. Sie erhalten weniger Output und die Höhen werden auch beeinflusst. Negative Feedback Loop (NFL): Ein Teil des Outputs eines Verstärkers wird wieder zurück in den Verstärker gespeist um Verzerrung zu vermindern und den Headroom auszudehnen. Mehr NFL bedeutet eine bessere Reaktion und weniger NFL resultiert in einem wilden und unbändigem Ton. Es kommt aber darauf an, was Sie persönlich mögen. Tonestack: Der Teil des EQs in dem sich die Eisntellungen für Bass, Mitten und Höhen befinden. Sag: Die Reaktion des Verstärkers auf das was Sie auf einer elektrischen Gitarre spielen. Sag kann man meist am Anfang einer Note oder eines Akkordes hören. Der Verstärker wird ein wenig leiser und verursacht mehr Verzerrung. DT50/DT25 FAQ Headroom: Si un ampli a beaucoup de Headroom, ca veut dire que cet ampli garde un son clair avant de rencontrer de la distorsion et une saturation sonore. Jouer l’ampli se sent comme vous avez beaucoup plus de gamme dynamique. Si vous jouez sur un ampli avec moins de headroom, vous obtenez des distorsions graves sans jouer aussi fort. Topology: La disposition du circuit dans l’ampli. Changer cette disposition change le son de l’ampli. Class A: Une topologie où le courant circule constamment à travers les lampes. Moins de headroom = distortion plus tot. Class AB: Deux tubes coopèrent. Plus de headroom = le son garde la clarté plus longtemps. Bias: La tension entre grille de commande et cathode. Le bias configure la saturation de la lampe. Il y en a deux modes de bias : bias fixé et bias à cathode. Le DT50 est en mode bias fixé en Class AB et change à bias à cathode en mode Class A. Pentode: Le tube de sortie est un objet avec 5 électrodes: Cathode, grille de commande, grill écran, grille d’arrêt et anode. Sur le DT50 si vous sélectez « Pentode » les tubes EL34 sont en mode penthode. Triode: Le tube de sortie a trois éléments: Cathode, grille de commande et anode. Si vous mettez le DT50 en mode Triode, les EL34 agirent plus comme des Triodes. Puissance de sortie réduite et Triode affecte les sons de haute. Negative Feedback Loop (NFL): Une certaine quantité de la sortie du ampli est réintroduit dans l’ampli pour réduire la distorsion et pour ajouter du headroom. Plus de NFL se traduit par une réponse meilleure et moins de NFL vous fournis on ton sauvage et incontrôlé. Le NFL dépends à vos préférences. Tonestack: La région de l’égaliseur dans l’ampli. Les contrôles Basse, Mi et Aigu s’habitent ici. Sag: La réponse de l'amplificateur à ce qui est joué sur la guitare électrique. Normalement, vous l’entendez au début de la note. Sag provoque de la distorsion. DT50/DT25 FAQ
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Version française. Deutsche version. DT25/DT50 FIRMWARE INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED: A MIDI interface that connects to your computer via USB (download the current Driver for it if you don't have it installed) 2 MIDI cables (or a MIDI interface such as the M-Audio Uno that comes with attached MIDI cables, note: this interface must have its own set of Midi drivers) NOTE: Line 6 recommends a name brand USB to MIDI interface produced by an audio company that supports/updates their drivers. Good choices include: M-Audio, Edirol, E-Mu and MOTU. These interfaces have proven to be more robust and reliable when it comes to large MIDI transfers such as the DT25 and DT50 update. Latest version of Line 6 Monkey installed. Download and install the Line 6 Monkey software here. Procedure Connect your MIDI interface to your computer via USB cable. Connect the DT25/DT50 MIDI Out to your MIDI interface In, and connect the DT25/DT50 MIDI In to your MIDI interface Out. NOTE: when using the M-Audio UNO, the cable labeled "To Midi In" connects to the port labeled "Midi In" on your device. The same goes for the Midi Out cable and port. Launch the Line 6 Monkey with the DT25/DT50 connected via the MIDI interface and powered on. Select the Flash Memory line item and click the Update Selection button to install the flash memory update into the DT25/DT50. The device will receive the firmware data and the unit will be updated to the latest Firmware. ***If the firmware update fails and you are having trouble reconnecting to Line 6 Monkey, please try putting the unit into SAFE MODE before starting up and connecting to the Line 6 Monkey software. To do this, hold the channel select switch down to 'Channel B' and power on the DT amplifier while holding this switch down. Let go of the switch after 10 seconds or so, then re-start Line 6 Monkey and follow the steps above to update/re-install the flash memory. Instructions d’installation du firmware DT 25 et DT 50 Vous avez besoin de : Une interface MIDI qui connecte à votre PC via USB (téléchargez le pilote le plus récent pour cette interface) 2 câbles MIDI (ou une interface MIDI comme le M-Audio Uno avec des câbles attachés.) Attention une interface USB à MIDI de marque d’un fabriquant audio connu comme M-Audio, Edirol, E-Mu ou MOTU est recommandé. Ces interfaces sont plus robustes et fiables pour les transfers larges comme des mises à jour. Installez la version la plus récente de Line 6 Monkey. Téléchargez le ici : http://fr.line6.com/software/ Procédure : Connectez votre interface MIDI à votre câble USB. Connectez la sortie MIDI du D25/D50 à l’entrée de votre interface MIDI et connectez l’entrée MIDI du DT25/DT50 à la sortie MIDI de l’interface MIDI. Lancez Line 6 Monkey avec le DT25/DT50 connecté et allumez le. Cliquez Flash Memory et Update Selection pour installer la mise à jour sur le DT25/DT50. La mise à jour est maintenant effectuée. Si vous avez des problèmes avec la mise à jour ou avec la reconnexion de l’appareil au Line 6 Monkey, essayez le SAFE MODE avant vous l’allumez et connectez au logiciel Line 6 Monkey. Maintenez Channel Select sur la position Channel B et allumez l’ampli DT en maintenant ce commutateur. Lâchez le commutateur après 10 secondes et redémarrez Line 6 Monkey. Essayez de faire la mise à jour encore une fois. Anleitung zur DT25/DT50 Firmware Installation: Benötigt: Eine MIDI Schnittstelle, welche Sie an Ihren PC anschließen können. (laden Sie sich bitte den neusten Treiber für das Gerät herunter. Achtung, Line 6 empfiehlt eine MIDI Schnittstelle eines Marken-Audio Herstellers, da diese regelmäßig Treiberupdates bekommen. Marken wie M-Audio Uno, Edirol, E-Mu und MOTU. Diese Schnittstellen haben erwiesen, dass sie robuster und zuverlässig sind bei großen MIDI Dantentransferen wie die DT25 un DT50 Aktualisierungen. Die neueste Version der Line 6 Workbench. Herunterladen können Sie Monkey hier. Verfahren: Verbinden Sie die MIDI Schnittstelle über USB mit Ihrem Computer. Verbinden Sie den MIDI Ausgang des DT25 oder DT50 mit dem Eingang der MIDI Schnittstelle und den MIDI Ausgang der Schnittstelle mit dem Eingang des DT25/DT50. Starten Sie Line 6 Monkey während das DT25/DR50 vie MIDI an Ihren Computer angeschlossen ist. Wählen Sie Flash Memory dann Update Selection um das Update zu installieren. Das Gerät wird nun die erforderlichen Informationen laden und sich selbst aktualisieren. Achtung, sollte die Aktualisierung fehlschlagen und Sie müssen Line 6 Monkey wieder neu verbinden, dann solten Sie versuchen das DT25/DT50 im Safe Mode zu starten. Bevor Sie es nun wieder starten, halten Sie den Channel Select und starten Sie Line 6 Monkey. Starten Sie das Gerät neu während der Knopf in Richtung Channel B gedrückt ist Lassen Sie dann den Knopf nach ca. 10 Sekunden wieder los und starten Sie Line 6 Monkey. Folgen Sie dann nocheinmal die Anleitung zur Firmware-Installation
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I am a relatively new POD HD500 user, just bought a used one a few weeks ago. I use it through L6Link (XLR cables) w/ my Line6 DT25 112 combo. Yesterday during testing w/ my band, something strange happened. In general I use 2 banks of presets within the user setlist#1 - 1A through 2D. Depending on the songs we played yesterday I switched between presets in the 2nd bank (2A to 2D) of this setlist which contain AC15 pre, AC30pre, BF Double pre, and BF 'Lux pre, all in combination w/ some FX's. All of a sudden I noticed that preset 2B no longer contained the AC30pre but had been overwritten by a preset called 'Middle Pups' (which sounds funny in German, BTW) w/o me having changed or saved anything! Looking at the list of presets, I saw, that 'Middle Pups' usually is on 2B of the setlist L6LINK<->DT. So, it obviously was copied from 2B of one setlist to 2B of another setlist w/o any user action. Any idea how something like this can happen? Has anyone made a similar experience? Regards from Germany Wilfried
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I currently own a DT25 combo and a Pod HD500X which I have connected via the Line6 Link cable. I am thinking of recording some music but the Dt25 is way too loud for my bedroom therefore I cannot mic it in high volume. Of course, if I do not crank it up, I would not get the sound I would want. The LVM is not enough for quality sound since it eliminates the power amp section of the amp. I was thinking of investing on an audio interface like the UX2 to record my music. My plan is to connect my amp to the audio interface through the Direct Out of the amp. If I follow this approach, I could disconnect the amp's connection with its cabinet so I wouldn't get any sound from the amp itself but I would get my sound from the monitors connected to the UX2. So if I have the amp's master volume amp cranked all the way up, I could adjust the volume from on my UX2 according to how I want but my recordings should sound as if it's coming from a cranked tube amp. Essentially, I would like to get the sound of a cranked tube amp sound in my recordings without disturbing my neighbors. Do you think this is a viable approach? -
I have owned my DT25 for a few years now, and it has only seen light rehearsal use and the odd gig here and there. I haven't used my DT25 in a few months due to the lockdown and no rehearsals allowed. I went to try it out on Friday. I switched the power on, with the standby OFF, and noticed that it had a louder mains hum than I remembered, I let it warm up for a minute or so, then flipped the standby switch on, immediately the mains hum increased in volume almost as if someone was rolling the volume up to maximum, ten there was a slight whistle and crackle, followed by a pop or phut, and then no sound. This happened in a few seconds. All the lights were still on, the topology lights swapped when I moved the switches but no sound whatsoever. Switching it off and on made no difference. Just lights but no sound. I tested using both guitar directly in and HELIX LT via L6 LINK. No sound. I checked the fuse that is mounted on the back of the chassis and it looks intact BUT there looks like there are black marks on part of it and a tiny black burn mark dot on the glass. I think its blown. I suspect that some part has failed and the fuse has blown protecting the amp, so I don't think simply replacing the fuse is a good idea. I think it needs to go in to an authorized repair centre to be checked out and very likely repaired. Just wanted to check on here if anyone else has had a similar problem and if so, what it turned out to be? And could it be repaired? Thanks.
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Zur deutschen Version. La version française. Please read through the DT50/DT25 Terminology FAQ first, to familiarize yourself with the terms that will be referenced here. Application Q: Are there any presets on the DT50/DT25 amplifier in the manner of previous Line 6 amps? A: No. The DT50/DT25 behaves like a traditional amp where the user simply dials in a tone to the WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) functionality. Q: Are the DT50/DT25 amplifiers Mono(phonic)? A: As with most tube amplifiers, yes. Q: Which type of amp modeling is using with the DT50/DT25? A: Line 6's newest HD amp models (same as our new POD HD). Q: How does the power amp tubes contribute to the DT50/DT25's sound? A: The EL34's (DT50) or EL84's (DT25) are the main source of distortion in the amp. The guitar signal is actually being amplified at every progressive stage in the circuit, but the power tubes are the first to truly "clip" and provide the distortion that most tube amp devotees desire. Q: How does the modeling of the DT50/DT25 contribute to the overall tone? A: In the DT50/DT25's "normal mode", the modeling performs the function of the preamp: mating the digital preamp with the analog power amp so the whole system creates the sound of the amp modeled. This is different than our previous Spider Valve amps, where we modelled the entire amp model (pre-amp and power amp) and then fed that signal through the output tube power section. In "low power mode" (pulling the master volume switch out on the DT50 or on the DT25 flipping the switch on the back panel), the digital modeling section will assume duties for the power amp section and the Master Volume has been scaled so that you can have the sound of a driven power amp at lower monitoring volume levels. If you turn the master volume knob all the way up in this mode, you will have Spider Valve-like tones behavior (where the pre and power amp software modeling signal is pushing the EL34 or EL84 tubes). In both Normal and Low Power modes, cabinet modeling is applied to the output signal fed to the power tubes. When using a POD HD device connected via L6 Link, you must use the default cabinet model that is recalled on the POD HD 'pre' amp model when using the L6 Link connection with the DT amp to get the same type of sound as using the DT amplifier by itself with the same amp model. Lastly, when using Low Volume Mode on the DT amp with a POD HD connected via L6 Link, the sound of a 'Pre' amp model selected on the POD preset will sound slightly different if an identical amp model is selected on the DT amplifier (on Channel B ). This is because when using the Low Volume Mode on the DT amp with L6 Link, Channel A on the DT amp with the POD modeling is still using the just the PRE amp model with the scaled Master Volume knob, whereas Channel B on the DT amp uses the preamp AND power amp modeling with the scaled Master Volume. The inclusion of the power modeling is what makes it sound differently. Q: What is the difference between the DT25 and the DT50 amplifier? A: The DT25 operates at 25 watts maximum output using two (2) EL84 power tubes vs. the EL34's found in our DT50's. Otherwise, it is essentially the same as its big-brother, the DT50. For more info, please check the new product page for the DT25 here. DT50/DT25 Voicings Switch I Negative Feedback Loop (NFL) setting is high; channel control behavior much like that of a West Coast American amp of the 1960s. Recommended settings: Class AB & Pentode. II NFL is medium; channel control behavior much like that of a classic British amp of the 1960s known for it's "glassy" yet warm tones. Recommended settings: Class AB & Pentode. III Zero Negative Feedback Loop operation (a very open/dynamic feeling amp); channel control behavior much like that of a 'chime-like tone' British amp of the 1960s. Recommended settings: Class A & Pentode (clean) or switch to Triode (for rounder, more vintage feel). IV NFL is low in value, with an added low frequency resonance ideally suited for modern high-gain voicing; channel control behavior much like that of a more recent West Coast American amp of the 1990s. Recommended settings: Class AB & Pentode. Class A & Class AB Switch Class A: Cathode biased. Provides the player with more dynamic with touch sensitivity. DT50 operates at 25 watts. DT25 operates at 10 watts. Class AB: Fixed biased. Provides greater headroom and power than Class A. DT50 operates at 50 watts. DT25 operates at 25 watts. Pentode & Triode Switch Pentode: Clearer tone and more headroom. Triode: Rounder tone, less output and more vintage feel. L6 Link L6 LINK is a proprietary Digital Audio connection developed for exclusive connection between the POD HD series modeling processors and the DT50/DT25 amplifier(s). Do NOT connect any other sort of analog audio device that appears to have a standard 3-pin (XLR) connector to the L6 LINK, as damage will occur. Connect a digital XLR cable (AES/EBU cable) from the POD HD L6 LINK jack directly to the DT amp's L6 LINK IN jack. Most XLR cables should provide sufficient performance, but use a digital XLR (AES/EBU) cable for best performance and signal to noise ratio. When linking two DT amps, all controls including master volume work independently on both amps. The only thing that syncs is the channel switch, i.e. switching the channel on amp A switches it on amp B as well. Specifications DT50 Specifications DT25 Specifications Q: Is there a chart for the amp models of the DT series amps and the POD HD series? A: Yes, there is a .pdf document with this information here. *Please note, most of the amp models on the DT series are only accessible via MIDI. Please reference the following document for information on accessing these models: Using MIDI to Change Amp Settings on the DT50/DT25 Amplifiers Q: What speakers are used the DT50/DT25 amps? A: DT50/DT25 112 Combo has the Celestion custom G12H90 12" speaker. DT50 212 Combo has a Celestion custom G12H90 12" and a Celestion Vintage 30 12" speaker. Q: What tubes ship in the DT50/DT25 amps? A: DT50: Electro-Harmonix 12AX7 preamps tubes (2) and Electro-Harmonix EL34 power tubes (2). DT25: Chinese-branded 12AX7 preamp tube (1) and Electro-Harmonix EL84 power tubes (2). Q: What is the Bias Spec on the DT50's EL34 power tubes? A: 36 mV +/- 1 mV. Q: What is the Bias Spec on the DT25's EL84 power tubes? A: 22 mV +/- 3 mV. Q: What Line 6 controllers work with the DT50/DT25? A: Any of the POD HD series units. They utilize the new proprietary L6 Link (3-pin) digital connection to control amp topology settings in Channel A to whatever parameters are set in the active POD HD patch. There is a jack labelled for "Footswitch" on the back of the amp to allow for switching between Channel A and B. Please use a "tip-sleeve" (mono 1/4") latching-type footswitch to use this feature. Setup/Connection Q: Is there a headphone output on the DT50/DT25 series? A: No. Q: Is there a bias switch to change the power tubes to 6L6's or other tube types? A: No, the DT50/DT25 series do not offer bias-switchable options and were designed to operate with the EL34 (DT50) or EL84 (DT25) power output tubes. Q: Can I run my DT50/DT25 without a speaker load? A: No! You should always run a tube amplifier with a speaker load present. Please follow the properly load connection requirements as silkscreened on the back of the amplifier chassis. Q: Will installing casters on a DT50/DT25 112 or 212 combo chassis void my warranty? A: No, correctly installed casters will not void the warranty. However, if you are not 100% sure on how to correctly install casters, please take your amp to a qualified amp/service technician and have them install the hardware. We do NOT cover damage caused to the amplifier from an incorrect installation! *** Here is a link to one of our Forum Members (MDinice) who was kind enough to share a template for Ernie Ball type casters: http://line6.com/community/thread/57744?tstart=0 (the template is also available at the bottom of this document). Known-Issues 12AX7 Preamp Tube Swapping: If you decide to swap out different 12AX7 preamp tubes, do NOT use anything labeled 'LP' (Long Plate) for the first preamp tube stage (labeled as V3), as 'LP' labeled tubes are extremely microphonic. Q: How do I control the v2.0 update features of the DT25/DT50 amplifier using MIDI? A: We have created a document to help with sending MIDI to your DT amplifier to control the various additional features of the v2.0 update. Please see the following document for these instructions: Using MIDI to Change Amp Settings on the DT50/DT25 Amplifiers Also, here is a link with information on troubleshooting tube amplifiers: Troubleshooting Your Tube Amp Bitte lesen Sie sich zuerst DT50/DT25 Terminology FAQ durch um sich mit den Begriffen bekannt zu machen, die im folgenden Dokument Verwendung finden. Gibt es Presets auf dem DT25/DT50, so wie auf anderen Line 6 Verstärkern? Nein, die DT25/DT50 Verstärker verhalten sich genau wie traditionelle Verstärker. Sind die DT25/DT50 Verstärker Mono? Ja, so wie die meisten Röhrenverstärker. Welche Art Verstärkermodelierung wird bei den DT25/DT50 angewandt? Wir verwenden sie neusten Line 6 HD Verstärkermodelle. (wie im POD HD) Wie tragen die Röhren zum Sound der DT25/DT50 bei? Die EL34 (DT50) und EL84 (DT25) sind die Hauptquelle für die Verzerrung des Verstärkers. Das Signal wird nach und nach im Verstärker verstärkt, aber die Röhren haben hier den größten Einfluss. Sie liefern den ersehnten Verzerrungston, den die meisten Röhrenverstärker haben. Wie trägt das Modelling der DT25/DT50 zum Sound bei? Im „Normal“ Modus übernimmt das Modelling die Funktion des Vorverstärkers. Es führt die digitale Vorverstärkung mit der analogen Endstufe zusammen um den modellierten Sound zu erreichen. Bei unseren alten Spider Verstärkern, im Gegensatz, haben wir den gesamten Verstärker modelliert und dieses Signal durch die Röhren geschickt. Im „Low“ Modus übernimmt das digitale Modelling die Arbeit der Endstufe und der Master Volume Knopf ist so skaliert, dass Sie den Ton einer aufgedrehten Endstufe auch bei niedrigen Abhörlautstärken erreichen. Wenn Sie den Master Volume Knopf hinten gegen drehen erhalten Sie einen Sound der ähnlich klingt wie die Spider Valve Verstärker. In beiden Modi wird das Cab Modelling in den Ausgang gespeist, direkt in die Röhren. Wenn Sie ein POD HD Gerät verwenden, welches via L6 Link verbunden ist, müssen Sie das standard Cab Modell benutzen, welches auf dem POD HD Vorverstärker Modell ist wenn Sie es mit L6 Link an den DT Verstärker anschließen. So erhalten sie den gleichen Ton, den Sie erhalten würden, wenn Sie den DT Verstärker allein mit diesem Modell verwenden würden. Außerdem wird der Ton im „Low“ Modus auf dem DT, wenn dieser per L6 Link an einen POD HD angeschlossen ist und Sie ein Vorverstärkermodell auswählen auf dem POD, etwas unterschiedlich klingen als wenn Sie das Modell sofort auf dem DT auf Kanal A auswählen. Das kommt daher, dass wenn Sie den „Low“ Modus auf dem DT mit L6 Link verwenden der Kanal A auf dem DT mit POD Modelling immer noch nur das Voverstärker Modell mit skaliertem Master Volume verwendet während Kanal B auf dem DT Voverstärker UND Endstufe modelliert. Was ist der Unterschied zwischen DT25 und DT50? Der DT25 hat maximal 25 Watt mit seinen zwei EL84 im Gegensatz zu den EL34 im DT50 mit maximal 50 Watt. DT 50 und DT 25 Stimmungen: I – Negative Feedback Loop (NFL) eingestellt auf High. Die Kanalkontrolle verhält sich wie bei einem West Coast American Verstärker aus den 60er Jahren. Empfohlene Eisntellungen: Class AB & Pentode. II – NFL ist auf Medium eingestellt. Die Kanalkontrolle verhält sich wie ein klassischer britischer Verstärker der 60er Jahre. Empfohlene Eisntellungen: Class AB & Pentode. III – Zero Negative Feedback führt zu einem sehr dynamischen und offenen Verstärkersound. Die Kanalkontrolle wirkt wie bei einem britischen Verstärker der 60er Jahre. Empfohlene Einstellungen: Class A & Pentode oder Triode. IV – NFL auf niedriger Einstellung: Zusätzliche Tieffrequenzresonanz für den modernen High-Gain. Die Kanalkontrolle wirkt wie bei einem neueren West Coast American Verstärker der 90er Jahre. Empfohlene Einstellungen: Class AB & Pentode. Class A & Class AB Schalter: Class A: Gittervorspannung (Cathode Bias). Dynamischerer und empfindlicher. DT 50 läuft hier mit 25 Watt und DT 25 mit 10. Class AB: Fixed Bias: Mehr Headroom als in Class A. (DT50 läuft auf 50 Watt und DT25 auf 25). Pentode & Triode Schalter: Pentode: Klarerer Ton und mehr Headroom. Triode: Runderer Ton mit weniger Ausgangssignalstärke und Vintage Gefühl. L6 Link: L6 Link ist eine Digitale Audio Verbindung von Line 6. Entwickelt exklusiv für den Verbindungsaufbau zwischen POD HD und DT25 sowie DT50 Verstärkern. Verbinden Sie KEIN anderes Gerät mit XLR Anschluss mit L6 Link. Dies kann Schäden hervorrufen. Stecken Sie ein XLR Kabel (AES/EBU) in den POD HD L6 LINK Ausgang und das andere Ende in den Jack Eingang des DT Verstärkers. Die meisten XLR Kabel sollten ausreichend Performance liefern. Sie können aber auch ein digitales XLR Kabel verwenden um die beste Performance zu erreichen. Spezifikationen: DT50 Specifications DT25 Specifications Gibt es seine List der Verstärkermodelle für die Verstärker der DT Serie? Ja. Es gibt ein pdf Dokument hier. Achtung, die meisten Vorverstärkermodelle für die DT Serie können nur via MIDI erreicht werden. Nutzen Sie dazu folgendes Dokument: Using MIDI to Change Amp Settings on the DT50/DT25 Amplifiers Welche Lautsprecher warden im Verstärker verwendet? Im DT50 und DT25 112 Combo sind Celestion Custom G12H90 12“ Lautsprecher installiert. Die DT50 212 Combo hat auch einen 12“ Celestion Custom und zusätzlich einen Celestion Vintage 30 12“. Welche Röhren Sind in den Verstärkern eingebaut? DT50: Electro-Harmonix 12AX7 Voverstärker Röhren. (2 Stück) Sowie Electro-Harmonix EL34 Röhren. (2 Stück) DT25: Eine 12AX7 Voverstärker Röhre aus chinesicher Herstellung sowie zwei Sovtek EL84 Röhren. Was ist die Voreinstellung der DT50 EL34 Röhren? 36mV +/- 1mV. Was ist die Voreinstellung der DT25 EL84 Röhren? 22mV +/- 3,V Welche Line 6 Steuerungen funktionieren mit den DT25 und DT50? Alle POD HD Geräte. Diese Geräte verwenden die neue, digitale L6 Link Verbindung um Kanal A auf die Einstellungen im derzeitigen POD HD Patch zu setzen. Auf der Rückseite ist ein „Footswitch“ Jack, um zwischen Kanal A und B zu wechseln. Wenn Sie dieses Feature verwenden wollen, schließen Sie bitte einen TS Mono (1/4“) Fußschalter hier an. Gibt es einen Kopfhörerausgang am DT25/DT50? Nein. Gibt es einen Vorspannungsschalter um die Röhren auf 6L6 oder andere Röhrenarten aumzuschalten? Nein, die DT25/DT50 Verstärker sind für den EL34/EL84 Gebrauch entworfen. Kann ich die DT25/DT50 ohne Lautsprecherlast verwenden? Nein! Sie sollten Röhrenverstärker niemals ohne angeschlossenen Lautsprecher verwenden. Bitte folgen Sie den Belastungsvorschriften auf der Rückseite des Gerätes. Erlischt meine Garantie, wenn ich Rollen an meine DT50/DT25 112 oder 212 Combo installiere? Nein, bei korrekt installierten Rollen bleibt die Garantie bestehen. Sollten Sie jedoch nicht 100% sicher sein wie Sie die Rollen installieren sollen, sollten Sie die Installation von einem qualifizierten Techniker durchführen lassen. Line 6 deckt keine Schäden, die durch falsche Installation von Rollen entstehen. Eines unserer Forenmitglieder MDinice hat netterweise eine Vorlage hochgeladen für die Installation von Ernie Ball Rollen: http://line6.com/support/thread/57744?tstart=0 Bekannte Probleme: Austausch der 12AX7 Vorverstärker Röhren: Verwenden Sie keine Long Plate „LP“ Röhren, da diese extrem mikrofonisch sind. Wie kann ich die neuen Funktionen des 2.0 Updates auf dem DT25/DT50 Verstärker per MIDI kontrollieren? Wir haben ein Dokument erstellt um Ihnen dabei zu helfen: Using MIDI to Change Amp Settings on the DT50/DT25 Amplifiers Und hier noch ein Link mit Informationen zur Fehlerbehebung bei Röhrenverstärkern: Troubleshooting Your Tube Amp Avant de lire ce document familiarisez-vous avec les termes utilisés: DT50/DT25 Terminology FAQ Est-ce qu’il y en a des presets sur les amplis DT25 et DT50 comme pour les autres amplis Line6 ? Non. Le DT25/DT50 se comporte comme un ampli traditionnel. Est-ce que les amplis DT25/DT50 sont monophoniques ? Oui, comme la plupart des amplis a lampes. Quelle modélisation d’ampli est-ce que le DT25/DT50 utilise ? Las modélisation HD la plus nouvelle de Line 6. (Comme notre nouveau POD HD) Comment est-ce que les lampes contribuent au ton de l’ampli ? Les EL34 (DT50) et EL84 (DT25) sont la source primaire pour la distorsion de l’ampli. Le signal de la guitare est amplifié à chaque étape progressive dans le circuit mais les lampes sont les premiers de distordre que la plupart des fidèles d'amplis à tubes désirent. Comment est-ce que la modélisation du DT25/DT50 contribue au ton de l’ampli ? En mode normal du DT25/DT50, la modélisation fonctionne comme le préampli. Il connecte le préampli digital avec l’ampli de puissance analogue pour créer le son d’ampli désiré. C’est différent de nos amplis Spider Valve. Pour ces amplis, nous avons modélisé tout le ampli (préampli et ampli de puissance) et dérivent ce signal à la sortie de l’ampli de puissance à lampes. En mode « low power », la modélisation digitale assumera les fonctions de l’ampli de puissance et le bouton Master Volume est modifié : Un son qui ressemble un ampli de puissance avec une haute entrée qui peut être écouté avec un volume faible du moniteur. Si vous tournez le bouton Master Volume au maximum, vous recevez des tons Spider Valve (le logiciel de modélisation du ampli et préampli utilise les lampes EL34 et EL84). En modes « Low Power » et « Normal » la modélisation est appliquée au signal de sortie envoyé à l’ampli de puissance à lampes. Si vous utilisés un POD HD connecté avec L6 Link vous devez utiliser le modèle de baffle par défaut de du modèle préampli sur le POD HD si vous utilisez une connexion L6 Link avec l’ampli DT pour recevoir le même son si vous utilisez l’ampli DT par lui-même. Finalement, l’ampli a un mode « Low Volume » s’il est connecté à un POD HD via câble L6 Link. Le ton d’un modèle préampli sélecté sur le preset POD sonnera légèrement différente si un modèle identique est sélecté sur l’ampli DT sur canal A parce que en mode Low Volume, canal A sur le DT utilise seulement le modèle préampli avec le bouton Master Volume modifié et canal B sur le DT utilise la modélisation préampli ET ampli de puissance avec le bouton Master Volume modifié. L’inclusion de la modélisation du ampli de puissance est la différence ici. Quelle est la différence entre le DT25 et le DT50 ? Le DT25 a 25 watt maximum et 2 lampes EL84 et le DT50 e 50 watts maximum avec des lampes EL34. Trouvez le DT25 ICI et le DT50 ICI. DT50/DT25 Voicings Switch : I – La configuration de la boucle de rétroaction négative est sur HIGH. Le contrôle du canal fonctionne un peut comme un ampli West Coast American des années 1960. Configurations recommandés : Class AB et Pentode. II - La configuration de la boucle de rétroaction négative est sur MEDIUM. Le contrôle du canal fonctionne comme un ampli anglais classique des années 1960. Configurations recommandés : Class AB et Pentode. III – Aucune boucle de rétroaction négative. Un ampli dynamique Configurations recommandés : Class A Pentode ou Triode IV - La configuration de la boucle de rétroaction négative est sur LOW avec une résonance de fréquence basse pour les tons modernes à haut gain. Le contrôle canal fonctionne comme un des plus nouveaux amplis West Coast American des années 90. Configurations recommandés : Class AB et Pentode. Class A & Class AB Switch: Class A: Cathode bias. Fournit le joueur avec plus de dynamique et de la sensibilité de toucher. Le DT50 fonctionne à 25 watts et le DT25 à 10 watts. Class AB : Fixed biased. Fournit plus d’hauteur de niveau maximum de l’entrée et plus de puissance que Class A. Le DT50 fonctionne à 50 watts et le DT25 à 25 watts. Pentode & Triode Switch : Pentode : Du son clair et beaucoup d’hauteur de niveau d’entrée. Triode : Son ronde avec une sensation vintage. Moins de niveau. L6 Link L6 Link est une connexion Digital Audio propriétaire de Line 6 développé pour une connexion exclusive des produits de Line 6 avec Line 6 Link. Ne connectez pas un autre appareil analogue avec un connecteur XLR standard au Line 6 Link. Dommage se produira. Connectez un câble XLR digital (AES/EBU) du POD HD jack L6 LINK directement dans le L6 LINK IN de l’ampli DT. La plupart des câbles XLR offrent des performances suffisantes mais vous pouvez utiliser un câble XLR digital pour une performance meilleure. Spécifications : Spécifications du DT50 Spécifications du DT25 Est-ce qu’il y en a une table pour les modèles des amplis DT et des POD HD ? Oui, Il y en a un document pdf. ICI. Attention, une plupart des modèles sont uniquement accessibles via MIDI. Consultez ce document pour plus d’informations sur l’accès de ces modèles: Using MIDI to Change Amp Settings on the DT50/DT25 Amplifiers Quels haut-parleurs est-ce que vous utilisez avec les amplis DT25/DT50? Nous installons des Celestion Custom G12H90 12’’ dans la DT50/DT25 112 Combo et Un Celestion Custom G12H90 12’’ avec un Celestion Vintage 12’’ dans la combo DT50 212. Quels tubes est-ce que vous utilisez ? DT50 : Deux tubes Electro-Harmonix 12AX7 préampli et deux tubes Electro-Harmonix de puissances EL34. DT25 : Un tube 12AX7 préampli chinois et deux tubes de puissances Sovtel EL84. Quel est la polarisation sur les EL34 dans le DT50 ? 36mV +/- 1mV Quel est la polarisation sur les EL84 dans le DT25 ? 22mV +/- 3mV Quels contrôleurs Line 6 fonctionnent avec le DT50/DT25 ? Tous les appareils POD HD. Ils utilisent la nouvelle connexion digitale L6 Link pour contrôler les configurations an canal A. Il y en a un jack « Footswitch » à l’arrière de l’ampli pour changer entre canal A et B. Utilisez un commutateur au pied contact 2 points (mono 1/4") de type verrouillage. Est-ce qu’il y en a une sortie casque sur les DT25/DT50 ? Non. Est-ce qu’il y en a un commutateur pour changer les tubes en 6L6 ou autres types ? Non les DT25/DT50 n’ont pas une fonction pour changer le type du tube. Le DT25/DT50 a été conçu pour les tubes EL34 et EL84. Est-ce que je peux utiliser l’ampli sans impédance sur la sortie (c'est-à -dire un haut-parleur) ? Non! Vous devriez toujours utiliser un amplificateur à tube avec un haut-parleur présent. Suivez les instructions de raccordement indiqué sur l'arrière du châssis de l'amplificateur. Seront l’installation de roulettes sur mon DT50/DT25 annuler ma garantie? Non, roulettes correctement installés ne seront pas annuler la garantie. Mais si vous n'êtes pas certain à 100% de comment installer les roulettes correctement, prenez votre ampli à un technicien ampli / service qualifié pour faire installer le matériel. Nous ne couvrons pas les dommages causés à l'amplificateur à cause d’un montage incorrect! MDinice, un membre de notre forum a eu la gentillesse de partager un modèle de roulettes de type Ernie Ball : http://line6.com/support/thread/57744?tstart=0 Problèmes connus : Si vous voulez échanger les 12AX7 tubes du préampli, n’utilisez pas les tubes LP (Long Plate) pour la première partie du préampli (V3). Les tubes LP sont très microphoniques. Comment est-ce que je peux contrôler nouveaux fonctions de la mise à jour V2.0 de l’ampli DT25 et DT50 via MIDI ? Nous avons crées un document pour vous aider avec la communication MIDI avec l’ampli DT pour contrôler les fonctions de la mise à jour 2.0 : Using MIDI to Change Amp Settings on the DT50/DT25 Amplifiers Informations sur le dépannage des amplis à tubes: Troubleshooting Your Tube Amp
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helix DT amps won't respond to Helix floorboard (Midi/L6 link)
exquosum posted a topic in DT50 / DT25
Hi! I'm sending this message regarding the Variax setup of a friend. First he bought a Line 6 Variax JTV 69S (sunburst strat) and played it through his HD500 pod into a 2x12 clean amp. But he read, heard and saw so many good things about the new Variax equipment that he decided to give it a spin. Over the last year he picked up a DT25 (1x12 combo) and a DT50 (2x12 combo). About a month ago he completed the setup with buying the main processor, the Helix Floorboard. Everything seems to be working fine. We followed the manual while setting up and it's all registrered in his Line 6 account. It's up and running in Monkey 6, line 6 updater and the Helix firmware is updated to the latest version. But we can't get the amplifiers to work from the floorboard. The 69S is connected to the floorboard through Variax Digital Interface cable. Then we hooked up the L6 line from the board to DT25 and then DT50. No result. Then we added the Midi cables (brand Roland black series) from Floorboard out/thru -> DT25 in & DT25 thru -> floorboard in. Just to see if it would work on 1 amp. No result. Plus when changing the pentode/triode switch on the amp it started to make loud burning, crackling, buzzing noises. (I think that was caused by the connection of the L6 AND midi.) We disconnected the L6 link. Also without result. Tried the same with the DT50. After not getting any result we tried to update the amplifier's firmware through midi, but it didn't get recognized. This guide: Everytime we get the same 'undefined error'. Midi device is the Helix Floorboard of course. We have absolutely no idea how to fix this and get the amps to respond to Helix floorboard adjustments. Already tried A/B'ing some settings in the floorboard menu. Hopefully somebody has any idea what can be wrong and how this can be solved. With kind regards! J. -
I want a volume pedal in the FX loop of my DT25. After hours of reading articles I think I will need the low impedance version of Boss FV-500(L). Am I right and where can I find information about the impedance of the FX loop of the DT25. I find the information in the Pilot's Guide pretty cumbersome. Even on the support pages I cannot find the answer to my question. I hope someone can give me some more information about this set-up. I just want to use the volume pedal to behave as a master volume.
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This is probably coincidence, but have had 2 issues lately that seem potentially related to using helix with the DT25. First, my helix lost all output shortly after connecting to DT25 (which was sounding great BTW). Luckily have the extended warrantee on helix and that was repaired and has seemed fine for a month or so now. Have since tried the DT25 on 2 gigs and was fine. today was trying some new settings on helix (in particular playing with the DT25 Class A, class A/B and pentode/triode options, which are a great feature) ... was playing a bit after making adjsutments and then there was a volume drop and I heard a little 'static' then the amp died.. no power light, no sound. Speaker protection fuse was fine. Questions: 1. I have seen some threads indicating that tubes could cause problem... if it's just tubes, would power still not even come on? Should I just try new tubes first? 2. I'm assuming that if I take in for service, could be $300 roughly, which isn't awful, but wondering if anyone has compared the sound and feel of the DT25 with the Powercab? 3. Is there any reason to think that the powercabs might play more nicely with helix than DT25? any reason to think powercabs would be any more reliable than DT25? Any assistance would be much appreciated. Thank you!
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Hi there, I've been looking through a few topics here, but found nothing tha could help me out with my actual problems. My Setup: - DT25 Head - DT50 412 Cabinet - POD HD300 I've never had any problems since I purchased the stuff about 5 years ago, but now I noticed something that confuses me: While I was playing, I heard some quiet "pop" sounds without switching amp modes or something. I would descripe the sound like a chicken ("bugg" "bugg" "bugg"), time intervall between the sound is close to a second, maybe a bit shorter. Then I took a look at the knobs of my DT25 Head and saw, that the voicing switch was doing his own thing. After a few tests, I recognised a pattern, which is as mentioned below: Voicing Switch is I, then it pops over to II, then again to I Voicing Switch is II, stays at II Voicing Switch is III, pops over to II, then again to III Voicing Switch is IV, pops over to II, then again to IV So I think maybe there is a problem with the Voicing switch, but it could also be an electrinical part. Does anyone of you had made the same experiences or could help me out with that problem? Many thanks in advance :-) Sven
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Directed at those in the know, obviously, but with the upcoming L6 Link integration with PowerCab+ and the DT25/50, I'm curious as to whether we'll be able to mix the two? i.e. DT25 gets left signal, PowerCab+ gets right signal? I suspect the answer is probably yes considering that I believe something similar was possible back in the HD500/DT/StageSource era, but a definitive answer would be awesome.
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Hi guys, so happy to see Line 6 has finally given us an integration solution for our DT amps and the Helix platform. I've been a DT user since 2014 with the original Dream Rig, HD-500, DT-25HD, and JTV-69 and I love this amp. When Helix came out I jumped on it immediately. I posted many threads about how the DT could be used with the Helix using midi and the problems that could be encountered along the way. The new integration isn't perfect by any means but it is an 'elegant' solution. I've created a DT Series of Amps User Group on Facebook as a place we can gather to share our experiences and tips and tricks. I don't mean to take away from this great forum but if you are like me and spend a lot of time on FB, I invite you to visit and join if you wish. I've already documented how I've integrated the DT with my Helix and some of the common misconceptions about how it all works. I would love to see what you guys can share over there too as we all learn and grow with the incredible tools we have been given. Cheers! Line 6 DT Series of Amps User Group PS. - all members of the Line 6 Helix Family User Group OFFICIAL and ORIGINAL are preapproved for membership.
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Hello evereyone, I was just confrontaded with a really weird issue with the DT25 Unit. Everytime i left my amp on the rehearsal room for as long as a week disconected from the power due to fire prevention, i found the amp with a really bad issue whem i try to start it again: all the lights from the switches turns on buts no sound comes out of the amp, just a quite noise. On the first time i reeinstalled without trouble the flash-unit and it helped. The second time the amp wasn´t recognized trought the Midi interface. Curiosly it started on his own after beeing setted on standby about an hour along without doing nothing with it. I noticed this because it did a typical clipping sound and after that just a few lights were on and it was ready to be played. It is well known not to let the power on inside rehearsal rooms when you left it. So my question is why is this happening in the first place. Is there a hidden battery which needs to be loaded on regular periods of times, and it is possible to replace this battery? Thanks up front for any hints and answers!
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Hi. Hoping someone may be able to guide me. I've been using HD500X for a few years (with DT25). Recently I decided to start using JTV over VDI. I had a couple of issues at 2 gigs in a row this weekend. 1: When I powered the unit up for the start of our set at Gig 1 it appeared normal, and then within a few minutes of starting up, twice in quick succession it appeared to go back to the "Line 6" logo start up screen and I momentarily lost signal. This was not the first time I'd gigged with the VDI, but was the 1st time I'd gigged with additional patches where the POD was controlling the tuning. it was strange and made me very nervous for the the duration of the gig, but ultimately the POD performed as normal thereafter. 2: Before the 2nd Gig I plugged the POD into Monkey to see if any updates might be required. Only some drivers needed updating - Flash was all up to date. So I saved my setlist, did the update and then reloaded my setlist onto the POD and headed to the gig. Things started well, but during the 1st set something weird happened: I stepped on preset 1B halfway through the set, only to find that the POD had copied preset 1A onto 1B. I now had 2 identical patches and had lost my original preset 1B which I had been using just fine in the previous song. Fortunately, I had taken my laptop with me to the gig "just in case" of any issues, so after the 1st set I reloaded a set list from a few gigs earlier (where the POD was not controlling the tuning - as this was the only real change I'd made before I started getting issues) and made some changes to the main patches I was using in order to try to reduce the DSP being used, just in case this was causing any of the issues. Never had this happen before and thought it was strange and worried me. Can anyone please help me: 1: Explain what may have caused this? 2: Anyone definitely had this exact thing happen to them before? 3: I'm thinking some sort of Reflash/Factory Reset would be sensible - has this been shown to be the solution to these symptoms? Everything I've seen re: DSP suggests that the system will flag issues when creating the patch rather than let me create and use something that won't work properly. Seems strange that if DSP is the reason, it would let me use it fine for half the gig and then make random unwelcome changes on my behalf... trying to figure out if my unit has developed a fault, or if this set up will simply be unreliable and I may need to either give up on the Dream Rig set up, or think about going to Helix (which although I'd love, does not yet have DT25 integration, and I struggle to justify the outlay given the limited number of sounds I actually need/use, and the POD - in theory - pretty much does all that I need). Any help welcome!! Many thanks in advance!
